love that this guy's pivoting to just getting anti vegan brownie points by passing laws that effectively do nothing except inconvenience soy milk companies, really hitting all the boxes on the grifter arc bingo
"Capitalism breeds innovation...unless your products are done to accomodate a certain unpopular moral lifestyle, then we will use the government to sabotage you to protect our already established capitalists!"
They've done this in the UK. It's all oat drink, and soy drink, because animal product consumers are so fragile they hate the thought of people enjoying things that don't include animal products.
They tried to ban veggie sausages from being called sausages FFS...
They tried to ban veggie sausages from being called sausages
It's so wild that they can brand their mystery meat tubes whatever the fuck they want, like, in my country you can call a sausage a "veal liver sausage" if there is 0% actual baby cow liver inside, but the monent you call a sausage-shaped piece of soy with a common sausage spice mix that's supposed to be prepared like a sausage anfd that tastes so similar to sausage that i don't want to eat it a "veggie sausage", you've crossed a red line and are "misleading the consumer" because they could accidentally buy murder-free treats.
It's so fuckin' weird, just reminds me of how cheesemakers back in the day demanded that American cheese be referred to as embalmed cheese
Processed cheese was the compromise
When margarine was first introduced, dairy farmers lobbied against allowing it to be colored yellow to look like butter so the margarine manufacturers had to include a little packet of yellow food dye and you had to mix it in yourself.
I'm from the state where it's illegal for restaurants to serve margarine unless you specifically ask for it
I am very familiar with the stuff
They did the same in Denmark, and then when milk sales didn't pick up (because why the fuck would they?) they tried to move into the market with their own brand called "Jörd" (meaning eärth/dïrt). It's a shitty product though, so people don't buy it. The commercials are funny though, because you can just see how a boardroom full of farmers designed it. "Yeah it's hippy shit, throw in some words about nature and some hot hippy chick. That'll get them!"
I agree with this. I understand why everything was branded as a meat replacement, but that just lead to the promise of meat taste and texture that I don't think has ever been satisfyingly achieved. "Oat drink" tells you what you're getting so your average meat-pilled flesh-maxxer doesn't feel betrayed. It can be enjoyed on it's own merits.
That was my experience when I was veggie for a few years; Meat substitutes weren't good substitutes and I didn't start to enjoy them until I learned to appreciate them on their own merits.
Except for the fact that we have been referring to liquid from plants as "milk" for centuries. Nobody batted an eye at soy milk in all these years, but suddenly it's supposedly weird or trying to replace cow milk... It's just not. I get the issue with branding vegan food as a meat replacement, but plant milk was never that.
Aren't they technically genitals. Male/female/both. It should be soy spunk, or soy squirt.
If you buy oat milk and expect some sort of cow milk you should lose your driving license
The trick to vegan cooking is to not focus on what is "missing"
Word. Tofu was gross until I stopped trying to use it as a substitute and realized I could marinate it and get a delicious result.
Truth. Folks need to learn from the people that invented and eat the stuff for hundreds of years.
Just don't ask which country invented which thing unless it's clearly and undisputibly from there. Aka don't ask who invented dubu/doufu/tofu
I'm all for product labelling being accurate and not misleading consumers but no person in their right mind is going to buy something that says "soy milk" on the label, expecting to get a dairy-based product.
: "We are WASPs! We are the master race and genetically superior to you in every way! Sorry, but the Bell Curve sez Im a genius!"Also
: "Someone rename vegan sausages to something other than sausages! I'm too stupid to know they're not made of meat and therefore that's everyone's problem!"
This qualifies Fetterman as an offically cartoonish clown.
https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/549/text?s=1&r=29
Defending Against Imitations and Replacements of Yogurt, milk, and cheese to Promote Regular Intake of Dairy Everyday
You can't just skip entire words for the sake of an acronym! I'm irrationally angry at this!
The WWE used to have an event called the ARMBAR which was short for Andre Roussimoff Memorial BAttle Royal
nah, complete reddit backronym: it was only ever officially called the "Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal", people just wanted to work it into ARMBAR because of Jericho's list of 1004 holds
I'm pretty sure WWE themselves shortened it to "ARMBAR" several times, but looking for it now you're right, I can't find a place they've done that.
Like it's doubly stupid because it gives up the ghost that the only reason it's being discussed is that the people making this bill have an axe to grind against vegan alternatives, and "promote regular intake of dairy"? For most of the world, that's zero.
I'm tired of hearing sob stories about dairy company owners and how they need "our help" but it's suddenly "handouts are for the weak" when I suggest that maybe we should look into making housing or education or medicine or even food NOT luxury goods.
It’s one of the things chat gpt is quite good at. I wouldn’t be surprised if a staffer hasn’t figured that out as well
Doing anything about abortion, trans rights or stopping a FUCKING GENOCIDE?!?
Nah, gotta rename "Oak Milk" to "Oak Milk-like product"
Currently playing through Dead Cows and having a hard time doing 1 boss star runs
: Sorry, but doing the right thing makes the WhItE wOrKiNg ClAsS uncomfortable and will cost us big time on election day!
Making Acronyms a punishable offense in the post-capitalist utopia.
Noooo please let me keep my acronyms, I want to force every researcher to spend hours working through backronyms so they can give a cool name to their new type of wart removal cream or whatever.
The bill passes, soy milk rebrands itself as doujiang - a traditional nutritious drink from China, its popularity explodes, the dairy reign of terror ends
The good ending. That also reminds me of ganmodoki (pseudo-goose). Just call vegan meat modoki and market it as a traditional Japanese health food and let the weebs do the rest. Vegan beef becomes Ushimodoki, any pork products becomes butamodoki, poultry is kakinmodoki, and finally seafood is Sakanamodoki.
Ganmodoki runs into the same problem as vegan goose. It still uses the noun goose, and carnists don't recognize the existence of adjectives.
Yes I know they're all being dishonest, Sartre
Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
Although using Japanese words to refer to vegan meats would be interesting. English already uses French words to refer to meats instead of calling things animal-flesh. It wouldn't be unprecedented.
If you ever supported this guy, please raise your hand so we can publicly mock you. This is your penance.
It's okay to be fooled by his mesmerizingly large body, but we still gonna mock you
The trick is to be nakedly cynical towards everyone so that nobody can ever accuse you of having hope for a brighter future.
Honestly, now that I think about it...
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Liz Warren
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Krysten Sinema
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Kristen Gilibrand
and now this.
It increasingly feels like the more left-posturing candidates are deliberately rigged to explode in voters' faces.
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\raises hand
I am so, so sorry. I just saw another giant and got excited.
Not in the primary, there was someone better, but I'm pretty sure I filled his circle on the general election ballot... it was this chucklefuck or Mehmet Oz.
Yeah honestly voting for him to prevent one of the worst grifters of all time from winning a senate seat is understadable.
Who was the better candidate in the primary though? Just curious.
Can I use the lib defense that I thought he’d be less awful than Dr. Oz?
i can't not think of IDF Cum Squads when someone mentions man-milking smh my head
First they came for the oat milk Then they came for the milk of magnesia Then they came for the milkweed... Then they came for me (milky complexion).
I wonder what % of people look at a soy milk carton and think "it's milk! says so right on the label"
Is... is he making the "almonds don't have tits" bit from The Ranch into public policy?
I am sorry that you had to see that show. My roommate watches it over and over and over. He's cycled through the whole thing so many times. Its awful.
This proposal is blatantly antisemitic, effectively genociding the IOF corpse milking squad by banning their name. Fetterman is worse than Hitler, almost as bad as Corbyn.
CALLING LIQUID FROM PLANTS "MILK" IS NOT A NEW CONCEPT YOU FUCKING MORON AND PEOPLE AREN'T BUYING PLANT MILK BECAUSE THEY THINK IT'LL TASTE LIKE COWS MILK IN FACT MOST PEOPLE BUY IT SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE IT DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME QUALITIES AS COWS MILK YOU IDIOT YOU FUCKING IMBECILE YOU ABSOLUT DOOFUS I AM BEGGING YOU TO GO LOOK INTO THIS SHIT JUST ONCE BEFORE YOU SPOUT SOMETHING THIS DUMB. STOP CONTROLLING MY LANGUAGE
I don't know a lot about the english "milk"-word but I do know a bit about its germanic root and at least there "milk" might even first have referred to liquid from plants, and THEN we transferred it to also entail that from animals. Seens like there is a case for that in english, since the usage in the 1200's meant "Milk might even first have referred to liquid from plants, and THEN we transferred it to also entail that from animals."
And we know "soy milk" has been a thing since the 1880's. AHHHHH
INAV and i buy rice milk sometimes for its unique taste and nostalgia (mom used to but it).
Yeah I'm not vegan either but I exclusively buy plant milk because I prefer the taste and texture and I don't feel bloated after drinking.
Same I hardly use milk, but high fat oat milk just foams better.
This is so fucking stupid. Yeah, people are just too dumb to understand that soy milk and almond milk contain no dairy. Are you gonna rename peanut butter? There's no more pressing issue than renaming shit. These people need to be hit in the head.
Are you gonna rename peanut butter?
Several EU countries with strong agriculture lobbies have laws like this on the books, and that usually leads to peanut butter being renamed peanut spread or peanut pulp.
Call me a reactionary all you want, but I'll die before calling it "peanut pulp". That just sounds like agriculture waste.
What's funny is that Chinese is such an efficient language that the hot topic English naming debates aren't nearly as present since whoever named these things are as direct as possible.
Peanut butter = 花生酱 = peanut paste
Soy milk = 豆浆 = soy starch
Does it result in higher butter sales? Or are they wasting their lobbying bucks making things worse to the benefit of literally nobody?
It sure doesn't stop people from going vegan, i think this is entirely performative and doesn't do anything of actual material value.
End genocide?
Best I can do is insult the LGBTQ community and consumers who look past the 100% vegan, NON-DAIRY bragging marks on packages of nut juice.
I think almond milk has been termed as such since basically it's first use
I mean, the only other thing you could call it is "almond juice", but even thinking that phrase is enough to make me vomit in my mouth.
I always thought it was weird that lefties got behind this guy when I remember him years back on the Colbert show bragging about the public-private partnerships he had pulled off. Like it was good he had helped his town and all, but it wasn't in anyway Left.
https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130306219
In my case; It's just really hard to track down the political histories of every "progressive" that pops up. I need to remind myself; The only curse that Pandora managed to capture before it could escape the box was Hope.
ive never understood that
are we free from hope? Like, able to stop feeling it? Or do we only have hope because it's still in the box?
Somehow it never clicked for me that hope is meant to be curse too.
I interpret it as hope being a passive acceptance of the other curses. if you're hoping you've already given up. It's kind of a 'take heart, fortify, rally, you don't have to fall back on hope, these evils can be conquered" thing.
is a prison. Ancaps will tell you with a straight face that it's not government or taxation as long as it's not officially either.
Government mandating that my Almond Milk now be called Almond Squeezins'
real monkey's paw moment when Fetterman accidentally unleashes the new product line of plant-based cums on the yankoid populace
I'll be disappointed if a plant milk company doesn't start selling the exact same packages, but with "milk" hastily crossed out and words like m*lk, product, water, squeezin', CUM, "m*lk replacement for people who don't want extra estrogen" until some of them go viral.
Finally, people who abuse cows for a living can do it without shame 🥰
give me all your east asian food
: "It's not political correctness when WE do it!"
