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Unless you're protesting something the state supports, then you're all good. Shutting down highways was a-ok when the anti-Cuban protestors did it a few weeks ago.
Np, I had just looked it up to make sure I was right about what I heard. :solidarity:
to be fair im pretty sure there are images of people that chinese tanks did run over but idk what happened tbh
Where? I remember one that has the red levels blasted out that was clearly like a pile of shirts, but I don't remember seeing any with bodies that had been run over.
if you just google it you'll find some. I will give it to you that it's not actually easy to make out a person like in this one (EXTREMELY NSFW/NSFL) https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EZokXaxUMAAesn0?format=jpg&name=small but i'm pretty sure I can see an arm in there idk. also the picture could literally be from anywhere
There's also this one that I see sometimes which is very clearly blown out on the red channel.
Like I don't think tanks have bright red guns.
It's always impossible to tell what the hell you're looking at with these. Like it could just be garbage or foam that was used for firefighting that's tinted red then blown out to make it look more like blood.
There's also no backstory, context, or corroborating evidence for any of them.
(Updated link, the url had a 3 letter slur for gay in it and got removed lol)
yeah idk. I wanna be skeptical but i feel like a holocaust denier when talking about this shit. it's the same reason i don't ever mention the Uyghur stuff. Like it's not impossbile to me that china is doing that stuff and did do bad shit at Tiananmen square but there's also a huge incentive for western powers to make that up or exaggerate it.
FYI there are many accounts from journalists who were there that there was no violence at Tianenmen Square. There was violence between protestors and military in areas nearby, generally it seems it was started by protestors (egged on by their leaders who now live in the US :soviet-hmm: ) as initially the soldiers had no weapons. Idk if you knew that, just pointing it out.
https://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/89BEIJING18828_a.html
https://hexbear.net/post/25858/comment/183812
https://hexbear.net/post/116519/comment/1314912
wait in the wikileaks thingy it says gallo doesn't doubt that hundreds were killed though
Read the third link, which is a comment of mine which explains and contextualizes everything.
I'm at work atm but in the meantime I believe genzedong and sino have reliable sources in their sidebars/wikis
The key difference is "no backstory, context, or corroborating evidence" like with the Holocaust, there are museums and memorials and a large number of victims are known and their stories are known and the records exist. There are witnesses and survivors that prove that it happened and support the stories.
A single grainy photograph of red stuff on a WordPress blog with no context besides some random person claiming that it's people run over by tanks is not very compelling evidence of mass slaughter or anything.
The worst part is that there is ample evidence of conflict and death during the protests, there are videos and images of lynched PLA soldiers and it's known that there was open, armed, conflict all over the place outside the city and in some places inside the city. This situation is way different than mass slaughter of innocent people and peaceful demonstrators, but for some reason is entirely ignored by western accounts.
Haha, I was the second mod of r/196! I resigned in protest because my powers got frozen after I banned r/PoliticalCompassMemes users on sight.
ah a shame, it would've been fun to datamine and mass-report the first mod into perma-banishment to usurp another popular sub
Someone in the comments saying that they hate tankies more than neo-Nazis.
Legit wtf is wrong with people's brains.
Apparently it's tankies who stifle every progressive movement and not liberals who will always have an excuse as to why we can't have good things.
If you hate Communists more than Fascists then you're a Fascist.
Someone in the comments saying that they hate tankies more than neo-Nazis.
Found the :pigmask-off:
Yer a nazi Harry. I can see the SS tattoo on your forehead you know. That's why I invite you to our british private school.
you can make fun of that post all you want but authoritarianism is a serious problem that all leftists should take seriously
Then to extend on that I can say authoritarianism is a meaningless concept and all states will be authoritarian, it's our job to use the state's power to smash institutions of imperialism and oppression, you know, like China's doing.
I'm so glad that pig poop balls is still a thing. I've been laughing at the same picture for years now and I feel no shame.
I don't think there is a single person that denies there was a conflict at Tienanmen Square, its just that to these libs questioning any of the deranged embellishments they made up about the event counts as denying anything happened. Like I bet most of them think the guy got ran over, and you would be a red fash tankie to correct them.
If it was in the US, the tank would have run him over and 80% of the country would have approved of it when polled.
If you agree with this event
I mean, I would hope everyone would agree with tanks not running over a random civilian, but I guess lots of people out there really want to ram their car into protestors so
It's kinda sad because we all know tankies aren't an actual problem for anyone posting this stuff and you could drop these same people in China and they'd be just like any other tourist. It's like hanging a big red sign saying "I'm not like THOSE lefties so New Yorker, if you're listening. . ."
Redditors will never fact check what actually happened because they won't be able to repost it for karma.
