At a retail business based in New York, managers were distressed to encounter young employees who wanted paid time off when coping with anxiety or period cramps. At a supplement company, a Gen Z worker questioned why she would be expected to clock in for a standard eight-hour day when she might get through her to-do list by the afternoon. At a biotech venture, entry-level staff members delegated tasks to the founder. And spanning sectors and start-ups, the youngest members of the work force have demanded what they see as a long overdue shift away from corporate neutrality toward a more open expression of values, whether through executives displaying their pronouns on Slack or putting out statements in support of the protests for Black Lives Matter.
Pretty sure this is just made up bullshit, mostly because it seems like it's recycling content from when millenials entered the job market, lol.
Yeah, I remember reading this exact article 10 years ago about millennials. The whole generation discourse is a bad way of looking at politics.
I was told my whole life that millennials would fix all of our problems because we were the young new generation, yet here we are :shrug-outta-hecks:
Zoomers as a generation won’t be our saviors either
The best part is how they managed to work "milennials snowflake" into a headline about cool zoomers.
:shocked-pikachu:
I mean it's true that people born in certain time periods are going to have fundamentally different worldviews, but it's something that shifts in a continuous way and doesn't fit these extremely well defined buckets. The only "generations" that make sense from a practical standpoint are the boomers and millenials since they correspond to noticeable birth rate increases and declines, and thus have some public policy implications. But for the most part it's marketing bullshit that we all decided to believe.
Good! I hope the youfths demand more. Don't be a sucker like me when I was your age! Cheat the clock! Steal office supplies! Bully your boss!
I once took a pen from work and forgot to give it back am I based????
"You are only exploited under capitalism if you don't steal enough office supplies from the supply closet and sugar packets from the coffee station." -Karl Marx Capital Vol.3
I once took 2 cupcakes instead of 1 from the break room because everyone else already had one
lmao even the most straight laced employee at work is still occasionally like, "oops I forgot to take some ingredients home!" and proceeds to steal some heavy cream so he can make ice cream later. Watched one of my favorite ladies straight just take a carton of oatmilk and a couple of pastries on her way out. (way out of work that day not quitting).
:comrade-raccoon:
managers were distressed to encounter young employees who wanted paid time off when coping with anxiety or period cramps
If employees rightfully wanting paid time off for medical issues “distresses” you, kindly consider putting a bullet through your frontal lobe
imagine how distressed those managers will be in northern Alaska :gulag:
Those managers really need to have some weight taken off their shoulders.
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Lmao how many 37 year olds are employing people? 00.0001%?
Millennials are poor as shit. Companies are mostly run by boomers and Gen X
I've never had a boss under 50. Then again I've never worked in an office.
Fucking rich ass upper-middle class thinking they're the norm lmao.
Lmao how many 37 year olds are employing people? 00.0001%?
Only one I can think of is my cousin who's poised to inherit his dad's business when he retires, which will then be passed onto his daughter.
Hey just think, my cousin's kid gets to be a fierce girlboss in a couple decades. Glass ceiling? Totally smashed 😤
i had a manager who was mid thirties get put in charge of expanding a new group within the company. He did it, he did it fast and well and it became too much for him to handle and he somehow was able to tell the big guys "nah i'm not doing this anymore" and got put back into a technical role where he can just work and go home and see his kid. I was honestly glad to see it because the guy was a hollowed out shell of his former self and was not built to be a manager at that scale. He was a genuinely nice guy who'd fight for his people as much as he could though.
It definitely happens but its also a weird edge case. Usually the high up managers are just bumbling boomers who don't know how to PDF but the company went through a huge organization flattening right before he came in, essentially getting rid of around half the managers in the company because they somewhat correctly identified where the waste was coming from. Downside was the new manager was told to expand and he did and went from 20 people under him to nearly 90 and literally did not have enough time in the day to do all his management duties and everyone suffered because no one could get a moment from him to help with something.
That's so interesting because you are basically describing my boss. He hasn't gotten to that last part yet. Mid-30s, very smart. He turned our entire department around because all of the previous managers either retired or died. He's been promoted several times, genuinely cares about all of us and many of the changes he made were just a matter of stopping the "well, we just do x because we've always done that."
But, yeah, I genuinely worry he's going to burn out. He has a lot on his plate and I he's the only good manager I've ever had. I think he would probably enjoy a more technical role as well.
The people who should be managers care too much and burn themselves out or get taken advantage of, and the people who shouldn't strive on the stress and power.
It's a catch 22 where you can't have a good manager because good managers end up leaving and stop being managers.
One of the partners at my workplace had a breakdown and was on sick leave for months because the stress of management was too much for him. Now he's back in a technical role with no management duties and he's much happier than before.
Yeah I've had people senior to me ask where I see my career going and if I want more responsibility or to become a manager and I'm very blunt in telling them I don't want any additional responsibility. I only live one life, there's little point in burning myself out when I'm young when the chance I'll make enough to retire early is slim but the negative health effects are very definite.
entry-level staff members delegated tasks to the founder.
I like how we're approaching a level of failchildren that are so insanely bad at their job entry level staff can delegate tasks to them. You literally had one job and it's making other people do your work, how the fuck did you fail?
Boss makes a dollar, I make a dime, that's why I delegate on company time
Well that can't be right can it? They're founders, not workers. And they already did the founding! Job's done!
At a biotech venture, entry-level staff members delegated tasks to the founder.
King shit
Neoliberal scumfuckers at the failing NYT trying to create artificial divides among workers. Generations aren't real.
GenZ doing situationist praxis by just all collectively pretending that the rules don't exist and testing the limits of the modern control systems.
It's kinda great because they're so atrophied and weak that even like 3 or 4 employees that just start telling management what to do can unravel their power.
The article itself is mostly high-salary PMC hand-wringing nonsense, but as an aside I gotta say being in your early 30s is very weird. You're young to the Olds and old to the Youngs and mostly you just feel gross in whatever company you keep.
I mean, I'm in my mid-30s and I've found plenty of people of all demographics to socialize with. Its definitely weird to think about my friend from High School having a kid as old as we were when we met. But I hardly feel gross about it.
Boo :trans-specter: :trans-specter: :trans-specter:
this was the natural order of things until the boomers got old
Oh, the boomers are plenty terrified, they just got the terror early and brutally sabotaged those younger than them to ensure they could never be more powerful
This is just the elites trying to stoke ill will between two generations that are inheriting a dying planet from their ballistic parents and grand parents.
I know generational politics is bad but boy oh boy did the boomers sacrifice their kids on the altar of capitalism for that middle class lifestyle.
Boomers are like the only actual generation that exists as a discrete phenomenon that can be observed and measured. Everything else is bullshit.
boomers are a creation that began with the boomer generation but whose specific type of brainworms will carry forward into the future for a long time. it's like a new strain of the same old settler-colonialist brainworms, and it will be around as long as the system that incentivizes those beliefs is still in power.
This critique of the Boomers at least has a grain of material basis to it, unlike the slop they print in the media about Millenials ruining the housing market by buying too many lattes. It still lets the real criminals off the hook though. Flogging the Boomers won't put Bezos's head on a pike.
No it won't and we can't forget that there's poor boomers too, like my mom for example. It's just as a whole generational class, boomers by and large are absolute scumbags will to sell their own children up the river.
They might be the first generation in human history to not only NOT work to make things better for younger generations, but to actively make future generations worse off because "muh no free ride"
Boomers have all the wealth. They are a class of their own. Generational politics is solidly a thing now. Marx may have said this or that about it but that was hundreds of years ago.
Boomers have to go and we are apporaching a point where it might have to be by force.
Boomers have to go and we are apporaching a point where it might have to be by force.
way past that point, in my opinion
I can't see this article as anything other than an attempt to sow discord between millennials and Gen Z. Fuck that.
Can't fool me, crooked New York Times - I dream of the day that the zoomer vanguard puts me up on the wall
It's kinda true though, I managed to get myself a $3 raise after a few months and realized that all the older/30 something's that started before me never asked for one and were making less so I told them to ask for raises and they got them...
I don't think it's necessarily a generationally unique thing, just that younger workers are more energetic and not totally beat down by the system.
Which is why younger workers need to start organizing the olds.
The body 37 year old manager was found after he apparently angry-soy-faced to death, purportedly caused by a 20 year old intern telling him that "marvel sucks" and "the avengers are cops".
Let's see, we have a nice collection here: An apparel brand, a couple of supplement startups, a retail business selling shitty drop shipped items through a trendy for 2007 website.
This entire article is:
"I'm an upper class college educated 'entrepreneur' that received
an advance from the trust funda loan for my shitty startup, and managed to 'hustle' some VC's into a round or two. I'm absolutely shocked that these poors don't want to slave themselves for this once in a lifetime opportunity at my company that I totally intend on running for decades and in no way looking for the first exit possible via corporate buyout."
