If you live in LA you'll need to go over at least one highway.

Edit: ITT many Americans telling me of how walkable and great their towns are. I'm happy for you but comrades, I've been to the US once and that was on a trip I won in high school so don't expect me to know the zoning plan of Providence, Wisconsin Pop. 235'489. I don't really care how lovely your city with two buslines is. For every Seattle or Chicago there are 34 Cincinnatis, Houstons and Las Vagases and approx. 234 exurbs and suburbs.

  • DrRobotnik [he/him,any]
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    4 years ago

    seriously though don't smoke. the vastness of preventable human suffering from smoking is mind boggling. head and neck cancer is really one of the most gruesome and horrific ways to die.

    • snackage [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Been a hard anti-smoker since I was 7. Anti-Smoking is one of like 4 things America is good at. Me being anti-smoker wasn't because of the US though.

    • Wojackhorseman2 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Had a family member die from copd. They had like ever health condition under that banner and basically suffocated to death slowly. By the time they went one of their lungs didn’t function st all and the other one was like 20ish% functional. It sucked

    • john_browns_beard [he/him, comrade/them]
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      4 years ago

      I have a cigar or pipe once every week or two and I can't fathom how people breathe that shit into their lungs, never mind like 20 or more times per day. I know that unfiltered tobacco is different, but if I accidentally inhale even a little bit, I'm ready to puke instantly.

      • DrRobotnik [he/him,any]
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        4 years ago

        lung cancer is huge but I think people overlook or just don't know about head and neck cancer. Left untreated you'll be slowly strangled to death by a stinking, fetid mass slowly expanding in your mouth or throat. With treatment, you'll have your tongue or jawbone or cheek or voice box cut out, and then radiated. Many will never talk or eat by mouth again. Many will have to breath through a tracheostomy. Many are disfigured and completely isolated by inability to communicate. and ~50% of the time, it will come back and kill you within 5 years anyway.

        I see these people every day and seethe with anger at the tobacco companies that knew smoking did this and didn't care.

    • snackage [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Egypt does have two coasts but I'm not from any of them

        • snackage [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          Mehmet isn't Arabic. He's from Turkey or from the Balkans.

          • post_trains [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            It's something of an ongoing bit from this twitter account. Mehmet is the name of the person who allegedly does the posts for one of the hosts because his original account was banned. Mehmet lives in Cairo (which is not on the coast iirc).

            Didn't know Mehmet was strictly Turkish - but that does kinda make sense. It's just the Turkish equivalent of Muhammad, right?

            • snackage [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              Oh it's a TruAnon bit? lol. It's not surprising that Brace picked up Mehmet from his time in Syria.

              t’s just the Turkish equivalent of Muhammad, right?

              Correct but I think it's also Serbo-Croatian. Like you'll find Albanians, Bosnians and Macedonians called Mehmet. Is probably also the form in Kurdish which is why Brace picked it up. It's just to an Arabic speaker it sticks out like a sore thumb. Doesn't preclude him from living in Cairo anyway, there has been a big influx of Syrian refugees to Egypt, but he'll probably go by Muhammad there.

              Cairo is on the Nile like almost all settlement in Egypt. The only big City that's on a coast is Alexandria.

    • Infamousblt [any]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah was gonna say wut. Chicago is an amazing city to get around in. The public transit there is some of the best around. Sidewalks are always clean and clear and I don't know of anywhere in the city without them. They're even trying out in some neighborhoods making walking streets; essentially weird streets that are bad for cars but good for people so that people walk on the street and cars avoid the street.

      They even MANDATE BY LAW that if you're a restaurant and have outdoor sidewalk seating, you MUST put planter boxes on your fences and they must have live plants in them. Chicago is a killer city to walk around in.

    • agoddamncheeto [any]
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      4 years ago

      Not in the winter you maniac. Also I’d say only parts are walkable. Lovely city though too bad mayors ruined it

  • RamrodBaguette [comrade/them, he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Chicago has a decent bus and transit system. Makes not being able to walk over large stretches of road to some of my favorite places (Field Museum) more bearable. That aside, it's fairly walkable.

  • FanondorfAmiibo [they/them,none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    Has anyone ever been to Vail? It's an incredibly walkable city with a free bus system, but it's all retail and hotels. It's like what Denver should be, but it's reserved for where rich people have fun.

    • snackage [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Ski Resort towns kinda have to be walkable because you need to carry your skis/snowboard around and you can't have a parking lot for thousands of cars on the side of a mountain.

      • ennuid [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I wish the ski resort town I'm in would get the fucking memo

    • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Vail fucking sucks shut up shut up

      You don't get credit for walkability and public transit when those amenities are only available to the uber rich

      fuck vail all my homies hate vail

      • FanondorfAmiibo [they/them,none/use name]
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        4 years ago

        Vail does suck, it's just that the architecture and general feel of the city center are great. It's bullshit that it's only afforded to rich people, and some of the houses built around the city are absolutely revolting when you see the conditions unhoused people have to deal with in Denver. The hiking or skiing isn't even particularly good because it's so packed with disrespectful rich assholes.

        • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
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          4 years ago

          Okay you're good. The first reported Rona case in Colorado came from an asshole who stayed at Vail to add yet another reason

          • FanondorfAmiibo [they/them,none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            Vail is barely even a real city. I don't think there's even a typical grocery store (or dispensary for that matter) within the city limits. It's mostly just an amalgamation of hotels and storefronts with the facade of a European city for rich people to have "mountain getaways" while they're within spitting distance of the interstate.

    • hazefoley [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      My buddy was a bus driver there one winter. The city is so expensive that business have to subsidize housing for service workers

    • deshara218 [any]
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      4 years ago

      Vail isn't a city based entirely on the fact that I've never heard of it

  • Minorityworld [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Eh. Seattle is pretty walkable I'd say better than san Fransisco even I rate this post 69 pinocchios

    • Gay_Wrath [fae/faer]
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      4 years ago

      AND portland erasure. Most of the city is in good walking distance of stores and parks, or at least public transit to get there. City planning, it works folks

      • snackage [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Does city planning really work if the compromise is having Nazis?

        • asaharyev [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          From my understanding, the Nazis, for the most part, don't actually live in the city. They live outside the city, like 30-45 minute drive away.

          • snackage [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            The impression I get from US news is that Portland is extra Amerikkkan.

            • Gay_Wrath [fae/faer]
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              4 years ago

              Portland is a land of contrasts.

              So oregon is straight up a white supremacist state, founded to hate the mayos only or whatever. But portland itself has developed a strong antifa unit in response to the fash (proud boys) coming in every few months to start shit. That whole concrete milkshake thing and Angy Gno getting knocked happened there. Plus, Portland protested for over 100 days during the George Floyd uprising this summer, only stopped because the forest fires choked us out, and then set up mutual aid stations for the fire refugees.

              They also did this dope stunt a few years back https://sports.yahoo.com/timbers-supporters-may-go-silent-to-protest-mls-ban-on-political-displays-155119930.html lol. Anyway, for amerikkka it's decently leftist. i see "ACAB" sentiments and graffiti here all the time. Once i saw "You have nothing to lose but your chains".

              • snackage [he/him]
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                4 years ago

                I follow Olivia Katbi so I know about Portland and how cool it can be. I also know that Portland has a "Nazi Problem" only in so far that they have an antifa strong enough to require challenge. So ironically without Portland antifa there wouldn't be any Portland Nazis. Just communicating that for an outside observer who just sees the surface it looks weird.

                Didn't know that about the Timbers fans. That's pretty cool. A lot of MLS fans have surprisingly taken more of the good stuff about Football fan culture from Europe than the bad stuff and it's great to see.

                • Gay_Wrath [fae/faer]
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                  4 years ago

                  It's definitely weird here!

                  So ironically without Portland antifa there wouldn’t be any Portland Nazis

                  You're right in a way, but i don't want to downplay how much oregon is a white supremacist state. Outside of portland it's dangerous to be outside at night if you're black. The nazis are in their native homeland here. Antifa has carved out a city where it is mostly safe except from kkkops. The portland nazis are from cities 20 min away, if that. Without antifa, portland would straight up be nazi territory.

                  But i get the sentiment of what you're saying, it is a bizzare scenario where portland itself is chill, but the nazis are the raiders from the subdivisions or rural areas to taunt the locals.

                • asaharyev [he/him]
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                  4 years ago

                  We really have. It's easier to see in larger SGs like the Timbers Army and Emerald City Supporters, but even smaller groups like Midnight Riders in New England and Empire Supporters Club for the Red Bulls have taken a lot of good shit. ESC in particular drove out fascists by force early in their history.

                  Even on /r/MLS the apologists and anti-antifa people were piled on and driven away. Though the players don't always follow suit.

      • Wojackhorseman2 [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Tbf walkable cities in USA are the exception. 90% of the country is designed around cars, even large cities. Most of Europe really beats us on this but they didn’t have automobile industries meddling in the creation of their infrastructure like we did.

      • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Portland is (Nazis aside) so much better than Seattle urban planning wise. Like, there's something special about being able to bike everywhere without climbing 500 feet. Plus, the extra 20 minutes of sunlight are the chef's kiss.

    • Magjee [any]
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      4 years ago

      When I was visiting Chicago is seemed walkable to pickup stuff (was right in the loop though)

  • asaharyev [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Boston is pretty walkable in a lot of places, but there are also large swaths of the city in residential neighborhoods with limited or no walking/biking/public transit infrastructure. Unsurprisingly, these neighborhoods being ignored are the poor communities and communities of color.

      • asaharyev [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Neither Harvard nor MIT is in Boston.

        Cambridge is pretty walkable, though, throughout the city with a relatively small section that is an exception due to McGrath Highway cutting through, but you can still get around.

        Somerville is extremely walkable throughout the city, with no reliance on it being a college community.

        Downtown Boston is very walkable, in the old parts like the North End, extending westward into DTX, the Theatre District, Chinatown, the Leather District....it's actually much harder to drive than walk in the area, but people still insist on driving everywhere. But that's probably because it's difficult to get into the city without a car.

        The parts that are less walkable are places like Roslindale, West Roxbury, Mattapan. Some parts of Jamaica Plain, Roxbury and Dorchester, too.

        But I'll grant you that because of BC and BU, you can walk most areas pretty easily around Comm Ave in Allston/Brighton, even as you get away from downtown. Because of Northeastern much of Huntington Ave is walkable. Looking at Dorchester, though, it seems many of those areas would be pretty neighborhood-ish and walkable even without the universities there.

        For us, it's just difficult to go between neighborhoods because of our crumbling infrastructure and our limited public transit. The trains just don't go conveniently between population centers.

  • deadbergeron [he/him,they/them]
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    4 years ago

    yes, that tweet on here saying americans love the college experience because it's the only time they live in a walkable community is accurate. My high school experience was also like this - everywhere I wanted to go I could walk to, the high school, my friends' houses, main street to eat, various spots in the woods to smoke weed. My town wasn't walkable looking back, but it was walkable for what I needed to do.

    Now I need to go to the grocery store and other places, and all my friends live far away. i finally understand the unwalkability of the american landscape. I love when they build these "lifestyle centers" in the suburbs - pretty much outdoor shopping malls with apartments. but everywhere else in the suburbs are atomized hell, so I guess these places seem nice to those people

    • snackage [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      yes, that tweet on here saying americans love the college experience because it’s the only time they live in a walkable community is accurate

      that was me lol. I made this meme after I made more fun of Americans with my friend.

        • snackage [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          how many times was your dealer not there because he was in traffic or delivering to someone else?

          No need to identify your home or your dealer's home to third parties if you do the transaction on a busy but punctual subway.

          • deadbergeron [he/him,they/them]
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            4 years ago

            haha i was just joking man i agree with you

            and tbh traffic's never going to get too bad where i live, and i was usually pretty tight with my dealers so I never really had any problems lol. but yes i would prefer an actual public transit infrastructure to atomized car culture

            • snackage [he/him]
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              4 years ago

              haha i was just joking man i agree with you

              No worries. We're just shooting the shit here. Never got into drugs but I imagine of the people to be tight with, your dealer is probably one of the best.

              • deadbergeron [he/him,they/them]
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                4 years ago

                haha for sure, sorry. but yeah i don't do drugs anymore, i had a lot of fun back then but after a while you see how drugs can really destroy you when they get of hand. a lot of people i miss for sure

  • foolie [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    The “worst” apartment/neighborhood I’ve lived in was the only one where I could walk to a corner store. Just a ghetto gas station, but still. I wonder how many people from my socio-economic strata would consider that proximity to be distasteful, rather than convenient and interesting. And how much the lack of cars matters in the viability of such businesses near to low-income housing.

    • Shinji_Ikari [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I'm in an area where theres a lot of apartments built over very useless specialty stores and expensive restaurants. So you get the "walkability" look without anywhere good to walk to and highways all around. I could see the mall but it'd take an hour walk.

      I recently moved to a place where I can walk to a corner store that sells beans, onions, rice, and other basics. As well as a deli that sells a bunch of cuts of meat. It's been life changing.

    • snackage [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Nothing will be cringier than an American that goes through a drive-thru bank or drive-thru pharmacy. Tell any European or even an African about that and we'll laugh in your face. Imagine the most impoverished Congolese peasant and tell him you sometimes need to get in a car to pick up your meds and he'll laugh at you till he dies and he'll be happier than you'll ever be.

  • ChapoBapo [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    I actually manage to live in the suburbs but can still walk to like 3 different grocery stores and like a dozen restaurants and things, BUT approximately half the walk is parking lot lmao

  • deshara218 [any]
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    4 years ago

    the federal projects in my city, one of the only apartments that will rent to black people, is on the other side of the port and up a mountain, and the only way to get from that mountain into town is to drive across a bridge over the port that goes open air -> concrete wall -> the mirror of a car -> the other mirror of that car -> concrete wall -> the mirror of a car -> the other mirror of that car -> concrete wall -> open air.

    The only things on that mountain aside from housing are, a gas station that doesn't sell gas, and a liquor store. I have a friend who lives there (bc shes black) & bc she has no generational wealth to provide for her a free car, it means she has to live off of gas station food every day of her life and has exactly 0 work prospects bc there's no bus that goes there even tho it's probably the highest concentration of people in the city. She is, effectively, in an open-air prison for poor people. My state is still openly segregated and has a ghetto that when you squint looks suspiciously like a concentration camp for minorities & poors

    edit: its also the largest city in my state.

    • Marsala [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Are there spaces for market gardens available? Who owns them, and how would they react if their land was used?

      • deshara218 [any]
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        4 years ago

        what? no, its a complex squeezed onto a mountain abutted up against a military base & even if they did open one it'd probably get burned to the ground by the cops

          • deshara218 [any]
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            4 years ago

            its 100% built out, crammed between a base & a port, on the side of a mountain there are no empty lots