I’m not sure anyone outside of Twitter actually likes her. Her campaign imploded, her only memorable policy was means-tested into oblivion, and she covered up police brutality. She offers nothing except tokenism.

  • Nakoichi [they/them]
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    She offers nothing except tokenism.

    There's your answer. Liberal identity politics, that's it.

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      She offers nothing except tokenism.

      She's a loyal courtier in California politics. She offers a vast network of money and privilege as well as a friendly face in the prosecutorial community.

      She's got all the hallmarks of a Barack Obama, minus the speaking skills and the appearance of authenticity.

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        Wasn't her campaigns inability to raise funds the reason why she sank so early though?

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            if having one campaign headquarters is good, having two campaign headquarters must be twice as good

    • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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      This is a bad take, she is deeply connected to California fundraising networks which played a key role in keeping the Obama administration afloat. And now with the increased consciousness among Dem voters and donors around down ballot stuff, this will prove to be useful.

      She also does have a sizable fan base of deranged supporters who will work hard to make sure Biden gets elected, where among VP potentials only Warren came with this sort of support.

      Lastly, and this is the biggest one, she is the strongest bet at be able to hold the Obama coalition together in future election cycles. Biden was only able to win black voters the way he did because of Obama, and Harris will be able to increase her approval among white college educated moderates by being VP. This was their only way to blunt the lefts momentum into the white house during the next election cycle.

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        i get where you're coming from, but it's hard to dismiss the notion that the DNC picked her largely so they could run a woman of color against Trump, and that's pretty much tokenism to a T. she's a freshman senator, not a (real) progressive, and not from a swing state.

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          From their perspective she's a progressive, which might or might not be true depending on who you ask. It's all subjective.

          • extraterrestrial5 [none/use name]
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            Please read Marx. There's nothing subjective about the bourgeois class' accumulation of capital, that's why people these days have even less control over the means of production than feudal serfs despite all the "progress".

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              What does that have to do with Kamala Harris though, this is why leftist don't win at anything.. lol

              • extraterrestrial5 [none/use name]
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                She is a "progressive" but the thing she is progressing is making more people live in poverty, in fact as a careerist prosecutor she gaves out felony records that disenfranchise people further away from having property rights, the opposite of material progress.

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                  The alternative was a war criminal, and some of the other names were way more conservative. You need to be realistic given the circumstances. Telling people to read Marx because you diagree with them isn't going to solve anything. :rose-fist:

                  https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/09/28/the-women-who-shaped-obamas-foreign-policy/

                    • Darkmatter2k [none/use name]
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                      You need to be realistic given the circumstances

                      This will be the banner on the entrance to the concentration/work camps created for the poor and homeless under the progressive biden / harris administration

                  • updog [none/use name]
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                    Just say you're a fucking lib and go away, what are you trying to gain here?

                    • heqt1c [he/him]
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                      My point is basically just: It could have been way worse.

                      She's not good, but she is also NOT a war criminal. That's it and that's all.

          • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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            Yeah and their perspective is incorrect, what's your point?

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              See post title.

              It's called balancing the ticket.

              • Orannis62 [ze/hir]
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                But she's not actually going to appeal to progressives though, even weaksauce ones (and progressives are already pretty weaksauce), which is the entire reason you balance the ticket

                • Nakoichi [they/them]
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                  Love getting called a racist for calling out the fact that Harris offers literally nothing besides being not-a-white-man to the ticket and if anything is an extremely tone-def choice given the current movement against police brutality and her track record of prosecuting people for non-violent drug offences.

      • crime [she/her, any]
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        ? She built her career on imprisoning black and brown people, letting cops get away with brutality, intentionally stopping innocent people from being released from prison due over paperwork errors, and sending trans women to mens prisons. Her only memorable policy proposal sounded like someone doing satire of means-testing. What does she have to offer?

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          "She offers nothing except tokenism" is why I said this, I didn't say she didn't have a shitty past or some dumb policies.

          Click my profile, there is another thread asking for what she has to offer and I gave a short answer there.

          EDIT: oh, this is that thread. Look down below.. lol

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        Bullshit. This is absolutely their MO, and you are getting duped if you can't wrap your head around it. Dr. Cornel West calls it "Black faces in high places." As an alternative to making material concessions that will improve the lives of minorities and colonized people, they will run minority candidates to uphold the same exact system of neoliberal imperialism, with the added benefit of accusing all of their dissidents as bigots. They mean to tell us that it doesn't matter how many minorities are living in poverty, or in prison, or under military occupation in the third world as long as it is possible for one to squeak into the White House. They have no intent of bringing about racial or social justice, let alone justice and reparations for the historical crimes of the empire.

        When Obama got elected as the first Black US President, it set off a powderkeg of racism. We all understand that. We live in an incredibly racist country. This comes as no surprise to us. From our perspective, this is baked into the cake of a settler colonial power founded on the vast riches extracted from the stolen land of indigenous people and the stolen labor of African slaves. A settler colonial power which has never come to terms with the injustice it has wrought. It is our view that there is a vast injustice lying here which has never been settled, and the last thing we will abide is liberals telling us the consequences of this country's vast racism and colonialism can be set settled simply because the bourgeoisie has finally selected a figurehead who isn't white. As long as they are sitting atop the wealth and power they have accumulated through these historic crimes, there has been no justice.

        I don't know about you, but I would rather have the appallingly disproportionate number of Black, Latino and indigenous people being held in our prisons set free, than elect a bourgeois minority to assuage the guilty conscious of upper-middle class suburbanites who are striving to be woke. I would rather have we stop bombing people in the Middle East, than thrust an Muslim into the seat of supreme imperial power. I would rather all of our undocumented comrades be treated as human beings and neighbours than give power to a conniver who can speak Spanish on the debate stage. And you know what? That's fine. Because it will be all these categories of oppressed people who are leading the vanguard. They will be doing it not out of choice, not because a bunch of rich white people thought it would do well for their brand. They will be doing it out of necessity.

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        Thank you! It's going to be a long campaign of this nonsense.

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    Kamala the cop literally doesn’t believe in anything or have any convictions.

    Remember her sponsoring Bernie’s Medicare For All bill and then pivoting to public option “over 10 year transition period”.

    Remember “That little girl was me” and then taking the VP spot for the same racist democratic candidate.

    She’ll believe and say anything just to get ahead.

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    A guarantee that Biden's "Assault Weapons Ban" goes through in some form or another.

    You can forget weed being legalized.

    Cop unions are going to triple in power.

    Bernie's Medicare For All is about to be neutered.

    A bitter thought to cry myself to sleep whenever I want to.

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      dude i'm brazilian and even here the right has already started calling her a pro-abortion socialist

      it just doesn't fucking work lmao

  • communistthrowaway69 [none/use name]
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    The party elected Joe Biden.

    Its base is devoid of substance, and are largely polite Republicans.

    They are unironically going to try the "for every one blue collar, two suburb voters" strategy again. Only it might work this time since they brought the Bush people onboard.

    Dems aren't thinking any further than ticking a diversity box, and prosecutor. No one gives a shit about Twitter, or the debates.

    It's a completely Dem pick. Utterly predictable.

    It's wrong to say they learned nothing from 2016. They learned how to kick us out and get the demographic they always dreamed of.

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          I don't really agree with this. There are a lot of relatively apolitical people in the suburbs of basically every city that also somehow always vote.

          These are the people that decide elections and their top concerns are higher taxes and broad economic stability and growth, but no longer vote republican because they capped SALT deductions.

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            If someone claims to be apoltical, it just means that their political beliefs align with the status quo - in other words, a lib.

            • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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              Yeah, but there's a difference between a partisan back lib who does shit like post Pelosi memes, and someone who doesn't pay attention to politics because they don't have any real complaints.

                • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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                  Except they do have complaints, Trump repealed the SALT deduction. It's why democrats took back the house and are constantly fighting for tax cuts now.

                    • cracksmoke2020 [none/use name]
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                      Look, there are a lot of people that voted for Bush 2x, then Obama in 08, were split on 2012 and are split now.

                      I'm not talking about people who identify with the republican party as much as just like centrists in general, who vote against whoever's fucking up the status quo, are a real electoral force, and they swing back and forth between the two parties.

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                          I think there are people who just kinda vote their gut, and they're generally happy with the status quo. This group today is best represented by democrats today, but historically had long been republican. Every congressional district in orange county CA flipped blue in 2018, and that's the place where the modern GOP originated from with Nixon and Reagan.

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    She reassures racist white libs that BLM will be put down and nothing will change while shielding them from feeling racist for wanting that.

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    Go back a year, and I feel like Kamala's ONLY selling point was that she would have "owned" Trump in the debates, according to libs...

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    Counting backwards from 100. Drawing a clockface that shows 10 past 11. Staying up past 7pm.

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    I remember I was watching the local news when Kamala dropped out before the Iowa Caucus and the political analysts on there said “it’s not a big deal where her support goes because she had zero support to begin with.”

    Also she got bodied in her home state in the polls. So who the fuck knows

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    I have an extensive career working with the criminal justice system, which is certainly an invaluable asset during these tumultuous times. Trump wants to accuse Democrats of being soft on crime and rioting and looting and terrorism. Well, Joe and I are happy for the opportunity to prove him wrong!