• NewAcctWhoDis [any]
    hexbear
    133
    9 months ago

    There's a snopes article about this and it calls Bernie supporters sharing this "disingenuous" for not mentioning that she ordered the flag not be replaced after this guy tore it down for the second time in two days.

    https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/dianne-feinstein-confederate-flag/

    • Freeanotherday [he/him, they/them]
      hexbear
      122
      9 months ago

      Richard Bradley shinnied up a flagpole in front of San Francisco City Hall for the second time in as many days yesterday to tear down a Confederate flag he finds offensive. When he got to the ground, after ripping the flag to shreds and throwing the pieces to the ground, he was arrested and charged with malicious mischief. He was arrested on the same charge Sunday after he climbed the same flagpole and tore apart another Confederate flag

      Absolutely based.

    • Philosoraptor [he/him, comrade/them]
      hexbear
      88
      9 months ago

      demonstrators actually stole the flag in July before it was quickly replaced

      LIB passive voice alert. The flag "was quickly replaced." Just sort of happened. A force of nature, really--nobody actually did anything.

      • Magician [he/him, they/them]
        hexbear
        51
        9 months ago

        The plastic bag scene from American Beauty, but the wind blows a confederate flag onto a flagpole in San Francisco.

      • @goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org
        hexbear
        43
        9 months ago

        we're only taking it down because this person asked me to, not that I want it down

        She even dug in when announcing it wouldn't go back up, but totally just Bernie bros making her look bad

    • Adkml [he/him]
      hexbear
      68
      edit-2
      9 months ago

      After having it put back up after the first time.

      Not to give Churchill credit for anything ever but he really summed it up when he said Americans (liberals) can be counted on to do the right thing once they've exhausted every single other option.

    • JohnBrownIsCool [any]
      hexbear
      56
      9 months ago

      I was skeptical if this was true or not, but after I read this part

      We could find no evidence that Feinstein was responsible for that act, and the director of Recreation and Parks, Thomas Malloy, said it was done "quite by accident."

      I was like "oh okay so it 100% was Feinstein"

      • Adkml [he/him]
        hexbear
        45
        edit-2
        9 months ago

        Snopes turned into the exact thing republicans wrongly accused it of being from the start. Anytime somebody tries to gotcha with snopes just keep the article where they said Biden didn't fall going up the stairs of air force one or the one that claims Biden didn't say he doesn't have any empathy for young people.

        The debunking is literally "dont believe your lying eyes and ears"

      • sovietknuckles [they/them]
        hexbear
        29
        edit-2
        9 months ago

        They're only claiming to deboonk that she definitely did it multiple times

        Claim: While mayor of San Francisco mayor (sic) in 1984, Dianne Feinstein repeatedly ordered the reinstallation of a Confederate battle flag outside City Hall.

        Unproven

        pinocchio-evil pinocchio-evil pinocchio-evil pinocchio-evil

    • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
      hexbear
      43
      9 months ago

      At one point there was a snopes article about this and their sources were just that they asked her staff and they said no.

        • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
          hexbear
          19
          9 months ago

          I'm kinda pissed I can't find the article, even on wayback. I found it when Dave Anthony did a whole rant about it on the Dollop patreon a couple months back.

  • edric@lemm.ee
    hexbear
    76
    9 months ago

    If you're a politician in office today and have black and white pictures of yourself as an adult, you shouldn't be in office.

    • D3FNC [any]
      hexbear
      7
      9 months ago

      Stanford class of 1955 blew my mind when I saw that in her obituary

  • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
    hexbear
    59
    9 months ago

    Some other fun facts about her

    When asked about her relationship with Beijing, Feinstein said, "I sometimes say that in my last life maybe I was Chinese."

    In September 2016—in advance of UN Security Council resolution 2334 condemning Israeli settlements in the occupied Palestinian territories—Feinstein signed an AIPAC-sponsored letter urging Obama to veto "one-sided" resolutions against Israel

    At an April 2017 town hall meeting in San Francisco, Feinstein was booed when she stated that she did not support a proposal for single-payer health insurance. Feinstein said, "[i]f single-payer health care is going to mean the complete takeover by the government of all health care, I am not there."

    Following her 2012 vote to extend the Patriot Act and the FISA provisions, and after the 2013 mass surveillance disclosures involving the National Security Agency (NSA), Feinstein promoted and supported measures to continue the information collection programs. Feinstein and Saxby Chambliss also defended the NSA's request to Verizon for all the metadata about phone calls made within the U.S. and from the U.S. to other countries.

    At an August 29, 2017 event in San Francisco, Feinstein expressed hope that Trump could become a good president. "The question is whether he can learn and change", she said. "If so, I believe he can be a good president".

    • @thefartographer@lemm.ee
      hexbear
      45
      9 months ago

      Look, my grandmother didn't have a single racist bone in her body, but all of these things sound like stuff she said after she began to decline due to dementi- ahhhh... fuuuuu.....

      • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
        hexbear
        26
        9 months ago

        My grandma just started openly calling trump a dickhead, which was extremely funny

        • D61 [any]
          hexbear
          21
          9 months ago

          This reminds me of my spouse's grandma who kept talking about doing a

          Show willem-van-spronsen
          on right wing politicians as she figured, "fuck it, I'm old and a widow."

          • @tocopherol@lemmy.dbzer0.com
            hexbear
            9
            9 months ago

            Fuck I want to see this action movie, basically Inglorious Basterds but an elderly woman just blasting chuds, with fitness and graceful combat prowess.

          • Nagarjuna [he/him]
            hexbear
            6
            9 months ago

            doing a

            Show willem-van-spronsen
            on right wing politicians

            Shooting out the tires on their cars?

            • D61 [any]
              hexbear
              6
              9 months ago

              That's on the more polite end of things...

  • D3FNC [any]
    hexbear
    55
    9 months ago

    The fine legacy of wealthy, conservative, pro-cop, anti-LGBT, Stanford graduate, doctor's kid, ex-wife of a neurosurgeon Diane Feinstein that used her influence to aggressively prosecute medical workers found to have known of, or participated in abortions up until the absolute last minute.

    Diane Feinstein, mayor of San Francisco after Harvey Milk's assassination, known for publicly begging gay people to please act normal in public so as not to tarnish San Francisco's reputation. Diane "personally responsible for the SF housing crisis" Feinstein, champion of the war on drugs? That legacy?

    Diane Feinstein, because what we really needed was more conservative billionaires in congress.

    I don't know how anyone to the left of Goldwater could have ever defended this woman. The old guard of the DNC, Biden especially, somehow makes the republican party look progressive.

    • RNAi [he/him]
      hexagon
      hexbear
      20
      9 months ago

      Personally I don't want the US ruling parties to incorporate young people into their ranks. I want them to be commanded by increasingly demented ghouls

  • cricbuzz [he/him]
    hexbear
    37
    9 months ago

    his name is richard bradley https://abc7news.com/dianne-feinstein-confederate-flag-elementary-school-richard-bradley-feinsten/10138792/

  • Frank [he/him, he/him]
    hexbear
    34
    9 months ago

    Okay I didn't know about that, whoever did the climb was is badass as hell.

  • UlyssesT [he/him]
    hexbear
    27
    9 months ago

    By far braver than the troops to tear that shit down. sankara-salute

  • FactuallyUnscrupulou [he/him]
    hexbear
    25
    9 months ago

    As I've gotten older I've seen so many shitty people do wretched stuff and get away with it. It really makes me seethe at the obnoxious atheist crowd. If the afterlife is just some end of consciousness like a TV powering off I'll be pissed. I hope there is a hell and that these folks are burning for eternity; just a white hot searing pain unimaginable to humanity.

    • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
      hexbear
      11
      9 months ago

      Imagine caring about their feelings

      They go in the hole where they can't hurt anyone anymore and that's it

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
      hexbear
      9
      9 months ago

      There's no pie in the sky when you die. If you want to the-doohickey punish the wicked the-doohickey you've got to do it in the material plane. You've only got one life!

    • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
      hexbear
      5
      9 months ago

      A lot of cultures believe the afterlife to be a pretty ominous place. You're floating around in endless darkness while still being able to feel hunger and thirst. What you do in life has no effect on where you go or what happens when you get there because it's the same for everybody. The only real difference is how people in your life feel about you. If they care then they will regularly leave behind offerings to you so that your spirit won't continue to feel hunger pains or thirst. Otherwise you'll be stuck in darkness while experiencing endless pain.

  • D61 [any]
    hexbear
    15
    9 months ago

    Fuck me I forgot about this. Spider-Jerusalem

    • ElGosso [he/him]
      hexbear
      29
      9 months ago

      And they kept reinstalling it after people took it down until finally a bunch of communists cut the flagpole down

    • betelgeuse [comrade/them]
      hexbear
      24
      9 months ago

      What important moment in US history was that flag symbolizing? smuglord

      Also Western politicians did start allying with Southern politicians during the Civil Rights Era. It's not a coincidence that some specific moments were recognized.

    • Awoo [she/her]
      hexbear
      18
      9 months ago

      And the moment it was torn down is now also an important moment in US history.

      Dickhead.

    • manuallybreathing [comrade/them]
      hexbear
      9
      9 months ago

      americans will complain about pride flags and then have a pdf ready to go showing dozens of flags symbolizing their evil empire

      there's no such thing as States, these are all just MeNtAl DiSoRdErS lol

      🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️

      you must understand how your comment comes across comrade, it's not great. I've enjoyed reading about the different flags though, so thank you for that at least.

      the Moultrie Flag is pretty cool, interesting I've never seen that one when people start defending slavery talking about southern heritage

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
        hexbear
        9
        9 months ago

        "States" are such bullshit. "Oh, it's not the USA doing it, It's Dipshitska, which is part of the United States except when it wants to do something bad then our hands are tied! So sad!"