I think this is very possible.

He will enter office with the highest unemployment and worst economy numbers since the great depression. Topple on the eviction crisis that begins January 1st and the pandemic that is still raging on, vaccine or not.

Worth remembering that Dems only won the presidency. All summer we heard about a "blue landslide" and how it was going to be a complete Dem blowout retaking Congress. They squandered the Senate and even lost seats in the House. All they won was the presidency, setting up a picture very similar to Obama's second term. The Dems really are not in good shape as liberals are arrogantly and smugly bragging. They just won the presidency by pushing the most right wing conservative candidate they had in the primary, and Biden only really won due to the pandemic. Take the pandemic out the picture, I have no doubt Trump would've won again.

They won't win Georgia. They'll fuck that up and are already on a quest to do it by blaming all their failures on 'Defund the police' and progressives in general.

Biden is a bit of a game changer to the Dem elite. He completely lacks the charisma and personality of Obama who was very good at selling people on BS and charming as hell. He's also good at shooting himself in the foot by running his mouth. Take the tweets over how "government isn't supposed to help you, people don't want a handout" or the recent leaked audio of him talking down to black activists. This man just can't help himself cause he has no filter whatsoever. We'll likely end up in multiple scandals of him saying more WTF racist stuff about black people and Latinos. I won't be shocked if he drops the N word and it forces him to step down and then Kamala finally gets to complete her power dream.

Biden has publicly said he don't want to govern through using executive orders like Obama and Trump. He wants to work with Republicans who are investigating him over Hunter and will be gunning for something to impeach him. The Republicans know they'll be able to bully this senile old ghoul to get what they want. I don't expect us to have any entitlements left by 2024 since he'll come for social security and medicaid in the name of bipartisanship.

Despite all the unemployment, homeless and further inequality through the class war, Biden and his cabinet have made it clear that they are going to push mass austerity. It will get ugly and probably come with him running his mouth bragging about it. He's already made some WTF comments after the checks were taken out of the stimulus package and now the COVID-19 relief bill just looks like another massive bail out for corporate interests.

We know very well that nothing is going to change in terms of immigration policy with ICE or the brutal use of the state to repress protesters. The mainstream media will just stop reporting on it and will normalize all of it cause when a Democrat president does those things, it's all OK.

I think it's possible through Biden being unable to fix anything, that the Dems could very well alienate many of the people that voted for them. They've already managed to alienate a lot of people with how they attack progressive policy. They have a new politically correct term for talking down to the poor, in "non college educated" as the party is shifting to be more about rich white people in the suburbs. Give it a few years of them talking down to the poor and protesters some more; blaming them for wanting to defund the police and begging for M4A, and this could blow up in their faces.

The only thing the Democratic party has to offer anymore is empty platitudes and identity politics. And this is where Biden is a game changer cause he don't even pay lip service to either of them. I'm sure the media will try to make Kamala "cool" by being a black cop girl boss, but Biden will not play this game at all. He will drop WTF racist comments about black people and Latinos, and when it comes to empty platitudes, he's made it pretty clear talking like a conservative that people don't need help or handouts.

2022 is going to be a nightmare for them. The GOP is already set up to retake the House and I doubt they lose the Senate. Dems will find a way to blame everything on progressives, as they always do. There's also the coming far right reactionary movement that will arise as a result of Biden's failures. We already have QAnon people in Congress from the last election cycle. The Tea Party arose from Obama's failures. This time around, we're likely to get something extreme from the right wing, all while the Democratic party leadership keeps trying to meet in the middle and play centrist games with the GOP.

If progressives manage to double their numbers in midterms, they could potentially split from the Dems and leave that rotten, corrupt party to die. That's what I really hope happens. Let them self destruct around Biden and bring in their moderate Republican centrists they love so much. If progressives can split and make a real third party, the Dems would become obsolete.

    • OhWell [he/him]
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      And also Dems - How dare you want to start a third party and break off!! Do you want the GOP to win 2024!? Vote blue no matter who! You might not like Mitt Romney, but it's better than Tom Cotton!

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        We might need to stop joking about Mitt Romney (D) or else we could end up willing it into existence.

        • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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          Well he did give us the crowning achievement of liberal darling Obama in the form of the Affordable Care Act so Mitt Romney (D) was here all along. Maybe the true Romney is just the friends we made along the way.

        • OhWell [he/him]
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          It's going to happen. I have felt this way for a long time. He sees which way the wind is blowing and the GOP is fast becoming full blown neo-nazis.

          The DNC is obsessed with Obama. They built a cult of personality around him and their 2 favorite Republicans of the past decade are the ones who lost to him in his elections. All during the primary, they were searching for their next Obama. They tried it with Pete, Beto and Kamala before finally settling on his VP.

        • shitstorm [he/him]
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          He has no reason to. He's in Mormon country now, he can comfortably swing at the R from the inside without risking his seat.

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            As a Senator no. But going D could be a viable strategy for him to run for President again. Dems would love it. Just imagine Romney (D) vs. Trump (R) in 2024.

          • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Republican voters hate republicans as much as everyone else hates them. The same "lesser evil" ism exists within the reactionaries, but on single issues like abortion and police.

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      The craziness won't end though. Things started to get really bad in the last 2 years of Obama's presidency. We can even go further back to the 2008 recession and how that made life a living hell for many people.

      Libs will go back to not caring but they are in for a rude awakening in 2022 when Republicans sweep midterms. The table is all set for it.

  • Grace [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    I wish, but I wouldn't be too hopeful. That party has existed for more than 100 years, I can't see it shattering now. Although near-universally hated, they're the 'lesser evil' in everyone's mind.

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        Very well, you may be right. Sometimes it's difficult to comprehend things that were an ever prescence being gone. It feels like the Dem party will just be on slow burn till the end of the american empire

      • ActaCaboose [he/him]
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        I met a traveller from an antique land,

        Who said: “Two vast and trunkless legs of stone

        Stand in the desert. Near them, on the sand,

        Half sunk a shattered visage lies, whose frown,

        And wrinkled lip, and sneer of cold command,

        Tell that its sculptor well those passions read

        Which yet survive, stamped on these lifeless things,

        The hand that mocked them, and the heart that fed;

        And on the pedestal, these words appear:

        'My name is Ozymandias, King of Kings;

        Look on my Works, ye Mighty, and despair!'

        Nothing beside remains. Round the decay

        Of that colossal Wreck, boundless and bare

        The lone and level sands stretch far away.”

        -"Ozymandias" by Percy Shelley

        No empire lasts forever, and I think that just like the US at large, the Democratic Party is on its way out.

    • Prinz1989 [he/him]
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      The German SPD has existed since it's program was critizied by Marx himself and it's down to a 15% almost fringe party.

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    My take: the best thing that could happen to Trump was to lose on 2020, he'll keep blaming Biden on election fraud and he will eat the full force of another wave of COVID cases, that together with classic democratic fuckery will severely hurt Harris' chances of being elected. In the meantime Trump will seize the GOP and with his baseless "fraud" claims he will further agitate his base. Ultimately he will walk into the WH again in 2024, destroying a Harris-Rat formula with ease because libs are weak as fuck.

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      We are at least a decade away from that. I would prefer a revolution, but it isn't going to come any time soon.

        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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          There will be more next year, especially once Covid starts getting a bit more under control after the vaccine. If they show more organization, that's a good sign. From personal experience, the disorganized protests made a lot of people seek orgs to help guide them. The next ones will be even more organized.

        • hogposting [he/him,comrade/them]
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          4 years ago

          giving a shit about a bourgeois party

          He's saying Biden could destroy the Democratic Party, and that this would be a good thing. That's not giving a shit about the party, that's being (justifiably) pessimistic about the imminence of genuine revolution, and looking at what's possible right now or in the near future -- which means electoral politics.

  • DasKarlBarx [he/him,comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    I think the best chance for the party to fall apart is for them to have the Senate.

    If they inherit another crisis like they did in '08 while holding the executive and legislative branches and still do nothing meaningful (which they wouldn't) that'll do the most damage.

    It would also have to coincide with capital saying "fuck it" and just pivoting to Republicans trying to win everything and/or the left actually forming a meaning electoral vehicle in the US.

    • OhWell [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I don't disagree with you. I see exactly what you're saying. However, they just elected a president who is barely even a Democrat and loves to tell the media how he wants to work with Republicans on everything.

      Trump will be a distant memory to most people come summer time when Biden hasn't fixed anything, so the "but Trump" excuse won't work anymore.

        • OhWell [he/him]
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          He won't be in power anymore. If anything, I expect Trump to be whitewashed pretty early on after Biden drops the stimulus. There will be talks about how "at least with Trump, I got a check. Biden isn't doing anything to help me".

          They took the checks out of the stimulus package a few weeks ago and made comments how "people aren't actually hurting" and Biden himself saying "the government isn't supposed to help you, don't ask for handouts". That blew up in their faces and now they're shoving the checks back in.

          My guess is that Trump will highlight every failure Biden does and be tweeting about it constantly.

      • DasKarlBarx [he/him,comrade/them]
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        4 years ago

        Oh I think almost no matter what they're doing to get slaughtered in the '22 midterms and lose the '24 presidency but I'm not sure that'll be the end of the party without those other things happening.

    • kickit [he/him, they/them]
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      4 years ago

      I can't see him going full n-bomb but I can see him saying something outdated like "negro" and an endless stream of talking heads saying "he slipped up, it's not the same, terms change all the time"

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      No, I don't underestimate that at all. I'm one of the people on this site who loves to scream and yell how libs aren't going to radicalize and become leftists. No where am I suggesting this.

      Over 70 million people voted for Trump. The GOP got their biggest gains of POC in this election since the 1950s. They are starting to take in working class votes at an alarming rate while the Dems focused entirely on middle class white suburbs which were the only people Biden appealed to.

      All the Democrats have to offer anymore is empty platitudes and identity politics. Two things that are not working anymore for them. The "we see you, we hear you" stuff is to the point it's starting to piss people off as they realize that the party witnesses suffering but absolutely does not give a fuck about them.

      Libs aren't a majority and in the next few years, I think we're going to see a serious shift as liberalism is on it's way out dying. The GOP have made it loud and clear they're ready to move full blown fascist at any given second. The next far right reactionary movement is going to make the Tea Party and Trump look like a joke.

  • duderium [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Ugh. I really liked this until the last couple of paragraphs. It sounds a lot like the situation in the UK with Labor (at least until the last election), the Liberal Democrats, and the Tories. Things are "better" there, but they still suck. I think that although I would definitely cheer progressives forming a viable third party and destroying the Democrats, ultimately they would still have to work within a system which is specifically designed to stop them. We can use electoralism to gauge our strength, but real change is only going to come through organization, mass strikes, and revolution.