• Flyberius [comrade/them]
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      11 months ago

      They've done this in the UK. It's all oat drink, and soy drink, because animal product consumers are so fragile they hate the thought of people enjoying things that don't include animal products.

      They tried to ban veggie sausages from being called sausages FFS...

      • MechanizedPossum [she/her]
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        11 months ago

        They tried to ban veggie sausages from being called sausages

        It's so wild that they can brand their mystery meat tubes whatever the fuck they want, like, in my country you can call a sausage a "veal liver sausage" if there is 0% actual baby cow liver inside, but the monent you call a sausage-shaped piece of soy with a common sausage spice mix that's supposed to be prepared like a sausage anfd that tastes so similar to sausage that i don't want to eat it a "veggie sausage", you've crossed a red line and are "misleading the consumer" because they could accidentally buy murder-free treats.

      • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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        11 months ago

        It's so fuckin' weird, just reminds me of how cheesemakers back in the day demanded that American cheese be referred to as embalmed cheese

        Processed cheese was the compromise

        • buckykat [none/use name]
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          11 months ago

          When margarine was first introduced, dairy farmers lobbied against allowing it to be colored yellow to look like butter so the margarine manufacturers had to include a little packet of yellow food dye and you had to mix it in yourself.

          • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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            11 months ago

            I'm from the state where it's illegal for restaurants to serve margarine unless you specifically ask for it

            I am very familiar with the stuff

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      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        11 months ago

        I agree with this. I understand why everything was branded as a meat replacement, but that just lead to the promise of meat taste and texture that I don't think has ever been satisfyingly achieved. "Oat drink" tells you what you're getting so your average meat-pilled flesh-maxxer doesn't feel betrayed. It can be enjoyed on it's own merits.

        That was my experience when I was veggie for a few years; Meat substitutes weren't good substitutes and I didn't start to enjoy them until I learned to appreciate them on their own merits.

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        • 7bicycles [he/him]
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          11 months ago

          If you buy oat milk and expect some sort of cow milk you should lose your driving license

          • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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            11 months ago

            Word. Tofu was gross until I stopped trying to use it as a substitute and realized I could marinate it and get a delicious result.

            • Alaskaball [comrade/them]A
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              11 months ago

              Truth. Folks need to learn from the people that invented and eat the stuff for hundreds of years.

              Just don't ask which country invented which thing unless it's clearly and undisputibly from there. Aka don't ask who invented dubu/doufu/tofu

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        11 months ago

        I'm all for product labelling being accurate and not misleading consumers but no person in their right mind is going to buy something that says "soy milk" on the label, expecting to get a dairy-based product.

      • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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        11 months ago

        frothingfash: "We are WASPs! We are the master race and genetically superior to you in every way! Sorry, but the Bell Curve sez Im a genius!"

        Also frothingfash: "Someone rename vegan sausages to something other than sausages! I'm too stupid to know they're not made of meat and therefore that's everyone's problem!"

  • HornyOnMain
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    11 months ago

    love that this guy's pivoting to just getting anti vegan brownie points by passing laws that effectively do nothing except inconvenience soy milk companies, really hitting all the boxes on the grifter arc bingo

    • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      "Capitalism breeds innovation...unless your products are done to accomodate a certain unpopular moral lifestyle, then we will use the government to sabotage you to protect our already established capitalists!"

  • geese_feces [comrade/them, love/loves]
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    11 months ago

    https://www.congress.gov/bill/118th-congress/senate-bill/549/text?s=1&r=29

    Defending Against Imitations and Replacements of Yogurt, milk, and cheese to Promote Regular Intake of Dairy Everyday

    • Crowtee_Robot [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      You can't just skip entire words for the sake of an acronym! I'm irrationally angry at this!

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        • Mindfury [he/him]
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          11 months ago

          nah, complete reddit backronym: it was only ever officially called the "Andre the Giant Memorial Battle Royal", people just wanted to work it into ARMBAR because of Jericho's list of 1004 holds

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      • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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        11 months ago

        Like it's doubly stupid because it gives up the ghost that the only reason it's being discussed is that the people making this bill have an axe to grind against vegan alternatives, and "promote regular intake of dairy"? For most of the world, that's zero.

        I'm tired of hearing sob stories about dairy company owners and how they need "our help" but it's suddenly "handouts are for the weak" when I suggest that maybe we should look into making housing or education or medicine or even food NOT luxury goods.

    • Beaver [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      Congressional staffers must have degrees in backronyming.

      • GinAndJuche
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        11 months ago

        It’s one of the things chat gpt is quite good at. I wouldn’t be surprised if a staffer hasn’t figured that out as well

    • MayoPete [he/him, comrade/them]
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      11 months ago

      Doing anything about abortion, trans rights or stopping a FUCKING GENOCIDE?!?

      Nah, gotta rename "Oak Milk" to "Oak Milk-like product"

      • Yurt_Owl
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        11 months ago

        Milk-like is my favourite game genre

      • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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        11 months ago

        maybe-later-kiddo: Sorry, but doing the right thing makes the WhItE wOrKiNg ClAsS uncomfortable and will cost us big time on election day!

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      11 months ago

      Making Acronyms a punishable offense in the post-capitalist utopia.

      • barrbaric [he/him]
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        11 months ago

        Noooo please let me keep my acronyms, I want to force every researcher to spend hours working through backronyms so they can give a cool name to their new type of wart removal cream or whatever.

  • iridaniotter [she/her]
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    11 months ago

    lathe-of-heaven

    The bill passes, soy milk rebrands itself as doujiang - a traditional nutritious drink from China, its popularity explodes, the dairy reign of terror ends

    • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      The good ending. That also reminds me of ganmodoki (pseudo-goose). Just call vegan meat modoki and market it as a traditional Japanese health food and let the weebs do the rest. Vegan beef becomes Ushimodoki, any pork products becomes butamodoki, poultry is kakinmodoki, and finally seafood is Sakanamodoki.

      • iridaniotter [she/her]
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        11 months ago

        Ganmodoki runs into the same problem as vegan goose. It still uses the noun goose, and carnists don't recognize the existence of adjectives.

        Yes I know they're all being dishonest, Sartre

        Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

        Although using Japanese words to refer to vegan meats would be interesting. English already uses French words to refer to meats instead of calling things animal-flesh. It wouldn't be unprecedented.

  • electric_nan@lemmy.ml
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    11 months ago

    First they came for the oat milk Then they came for the milk of magnesia Then they came for the milkweed... Then they came for me (milky complexion).

  • Infamousblt [any]
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    11 months ago

    If you ever supported this guy, please raise your hand so we can publicly mock you. This is your penance.

  • RoabeArt [he/him]
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    11 months ago

    Is... is he making the "almonds don't have tits" bit from The Ranch into public policy?

    • autismdragon [he/him, they/them]
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      11 months ago

      I am sorry that you had to see that show. My roommate watches it over and over and over. He's cycled through the whole thing so many times. Its awful.

  • SoyViking [he/him]
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    11 months ago

    This proposal is blatantly antisemitic, effectively genociding the IOF corpse milking squad by banning their name. Fetterman is worse than Hitler, almost as bad as Corbyn.

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  • Bnova [he/him]
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    11 months ago

    This is so fucking stupid. Yeah, people are just too dumb to understand that soy milk and almond milk contain no dairy. Are you gonna rename peanut butter? There's no more pressing issue than renaming shit. These people need to be hit in the head.

    • MechanizedPossum [she/her]
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      11 months ago

      Are you gonna rename peanut butter?

      Several EU countries with strong agriculture lobbies have laws like this on the books, and that usually leads to peanut butter being renamed peanut spread or peanut pulp.

      • SpiderFarmer [he/him]
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        11 months ago

        Call me a reactionary all you want, but I'll die before calling it "peanut pulp". That just sounds like agriculture waste.

        • CloutAtlas [he/him]
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          11 months ago

          What's funny is that Chinese is such an efficient language that the hot topic English naming debates aren't nearly as present since whoever named these things are as direct as possible.

          Peanut butter = 花生酱 = peanut paste

          Soy milk = 豆浆 = soy starch

      • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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        11 months ago

        Does it result in higher butter sales? Or are they wasting their lobbying bucks making things worse to the benefit of literally nobody?

        • MechanizedPossum [she/her]
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          11 months ago

          It sure doesn't stop people from going vegan, i think this is entirely performative and doesn't do anything of actual material value.

    • Evilphd666 [he/him, comrade/them]
      cake
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      11 months ago

      End genocide?

      Best I can do is insult the LGBTQ community and consumers who look past the 100% vegan, NON-DAIRY bragging marks on packages of nut juice. hamas-base

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      • CrushKillDestroySwag
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        11 months ago

        I mean, the only other thing you could call it is "almond juice", but even thinking that phrase is enough to make me vomit in my mouth.

  • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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    11 months ago

    I always thought it was weird that lefties got behind this guy when I remember him years back on the Colbert show bragging about the public-private partnerships he had pulled off. Like it was good he had helped his town and all, but it wasn't in anyway Left.

    https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=130306219

    • RNAi [he/him]
      hexagon
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      11 months ago

      Idk imagine living in Pennsylvania

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      11 months ago

      In my case; It's just really hard to track down the political histories of every "progressive" that pops up. I need to remind myself; The only curse that Pandora managed to capture before it could escape the box was Hope.

      • Wheaties [she/her]
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        11 months ago

        ive never understood that

        are we free from hope? Like, able to stop feeling it? Or do we only have hope because it's still in the box?

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          11 months ago

          I interpret it as hope being a passive acceptance of the other curses. if you're hoping you've already given up. It's kind of a 'take heart, fortify, rally, you don't have to fall back on hope, these evils can be conquered" thing.

    • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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      11 months ago

      amerikkka is a prison. Ancaps will tell you with a straight face that it's not government or taxation as long as it's not officially either.

  • LaughingLion [any, any]
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    11 months ago

    Government mandating that my Almond Milk now be called Almond Squeezins'

      • Mindfury [he/him]
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        11 months ago

        real monkey's paw moment when Fetterman accidentally unleashes the new product line of plant-based cums on the yankoid populace

          • alcoholicorn [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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            11 months ago

            I'll be disappointed if a plant milk company doesn't start selling the exact same packages, but with "milk" hastily crossed out and words like m*lk, product, water, squeezin', CUM, "m*lk replacement for people who don't want extra estrogen" until some of them go viral.

  • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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    11 months ago

    Finally, people who abuse cows for a living can do it without shame 🥰