I haven't played the game but I heard that it turns out that your character has been brainwashed in the MKULTRA program and you can choose to turn on the CIA and defect to the Soviet Union
lol as soon as i heard you could side with the soviets i figured it'd end with you nuking the world because the ussr isn't allowed to be shown as anything other than absurd, over the top villains
Let's not forget the other Soviet soldier who prevented a nuclear war, absolute chad Vice Admiral Vasily Arkhipov , who kept his cool during the Cuban missile crisis.
There had been no contact from Moscow for a number of days and, although the submarine's crew had earlier been picking up U.S. civilian radio broadcasts, once B-59 began attempting to hide from its U.S. Navy pursuers, it was too deep to monitor any radio traffic. Those on board did not know whether war had broken out or not.[6][7] The captain of the submarine, Valentin Grigorievitch Savitsky, decided that a war might already have started and wanted to launch a nuclear torpedo.[8]
Imagine being in that situation. Cut off from the world for days during a massive diplomatic and military crisis, sitting on a nuclear torpedo, with Americans dropping depth charges on your boat and your crew being convinced that the imperialists in their disregard for human life have started WW III.
The US also wanted to nuke Vietnam....and Korea....and China.
Good guys btw.
Does Kissenger say that, or is there some more objective evidence of that story?
And Iran and several other places.
Just what the US did to the Marshall Islands is a crime against humanity.
The Marshall Islands are for sure crimes again humanity. Even the way they forced US soldiers to get irritated is bad. Just all around ghoul shit. And the problem isn't going away. It is still relevant today.
What's the matter, smoothskin, you've never seen democracy in action before?
I live in a community that is seeing a large influx of climate refugees both in the form of Marshallese and Ecuadorian immigrants.
Petrov later indicated that the influences on his decision included that he had been told a US strike would be all-out, so five missiles seemed an illogical start;[1] that the launch detection system was new and, in his view, not yet wholly trustworthy; that the message passed through 30 layers of verification too quickly;[11] and that ground radar failed to pick up corroborative evidence, even after minutes of delay.[12] However, in a 2013 interview, Petrov said at the time he was never sure that the alarm was erroneous. He felt that his civilian training helped him make the right decision. He said that his colleagues were all professional soldiers with purely military training and, following instructions, would have reported a missile launch if they had been on his shift
Just a sensible person.
We make jokes about Xi sending the nukes, but they would only do that in retaliation.
China is actually the only nuclear power besides India that has disavowed a first strike option.
Well, the centerpiece of the plot is that the US has secretly placed neutron bombs in every major population center in Europe, because they’d rather kill everyone than let them fall to communism.
Not sure if that’s portrayed as good or bad tho
but they are America’s nukes. Lol no shit this is a quote about defending putting neutron bombs in every European capital secretly
Ours are for defense not offense! Can’t you tell the difference?
Before 1960 or so fairly easy. After that they started putting radiation detectors at ports and airports.
That said, it wouldn't have been that much harder than offloading drugs at a rural cove somewhere. Just have your rich american sleeper agents go on a sailing tour and come back with a souvenir.
The USSR had internal borders so it would have been harder.
I got into a Twitter fight with a lib just the other day who was ADAMANT that Castro wanted to nuke the US. I asked for a source and they just said "uh, look up the Cuban Missile Crisis, idiot"
These people will twist reality to fit their preconceived notions. You could say "of Cuba staining nukes on their territory meant they wanted to nuke America then the US putting nukes in Turkey meant we wanted to nuke the USSR" and they'd probably just say "yes".
You need to watch Queens Gambit. Really refreshing cold war stuff where the American players learn from the Soviet collectivist style and the soviet players are shown to be honorable dudes
i am a fan of chess and caught the last few episodes. i liked it and was pleasantly surprised by the portrayal esp considering netflix's past portrayals of the USSR
It's even more surprising considering kasparov was a consultant
Yeah I was really concerned it would go reaaaally bad after the Mexico City episode. And, well, it wasn't great in terms of portrayal but not bad either. The Russians started off pretty scary looking, then they became really cool and... The ending, well, it is definitely something that I haven't seen before in an American production.
Plot wise it would have made more sense to just leak the proj. Greenlight intel to the European countries to sway them over. Guess they really couldn't help themselves. I also think its funny that people are refering to the canon ending as the 'good ending'. You literally get used, brainwashed and killed by the cia.
Trying to go for the chud money and the online communist money, the grift never stops.
Actually, this is probably a good sign. The previous Black Ops set in the cold war had you play as the same all-American, VC-and-Russian-massacring CIA guy, who thwarts the evil communists at the end of a linear campaign with no choices.
This time, the company with DoD funding and pretty anticommunist views has apparently decided that Socialists are now a market share large enough to pander to.
:pog-dolphin: no underwater levels though, are they even trying? :pseudorca:
They want people to engage with the propaganda and to weaken criticism that that's what it is. At the same time they don't just want to send you a message telling you "America good, commies bad," they want to present a decision in such a way that you (well, the average person) would choose America. And including MKULTRA stuff, like, the message you're supposed to think isn't, "the CIA does no wrong," it's, "the CIA does the bad stuff that's necessary to protect us from evil commies." I haven't engaged with the content at all but from what I'm gathering the defection choice involves nuking the world out of personal spite and revenge, while the America choice is the one where you decide to be the bigger person and do the right thing for the world.
Bad take, software designers are not the people writing the story and the people who do have bosses, and said bosses want certain things. Not to mention they receive military funding and ads etc.
Hilariously enough I went on youtube to watch the end cutscene and the top videos are labeled “bad ending” and “good ending.” Guess which one is which
:lenin-shining:
Holy shit!
Critical support for the Absolute madlads at Activision who got DOD funding to make this.
we should make a thread all about games where you can play as socialist states
Red Alert 2 is pretty based since there's a whole Soviet campaign. If I remember correctly, you get to blow up the Statue of Liberty and Pentagon.
Reagan: “You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell!"
God, I just love the corniness of the RA cutscenes. Tim Curry in RA3 is pure gold lol
There is also a Mod for Red alert 2 named Mental omega, that remakes the game ad the story and divides the soviet union in 3 factions (Russia, China and Latin america) its good
"Death To Spies" has you play as a Soviet operative assassinating Nazis and MI6/CIA agents.
There's also the "Phantom Doctrine" turn-based strategy RPG where you can play as a KGB agent putting together an international squad to infiltrate all kinds of facilities in search of a rogue group within the Soviet military and intelligence forces. You get to off cappie and crime syndicate ghouls along the way.
Black Ops has always had a sliiiiiight edge of subversion in it. The soldier characters are always flimsy pawns in the CIA machine and there's always been an undercurrent of dread about what their deaths are really for. Glad to see they're putting some real meat on those bones in this one
Is that Michael Parenti?
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Fuck I might have to buy it now
I know it’s wrong, it’s still supporting the capitalistic system and all but...FUCK I WANNA TURN ON THE CIA AND REAGAN REALLY BAD
I just checked, it is not cracked right now but if I'm not mistaken all CoDs eventually do, it's brand new so give it a couple weeks.
CoD MW 2019 is online only and never got cracked, probably gonna be the same for cold war.
I dont know if COD has been. I dont follow COD anymore so I dont even pirate the games, but if it hasnt yet cant imagine it'll take more than a month
The trailer to this is some of the most anticommunist paranoia shit that have come after the Cold War ended lol
you'd think since the series is 20 years old maybe at some point they'd think "hey maybe people are gonna notice that we're not making any efforts"
but no
Also Infinity Ward is a much better studio than Treyarch and it shows.
Modern Warfare > Black Ops, as every gulag-worth gamer knows
