i can't seem to help it, especially in this intro to sociology class. am i being short sighted for clearly displaying familiarity with, and affection for, marx? like..what happens to these discussion posts, and our papers for that matter? where do they go? do the capitalists get them?
We sure showed all those innocent people who had nothing to do with that event!
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kicked out as in was dropped from the class or just kicked out of the room?
You'll be fine.
Marxist sociology is a major school of thought that the American Sociological Association literally has a prize fund, lifetime achievement awards and a whole subcommittee dedicated to.
You're not going to be saying anything more radical than what your professor has read (and possible wrote!) in a journal this week.
Victoria 3 is 100% made by marxists. It is a game about historical materialism and managing the material conditions of your nation to get a desired outcome. Ideas in Victoria 3 come from the conditions the people live in, not the other way around.
In Hoi4 and EU4 countries gain arbritary bonuses for being specific countries, like Germany gaining massive boosts to their economy in Hoi4 just because they're Germany. It doesn't reflect the material conditions at all lol
Every Dev Diary has lined up neatly with the book I read about historical materialism
Maybe the professor will disagree with you and that could affect your mark if your arguments aren't well-made (I definitely mark right wingers down, but that's generally because their arguments are so bad - genuinely, they're usually just not very bright). Could also work the other way if your prof is a comrade, I'm definitely looking for excuses to give my left wing students as good a grade as I can justify. Nothing else will happen and there is zero chance that the paper will be read by anyone but your prof and maybe a second examiner if its chosen for moderation.
If you're making calls for violence or something, there's an outside chance that you could get reported to anti-terrorist authorities (in the UK at least there's a legal requirement for teachers to report this stuff to Prevent, but whether people do idk. These reporting systems are widely considered to be racist because they are pretty much designed to target Muslims). But you should know better than to do that in a university online forum anyway
I definitely mark right wingers down, but that’s generally because their arguments are so bad - genuinely, they’re usually just not very bright
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there HAS to be a smart one out there somewhere
The smart ones are smart enough to write a good leftwing argument. They don't disagree with materialism, they are just ok with being the "bad guy" because it benefits them.
Haha, I had a baby thumb as a student one time. This was during covid so I never had to interact with the guy, but he sure did have a thin blue line flag right behind him whenever he was on Zoom. At the end of the semester he was right on the line between a B and a C and I would have given him the C, just for being a chud, but unfortunately, I'd given a few other borderline cases the higher grade, so my teaching supervisor was like, why not bump this guy's grade up too? And I could hardly say, umm, he's a blue lives matter fuckhead, so he ended up with a B. If I hadn't been a grad student though, baby thumb would have gotten a C because of my ideological biases. And that should be unprofessional and shitty, but I honestly can't find the energy to care. Don't put a hate flag up behind where you're sitting on Zoom, shithead.
Damn, yeah, marking is so much worse when you have someone moderating every paper. I remember my first year teaching and it took fucking forever. When you no longer have someone over your shoulder, sometimes you just have to follow your heart and give a chud the lower grade. I've fortunately not had too many in my classes (or at least not vocal ones), although I did have one student that I thought was sound suddenly out themselves in class as a generation identitare loser, which sucked
Professors either don't care or don't have the bandwidth to care about students' politics.
So long as your posts do not derail discussions, nothing will happen.
yes i'm also paranoid about that happening so i try to make it sound like i'm just now having these revelations about society /marxism. i dont know how convincing it is though because i've been incessantly consuming marxist ideas for the past 6 months probably.....but i guess you'd have to be familiar with it too to recognize it!
Rehearse conversations in your head with others before putting them out there in public.
Chew on your thoughts for awhile and make them jive with the flow of the class's discussion and you'll be fine.
Having taken intro to sociology myself, it was not super opposed to Marxism as a concept, just dont expect any support for the whole changing rather than interpreting thing
Call out Durkheim and Weber for being racist, play up how cool WEB DuBois is. I definitely know communist sociologists, so you're not necessarily going to get got for being based.
yeah, sociology/anthropology/archaeology profs are usually libs at their worst and marxist analysis is fairly well regarded
It's fine. Only way to radicalize people is to expose them to ideas and a class discussion board is a good place this share these ideas.
Just be polite and don't talk down to people. Also don't call for any specific illegal action.
This is part of the ideological filter system that reproduces the PMC and their outlook. Of course if you argue too much with a prof who leans too far right he can fuck up your shit, but in general professors will just give you a worse grade if they think you're going out of bounds on the prompt. They will say that you're "not thinking like a sociologist/historian/whatever" and few if any of their colleagues would disagree with them. If that happens often enough they won't support you for professional jobs, and you can drop into work that requires less ideological discipline and thus allows less creativity on the job.
As for the electronic surveillance aspect, it's probably no worse or better than any other corporate web thing.
Edit: maybe less relevant for sociology than other fields (law for fucking sure) now that I'm reading other comments, but still
Here's my take as an openly Marxist professor, don't hurt yourself with it.
Like, your professor probably won't get mad at you, and you're not gonna get woodchippered by feds or anything, the main concern I have is just being too "always on" about it to the point where you're always stressed and upset, or where you're alienating yourself from the rest of the students and making it impossible to have friends.
Political Science. I'm not actively teaching classes atm but last year I taught a "capitalism vs communism and everything in-between" class on comparative political theory, which I mostly spent having to repeatedly re-explain what communism actually means, why it's not just "is a dictatorship with red" and that anarchism isn't just "heehoo chaos" to random boomers sitting in on the class without actually being enrolled.
to random boomers sitting in on the class without actually being enrolled.
Wait what?
Virtually all universities allow people to audit classes, and it's not exactly as though there's a keycard or an armed guard at the classroom door preventing people from just walking in. A pretty significant number of universities, including the university I teach at, allow people to audit classes for free, all you have to do is just walk in and sit down. You're not graded, and you're not getting homework or anything, but you can just sit down and learn. Some universities have started allowing older people, 55+ or usually 65+ just go right on in and take classes at a significant discount, or even for free.
There's this little cadre of boomers on campus that has a great little time taking a bunch of free classes here, but they also don't really give a shit about anything and will just also badger student orgs or random classes they don't like the idea of. A couple of them have gotten banned from the student union building because they kept harassing minority student orgs. They're like fat, balding middle school bullies. My experience with them is mostly just having a couple of them sit in the back of my classroom and try and crack jokes. I swear to god, it's like something out of a sketch comedy show or something.
Shit sucks cause its really cool to be able to just go and learn without stress but I guess the only people with free time are jackasses that don't care that everyone that paid for the classes is really fuckin irritated by the dumbshit disruptive questions.
I mean, I generally teach and want to teach mostly grad-level courses for political science, public policy, and public administration students, primarily on political theory and connections and applications with economic theories, which isn't often super helpful for the average person, but I've had a couple of undergrad econ majors and even one person who wasn't enrolled in any classes take courses I taught, and all of them were super polite.
That's actually really unique! Sounds like something I'd like to sit in on.
I've been considering reformatting some of my stuff into video form or even doing like "lecture stream" formats, I'm just kinda nervous to put myself out there like that.
Definitely has some privacy issues for yourself. I've been thinking about that issue (for a while) and if I come up with a solution I'll share it with you.
I've been considering getting a Vtuber model for it but I don't know that that's even sufficient
I think the issue'd probably be that someone could take your lecture material and match it up to your work/identity.
you do not, under any circumstances, "gotta hand it to them"
My sociological professor is an open marxist and my environment lal science peofessor once told a story about how she had to resist shooting herself after the rest of the faculty made her cry for the 6th time in a week
As long as you make your arguments well, and arent like explicitly "communism will win", using marxist concepts is perfectly fine in any sociology class. Of course, if you know your proffesor is a chud, tone it down a bit, but even then its unlikely they will care too much, and only mark down if your paper is actually written badly.
