Wondering which states in America you believe are best situated to deal with incoming disasters, and/or other countries you think are less likely to face some of the more severe effects.
Land in Michigan seems fairly cheap, and could become decent farmland with warming global temperatures.
EDIT: Just noticed I'm not the only one with this idea. We should start setting up communes there with the eventual goal of taking over the state.
I don't know about everybody else, but my plan is to emigrate to China. They're both humanist enough to not let a Texas happen and have the resources to prevent a Texas from happening. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but basically my plans for the future involve the ability for the Chinese state to do all the sci-fi things people will need to survive.
Think they'll take an uneducated American who doesn't speak mandarin? Asking for a friend...
I've heard it's feasible to get a job teaching English with basically that skillset. No idea on the details, though.
Are they gonna need English teachers that badly after the west implodes though?
President Xi plz set up schools for dumb laowais like me so we don't have to fight in the climate wars
It's likely that the U.S. zombie economy will shamble on for quite a while longer. So... maybe?
230 million people still speak French with a projection of 650 million in 30 years and their empire exploded centuries ago. English will be important your entire lifetime.
You get a z visa which is good for 30 days on arrival. To do this you need a job, you need 2 years experience or a TEFL and then you need to convert to short term residency on arrival. Short term residency is renewable every 12 months.
20,000 people in the last 10 years were issued permanent residency in China. This is above a 100 percent improvement from the previous decade where about about 8000 people were issued permanent residency. China does not want you.
You do as you get older since it’s required for citizenship as well. You might be young now, but imagine being 60 and having the threat of being kicked out of the country each year to some place you haven’t spent the majority of your life. Chinas immigration policy alone should strike it off anyone seriously thinking about a move larger than a 5 year trip in their 20s.
Are you dense? This is Asia so pretty often, but you are strongly encouraged to go before you get forced to. Also China has a mandatory retirement at age 60 so good luck keeping your work visa past that point so you can watch your kids get married while you get deported back to wherever after you got a divorce or your significant other died. Your short term residency permit having to be refilled every year while the rules change constantly as well doesn’t help. At that point why not just go to Vietnam if you really want to be in a socialist run country?
No. They don’t take 8 figure phds married to Chinese citizens now, why would they even consider you?
Depends on the time-scale. Everyone saying the midwest is probably not wrong, especially the more northerly states. Mostly working off of this data: https://projects.propublica.org/climate-migration/
edit: obligatory "america is prob not where you want to be when SHTF" tho
came here to post this. and tell you to scroll to the bottom and see Vermont has the majority of best counties. come to my land project in vermont!
Michigan:
You're nowhere near the coast, so no need to worry about sea level rise.
Even if hurricanes keep getting bigger, they're not getting anywhere close to Michigan.
We're a couple hundred miles from tornado alley, so no worries there.
Droughts? LMAO!
Heat? Crank it up by five degrees here and you're still getting mountains of snow every year.
Wildfires? No chance.
Mosquitoes/disease? Could happen anywhere, but the northern US is more protected from them than anywhere else in the country.
Legit Michigan is probably the state most insulated from the effects of climate change.
Wildfires? No chance.
I dunno about that. Northern Michigan, Wisconsin, and Minnesota are heavily forested and full of conifers and birch. If things started to get consistently dry, it could be pretty bad, especially given the relative lack of road infrastructure and firefighting resources.
The big problem people don't consider with the great lakes region is that once you hit conifer forests and wetlands in the north, the soil is very acidic and sandy. Lower Michigan, Wisconsin, Minnesota, and southern Ontario have decent agricultural product, and that will likely remain, but it will not be enough to support a massive influx of people without additional crops from the southern Midwest and great plains. If long-distance transport breaks down and local production becomes essential, the north woods are never going to feed a large population, even with a longer growing season. Maybe this could be ameliorated with hothouses and soil engineering, but we're not really talking about a context where that's likely. Hunting and fishing would help, but fish populations have already been heavily, heavily reduced and I don't think the deer would hold up long.
All this being said, yeah, it's probably the best place to go. Go join in revitalizing a proletarian society in Detroit, Milwaukee, or Chicago or fuck off to a commune in the north woods where you might survive enough winters to engage in the 4-wheeler cavalry battles of the future.
Upper Peninsula is majority chuds, but the population is pretty low so a migration of new people would rival their size quickly.
Plus if the US completely collapses it's an easy escape into C*nada
Yeah I mean the biggest problems are probably sea level rise, droughts, and wildfires, so you just gotta be away from the coasts, north, and east. Upper Midwest and non-coastal New England are your best bets, and Michigan/Wisconsin/Upstate NY (to a lesser extent) get bonus points for the Great Lakes.
This is the state I was seriously considering moving to until I realized how valuable my family support system is in my current state.
What about the great lakes? Will they face rising levels as well?
They can flood and will likely face much more serious ebbs and flows, but all of the Great Lakes are well above sea level.
Midwest aka what all you coastal people would know as the great lakes states.
Upstate New York. No tornadoes, hurricanes, and we get a shit-ton of snow and freezing temperatures (so when the atmosphere warms it’ll probably be pretty mild). Housing relatively cheap to buy right now. Many secluded areas with lots of foliage
and we get a shit-ton of snow and freezing temperatures (so when the atmosphere warms it’ll probably be pretty mild
You do get that this isn't how things work, right? Looking around, there might be a thing happening at the moment that should imply this.
Eel X shuns? Eel X never did me wrong, I'm not gonna shun the lil guy
When the water wars really kick off the great lakes will be the battleground. Like 1/5 of the world's fresh water is in the great lakes. Not sure if that's going to be good or bad for trying to live in those areas but I sure wish I could afford to buy land in chicago.
I hope that when the time comes, NZ will do to the Australian climate refugees what the Australians have done to the "boat people".
Hard question to answer. Depends on how the different cycles & feedback loops break down and in what order.
Like, Do you expect the thermohaline cycle to shut down in your lifetime or after? Because that changes a lot.
Tbf land will be cheap and the dumbass chud bandits will provide plenty of fresh meat on a regular basis
think of how many free stetsons and guns you could find on the ground once the dust settles
WNC seems like it'll be at least somewhat alright, plenty of water, plenty of forest, everything's on top of mountains, so you're safe from sea level rise and Tornadoes. No chance of an earthquake for like another 50,000 years because the mountains are so old. Might have wildfire risk, but it's not as bad as CA because of the frequent rain.
