https://twitter.com/IlhanMN/status/1439032801442025472

    • pppp1000 [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      But you see our progressive politicians have to abide by the state department and Democratic Party handbook and be contradictory

      • s0ykaf [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        this notion that reality moves in slow increments is anti-dialectic

        that said, even if it wasn't - lula actively works to subvert and/or disarm any kind of growing far-left movement in the country, so his baby steps are actually getting in our way, not paving it for us

        • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          And yet it was still important to oppose the coup. Wild how anti imperialism is mad complicated.

          That said, if there was a stronger left in Brazil, maybe he'd still be in office.

          • s0ykaf [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            And yet it was still important to oppose the coup.

            to oppose what coup? if you mean the recent events, lula didn't do shit - like, seriously, he really didn't. the only people going out that day were the communists and anarchists, the shitlibs from the PT not only stayed home but they even tried to discourage us from leaving lmao

            the main current line of the PT is to basically "keep the peace, wait for the elections and win"

            the PT aren't even socdems at this point, they're just lame centrists, and some relevant members are actually right-wingers (rui costa, the governor of a large state here, is right-wing as fuck, could easily be a republican in the US)

  • crime [she/her, any]
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    3 years ago

    Deng Xiaoping :deng-cowboy: getting the imperial core to give you its manufacturing base and fund the development of your productive forces until you've surpassed them and now they're big mad but at your mercy... chad move

    • fuckwit [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      haha Getting the imperial core to give you its manufacturing base in exchange for stabbing the USSR in the back and isolating them haha so based so cool

      fuck Deng.

      • UncleJoe [comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        It wasn't Deng that stabbed the USSR in the back though lol, if anything Deng's shitty foreign policy carried over from Mao

        • fuckwit [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Mao might have started it but Deng rubberstamped the sino-soviet split after his meeting with Khruschev.

            • fuckwit [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              Before he became Chairman, Deng was still in his mother's womb and not part of the Chinese leadership and head of the military. Everyone knows that.

      • crime [she/her, any]
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        3 years ago

        Yeah the USSR of the 80s was definitely worth dealing with and not entirely revisionist and crumbling. Lmao

        • fuckwit [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          Calling Gorby and Khrushchev revisionist and stanning literal state capitalist Deng. How that does that fucking work in your brains lmao?

          • crime [she/her, any]
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            3 years ago

            China is still around and thriving largely because of Deng. Changing tactics isn't revisionism, attempting to rewrite history is.

            • fuckwit [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              definitely worth dealing with and not entirely revisionist and crumbling.

              proceeds to explain how 'changing tactics' ie comprehensive capitalist reform isn't revisionism.

              All you're doing is using marketing language.

              • crime [she/her, any]
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                3 years ago

                Blaming the Sino-Soviet split on Deng is revisionist. If we're looking at results, China still exists and the communist project there is doing great. Have you checked in on the USSR recently?

                • fuckwit [none/use name]
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                  3 years ago

                  What's revisionist is criticising USSR for deStalinization and then proceeding to do the same thing to Mao's policies.

                  China still exists and the communist project there is doing great.

                  A project so dead that Xi is being praised for attempting to revive it. It's going great.

  • DetroitLolcat [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Castro's probably the right answer but both of Ilhan's answers are good.

  • asaharyev [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I feel like commenters here are forgetting someone... :evo:

    • Vncredleader
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      3 years ago

      Yeah but he wasn't killed early on or arrested for reformism so we cannot praise him

        • crime [she/her, any]
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          3 years ago

          That would mean confronting the fact that the cia murdering him was bad so probably not

          • carbohydra [des/pair]
            ·
            3 years ago

            They can just conveniently gloss over that and do some finger wagging at Pinochet, like they do with many other things

        • Nagarjuna [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          I've met libs who praised his criticism of the excesses of the communist movement that put him in power

          • Vncredleader
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            edit-2
            3 years ago

            Which is strange considering the communist movement was proven correct and then some.

            Glory to the Manuel Rodriguez Patriotic Front and those who joined it despite their party being forced underground already and their lives threatened. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjGyjkMt3kw

            edit: we need a FPMR emote