I’m not sure anyone outside of Twitter actually likes her. Her campaign imploded, her only memorable policy was means-tested into oblivion, and she covered up police brutality. She offers nothing except tokenism.

    • LangdonAlger [any]
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      i get where you're coming from, but it's hard to dismiss the notion that the DNC picked her largely so they could run a woman of color against Trump, and that's pretty much tokenism to a T. she's a freshman senator, not a (real) progressive, and not from a swing state.

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        From their perspective she's a progressive, which might or might not be true depending on who you ask. It's all subjective.

        • extraterrestrial5 [none/use name]
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          Please read Marx. There's nothing subjective about the bourgeois class' accumulation of capital, that's why people these days have even less control over the means of production than feudal serfs despite all the "progress".

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            What does that have to do with Kamala Harris though, this is why leftist don't win at anything.. lol

            • extraterrestrial5 [none/use name]
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              She is a "progressive" but the thing she is progressing is making more people live in poverty, in fact as a careerist prosecutor she gaves out felony records that disenfranchise people further away from having property rights, the opposite of material progress.

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                The alternative was a war criminal, and some of the other names were way more conservative. You need to be realistic given the circumstances. Telling people to read Marx because you diagree with them isn't going to solve anything. :rose-fist:

                https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/09/28/the-women-who-shaped-obamas-foreign-policy/

                  • Darkmatter2k [none/use name]
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                    You need to be realistic given the circumstances

                    This will be the banner on the entrance to the concentration/work camps created for the poor and homeless under the progressive biden / harris administration

                • updog [none/use name]
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                  Just say you're a fucking lib and go away, what are you trying to gain here?

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                    My point is basically just: It could have been way worse.

                    She's not good, but she is also NOT a war criminal. That's it and that's all.

        • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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          Yeah and their perspective is incorrect, what's your point?

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            See post title.

            It's called balancing the ticket.

            • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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              But she's not actually going to appeal to progressives though, even weaksauce ones (and progressives are already pretty weaksauce), which is the entire reason you balance the ticket

              • Nakoichi [they/them]
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                Love getting called a racist for calling out the fact that Harris offers literally nothing besides being not-a-white-man to the ticket and if anything is an extremely tone-def choice given the current movement against police brutality and her track record of prosecuting people for non-violent drug offences.

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      ? She built her career on imprisoning black and brown people, letting cops get away with brutality, intentionally stopping innocent people from being released from prison due over paperwork errors, and sending trans women to mens prisons. Her only memorable policy proposal sounded like someone doing satire of means-testing. What does she have to offer?

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        "She offers nothing except tokenism" is why I said this, I didn't say she didn't have a shitty past or some dumb policies.

        Click my profile, there is another thread asking for what she has to offer and I gave a short answer there.

        EDIT: oh, this is that thread. Look down below.. lol

    • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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      Bullshit. This is absolutely their MO, and you are getting duped if you can't wrap your head around it. Dr. Cornel West calls it "Black faces in high places." As an alternative to making material concessions that will improve the lives of minorities and colonized people, they will run minority candidates to uphold the same exact system of neoliberal imperialism, with the added benefit of accusing all of their dissidents as bigots. They mean to tell us that it doesn't matter how many minorities are living in poverty, or in prison, or under military occupation in the third world as long as it is possible for one to squeak into the White House. They have no intent of bringing about racial or social justice, let alone justice and reparations for the historical crimes of the empire.

      When Obama got elected as the first Black US President, it set off a powderkeg of racism. We all understand that. We live in an incredibly racist country. This comes as no surprise to us. From our perspective, this is baked into the cake of a settler colonial power founded on the vast riches extracted from the stolen land of indigenous people and the stolen labor of African slaves. A settler colonial power which has never come to terms with the injustice it has wrought. It is our view that there is a vast injustice lying here which has never been settled, and the last thing we will abide is liberals telling us the consequences of this country's vast racism and colonialism can be set settled simply because the bourgeoisie has finally selected a figurehead who isn't white. As long as they are sitting atop the wealth and power they have accumulated through these historic crimes, there has been no justice.

      I don't know about you, but I would rather have the appallingly disproportionate number of Black, Latino and indigenous people being held in our prisons set free, than elect a bourgeois minority to assuage the guilty conscious of upper-middle class suburbanites who are striving to be woke. I would rather have we stop bombing people in the Middle East, than thrust an Muslim into the seat of supreme imperial power. I would rather all of our undocumented comrades be treated as human beings and neighbours than give power to a conniver who can speak Spanish on the debate stage. And you know what? That's fine. Because it will be all these categories of oppressed people who are leading the vanguard. They will be doing it not out of choice, not because a bunch of rich white people thought it would do well for their brand. They will be doing it out of necessity.

    • KamalaHarris [she/her]
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      Thank you! It's going to be a long campaign of this nonsense.