• emizeko [they/them]
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    oh yeah that's way more dignified than doing a home invasion on a health insurance CEO. thank you for being a good boi sir

    • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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      i will never understand how there isnt a constant stream of people finding out theyve got X months left to live, because the medical care that would save their life is prohibitively expensive, objecting to the situation with [parody and satire] at corporate offices [in minecraft]

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        Because most people don't want to kill people?

        Fuck you don't either. You just think you do behind that keyboard ye got there m8

        • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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          no, i dont.

          the fact is that there are innumerable people for whom this disgusting corporate insurance death profiteering is a reality of their murder-through-neglect.

          some portion of whom have killed other people.

          the fact that none of them are inclined to take out retributive justice on the people murdering them, but that there are school shootings every fucking week, is shocking.

          edit: tldr pull your head out of your ass

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          Sure - but it only takes one person who would kill who realizes they legitimately have nothing left to live for, and the people in those board rooms are why, to make a headline about it.

          Makes me wonder how much health care companies spend on security guards and keeping the media quiet, honestly.

          • RalphGrenader [comrade/them]
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            As a person who may have worked for the devil in the past, security normally is surprisingly light. But you would have to know the systems, look the part to sneak inside, and get away with a lot of variables. Plus, as the guy above said, you'd had to be willing to pull the trigger.

            I'm more surprised a Sandyhook parent didn't go postal on a gun producer ceo. Cancer sucks, but its slowly happening to you. Less hot blood. Sandyhook otoh...

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            Ok do it then fam. Livestream it and make it the left's answer to christchurch and I'd legit spread the video around like it was a porno starring Priyanka Chopra

            But ye wont

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              Nobody here is saying "I'm gonna do it!" they're saying it's shocking that it hasn't been done

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                Ok and I told em why and a pack of keyboard warriors were like "n-Nuh uh KILL EM! :le-pol-face: "

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                  https://www.k5learning.com/reading-comprehension-worksheets/topics/conclusions-inferences hth

            • OgdenTO [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              This is exactly what I imagine a spook instigator would say.

        • evilgiraffemonkey [he/him]
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          Every year a fuckton of random people get shot to death on purpose, but very few CEOs of companies that kill. All I'm saying is that if someone has to get shot....

            • evilgiraffemonkey [he/him]
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              Well, since I don't do the former type of mass shooting, I'm not really inclined to do the latter type, personally

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                    "Hey you're about to die, do you wanna spend your last days on earth with your friends getting as much blood out of the stone as possible or do you wanna do a suicide mission against some faceless cunts that will just get replaces by more faceless cunts"

                    Real big brain hours here. In this moment I am enlightened

                    • evilgiraffemonkey [he/him]
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                      K

                      The blood and stone thing honestly doesn't sound that appealing either, whatever that means

                        • QuillQuote [they/them]
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                          "to make someone give or tell you something, when it is extremely difficult because of the character or mood of the person or organization you are dealing with: Persuading Chris to buy a round of drinks is like getting blood from a stone."

                          I wanna spend painful annoying time with people I hate talking to as much as I can in my final moments, for sure

          • InnuendOwO [she/her]
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            Isn't this functionally the same as just saying "nobody's gonna go to a school and shoot random kids", though?

            Like, yeah, no normal person would. That doesn't mean it can't happen, and, y'know, it clearly has. Yeah, if only a handful of people per year were told "you've got 12 months left to live unless you cough up a million bucks for treatment", I'd agree - but at the rates the US sees? At some point, someone who's broken enough to consider actually doing it is gonna get that news.

            I wouldn't expect it to be a common occurrance, obviously, but the fact it hasn't happened even once is kinda weird.

          • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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            A guy dying of cancer has the choice to either spend time with his loved ones in relative peace or blow all his savings on guns and body armor to get his ass shot off by a bunch of armed mall cops at Pfizer HQ.

            See, this is a real answer, not that other clown's "well why don't you do it then????" nonsense.

          • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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            other mass shootings occur.

            the point here is not "lol all sick people should grab guns and spend their last days going out in a hail of bullets!"

            its that of all the countless shootings that occur, for many varied reasons, it is genuinely surprising that none of them target the executives that are responsible for killing people.

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                feel like youre imagining this as some sort of "only cowards who dont have good reasons will take violent action!" thing which is patently false.

                :william-van-spronsen: :john-brown:

                whether or not it would be successful isnt relevant. there hasnt been an attempt by anyone, leftwing rightwing centrist disillusioned-cia whatever, to take out anyone behind preventable medical death.

                over the course of decades, with millions of bodies, with nearly every person in amerikkka has been affected by this is some way, that is surprising

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                    [im not saying its cowards with bad reasoning! its] frustrated weirdos who think that murder will make them feel powerful!

                    do you see how this is a frustrating conversation?

                    it feels like both you and the other person have dug your feet in on some weird nitpicking point about "murder bad!" and refuse to look at this from anything but a "sick old granny cant use machinegun!" viewpoint

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                        no you clearly do not understand my point.

                        i never said everyone should automagically become walter white, i said its fucking weird that not one person, of the millions upon millions of people whose lives have been destroyed by the medical industry, has gone after those ceos.

                        "most people dont want to kill" no shit. but none have done so, even when many many veterans have been adversly effected. not one of those trigger happy cops has gone off the deep end against pfizer for medical-neglecting their mom into an early grave. nothing.

                        fuck but im beyond done with this conversation, its like your purposely ignoring the point you claim to be getting

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                            and yet there have been many mass murders based around trying to "fix" the existence of other religions, minorities, etc.

                            do you think the christchurch shooter thought he could individually murder all the mosques away?

                            there have been shootings trying to "fix" anything and everything, near fucking none of which could ever be fixed by a person shooting up a school, bar, club, or other gathering of people.

                            arguing that the "logic" of it doesng make sense is absurd

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                                significantly more likely

                                right okay. and of all the people that dont do that, how many have had the capability and inclination to seek retribution against the people causing their death?

                                why is it apparently zero, despite the fact that so many people who have the capability and inclination to kill other people are affected?

                                do you think no one has had the means motive and opportunity to cross off a major company exec or twelve over the past forty years? because apparently no one has tried.

                                these are all rhetorical

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                                    i dont want you to say anything.

                                    my entire point was "its fucking weird that no one tries to axe these ghouls, when they are being slowly murdered over months, especially given how trigger happy people in the states seem to be" and you came at me with "well ackhtually people dont like killing each other!"

                                    if you feel like your point is fucking stupid and irrelevant, im not going to disagree with you there.

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                                        yes and then when your reasons get pointed out as not actually lessening the weirdness, you... keep arguing how its not weird?

                                        unlike the other person who absolutely was being a malicious shit, i dont think thats the case with you. which is why i havent posted pigpoopballs or something.

                                        idk its whatever

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            Because this site has a lot of 16 year olds and those who have the mind of a 16 year old thinkg that they are chad warriors of socialism ready to kill and die for thie beliefs when in reality they are chinless geeks talking shit behind a keyboard in between gaming sessions

            • emizeko [they/them]
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              :bruh:

              There were 434 mass shootings in 2019 that fit the inclusion criteria of this article. This averaged 1.19 mass shootings per day. In these shootings, 1,643 people were injured and 517 died, for a total of 2,160 victims.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_United_States_in_2019

  • 420sixtynine [any,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    Could you, in theory take out a bunch of credit cards, cut off your family, buy expensive things leave it to them in the will for them to sell without dropping the debt on them?

      • 420sixtynine [any,comrade/them]
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        If you did it sufficiently before you die though and without a paper trail…

        I should really try and figure this out just in case I do get seriously sick

    • shitstorm [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Your family cannot inherit your stuff if you have outstanding debt. All debts have to be paid out of the inheritance or you can forfeit it.

      • 420sixtynine [any,comrade/them]
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        Ok I think I'm starting to get it, you can't actually leave it to them in a will but what about burying gold? If you do it with no paper trail would that work?

        • shitstorm [he/him]
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          Potentially? I am not a lawyer, but I imagine it could go either way. The IRS might decide to investigate why your family got a sudden jump in income.

          • 420sixtynine [any,comrade/them]
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            4 years ago

            Where do they go if no one is there to pay them? Let's say you cut off all your family, legally and everything, and buried gold purchased with credit cards

            • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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              I thought they aren't on the hook if thy don't cosign. You wouldn't need to cut them off for them not to be involved in a contract between you and the company. They wouldn't need to show up to work if you died and the only reason you show up is a contract.

            • Vegan69 [comrade/them]
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              4 years ago

              Literally your family. Doesn't matter if you "cut them off" or whatever

  • ultraviolet [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    People will keep defending this because "communism will be worse" fucking hell.

    • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      "gommunism is when no pizza hut" -mikhail gorbachev

      imagine advocating for a system in which you cant even support yourself with a job at pizza hut while youre dying of cancer. just awful

      :stirner-shocked:

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    4 years ago

    I just saw a post a day or two ago someone shared about a fundraiser for a guy I didnt really know but who went to the same highschool as me who died recently to cover the medical debts and funeral costs for him. I remember thinking "he fucking died why are they having to pay for the medical care". Like it just feels sick.