If you have any useful resource links please tag me in a comment with the link.
Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict
Please add to this if you can.
Links
Time/Map: https://time.is/Ukraine
https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ukraine/@49.1162725,31.7993839,7z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x40d1d9c154700e8f:0x1068488f64010!8m2!3d48.379433!4d31.1655799?hl=en
Leftist discussion threads:
https://hexbear.net/post/177324
https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/t03foy/genzedong_russiaukraine_master_discussion_thread/
https://lemmygrad.ml/
Twitter military updaters:
https://nitter.net/ASBMilitary
https://nitter.net/Militarylandnet
https://nitter.net/MihajlovicMike
https://nitter.net/KofmanMichael
https://nitter.net/TadeuszGiczan/status/1498673348183744518
Global South Perspective: https://nitter.net/kiranopal_/status/1498723206496145413
Better war/propaganda analysis:
https://www.understandingwar.org
https://www.moonofalabama.org/
News updates:
https://www.cgtn.com/special/UkraineCrisis.html
Live: https://www.cgtn.com/special/Live-update-Ukraine-Russia-border-crisis.html
YT/Video in Ukraine:
https://www.youtube.com/c/PatrickLancasterNewsToday/videos
https://www.youtube.com/c/RussellBentleyTe
Thank you.
Previous megathreads:
I haven't seen Reddit be this unusable barbaric since 2016. That place is like our collective ex.
THIS IS THE FIRST TIME SINCE WARLD WAR II WE’VE SEEN WHITE PEOPLE DYING ON TV THIS IS SO TRAGIC
Zelensky could eat a Russian baby on live TV and Redditors would find an excuse to support him.
https://twitter.com/KFC_ES/status/1498684137879842833?t=YilbPSa6Oxb-WaxuccrfCw&s=19
I'm sorry sir. Please keep your limbs within the ride at all times.
I blocked terms like "ukraine," "russia," "putin" etc and the front page is down to like 3 posts at any given time and usually at least one of them was also about the war but didn't have a title that was explicit about it lol.
Even niche hobby subs have Ukraine shit plastered in them because mods don't enforce no politics rules during war fervor.
They'd probably kick out mods who interfered in the US propaganda campaign. As "Russian disinformation spreading assets", of course.
I tried it, the front page is still full of this shit because people write fucking inspiration quotes in the title instead of what it is.
Ukrainian special operations command posted on social media that they will not accept surrender of Russian artillery crews and that said crews would be killed regardless.
Declaration of no quarter like this is universally considered a war crime.
There are some limited allowances for Reprisals. By declaring who/what/why in an official capacity, they are actually somewhat within "legalised warcrime" territory.
Yes. I know... Rules Based Warcrimes for the Rules Based Order.
Only if they can prove that Russian Artillery wasn't aiming at military or militia positions. Which, given the Ukraine has called for general armament of the civilian populace, will be pretty hard to do.
BREAKING: The United States is contemplating whether it should impose or waive sanctions on India over its relationship with Russia through the "countering America's adversaries through sanctions act", a senior US diplomat commented.
Lol. Putin fuck Uncle Sam indo-pacific plan hard
You're stocking up on food and water in case of a nuclear attack, I'm stocking up on ECC ram so my game doesn't crash due to the radiation. We are not the same.
The country that invaded Iraq and murdered like a million people, is actively supporting genocide in Yemen, has special forces troops in like every country in Africa, and has been saber rattling with every nuclear power except israel, losing it's shit over the Russia Ukraine thing is just too much. Like, fucks sake, we're the baddies.
Cool, Russian and Belarusian athletes are banned from the Paralympics!
You sure showed those athletes, world peace is now secure :rosa-salute:
I just can't my wrap my head at how hard Russia and normal Russians are being "cancelled" right now. This is the most insane response I've ever seen by anyone to anything in my life
oh boy, this is what you do if you want the other side to start worrying more about the lives of their soldiers than the risk of civilian casualties thus leading them to also giving zero quarter with their supremacy of fire through long-range artillery, cruise missiles, and air supremacy.
"You say our men 'will be stabbed like pigs' if they're captured? then we'll keep them out of harms way and we will show what "no mercy" looks like as death rains on the heads of the merciless devils armed with bayonets"
oh boy, this is what you do if you want the other side to start worrying more about the lives of their soldiers than the risk of civilian casualties thus leading them to also giving zero quarter with their supremacy of fire through long-range artillery, cruise missiles, and air supremacy.
I see it as further evidence to support the idea that the Ukrainian strategy is to provoke Russia into mass civilian casualties so that NATO will be forced to intervene.
Sick thing is that Zelensky will probably be hailed as a hero if that happens.
Great way to bathe the world in hellfire, but go off
in an explosionking
Sounds like an extension of Zelenskyy's plan to get civilians killed for sympathy.
That’s kind of what the liveua map looks like. Almost all the red info is along the lines of “Russian tank destroyed” whereas the blue pins will say things such as “Ukrainian resistance successfully repelled a Russian incursion”. The pins keep moving deeper into the country though.
Handing out weapons to civilians and releasing prisoners to fight: classic moves of the winning side.
But I don’t think Ukraine will be punished by the ICC.
Of course they won't, they're wholesome Ukraine 100 Keanu Chungus. It's a war crime if the Bad People do it, if the Good People do it, it's the cost of doing war.
Russian military releases video of them treating Ukrainian POWs well. "Why would you share this shitty propaganda are you pro putin teenage anti-imperialist larper???1!!!??1?"
Ukrainian military does a little war crime. ":side-eye-1: :side-eye-2: "
@WhyEssEff posted about this as well and I thought the same thing so we vetted it. its strange that the account isn't verified but the ukrainian minister of defense tweets at this account frequently soo
seeing redditors praising the lynchings of russian civilians in ukraine now :shrek-pixel-despair:
If you can boycott Russia, you can boycott Israel
Thanks for coming to my ted talk
I have a pair of Ukrainian friends who are the sweetest people and the furthest thing from Nazis, both of whom introduced me to Russian culture, and ngl, I'm glad as fuck they don't know about my political stances on this conflict and haven't seen my posting history lol
Hey , what the fuck? I haven’t wished death upon anyone’s family. It’s incredibly offensive to say I don’t stand by my friends, suggesting I wish death on Ukrainians just because I might or might not have said Russia has legitimate grievances against the west.
The Ukrainian government should have been more mindful of Russia's security demands if they didn't want to get invaded. its not fair but thats what you have do when there's a nuclear-armed major power right next door. they could have probably gotten away with an elected zelensky government and their little civil war in the east as long as they disavowed nato, but they played tough with Russia and now their people are paying the price. the Ukrainian government is not blameless for the outbreak of hostilities.
:PIGPOOPBALLS:
The west could have avoided this war completely. No love for Putin, or this war. But also your opinion is shit.
Yeah whatever just don’t tell me I’m wishing death upon my friends’ loved ones and all Ukrainians just because i have a take on geopolitics.
Shame on you. Shame on you!
Shame on you, complicit supporter of the Azov terrorists, shame on you!
Shame on you, one who degrades the 8 years of terror that were suffered by the Russian and Jewish minority populations of the Ukraine to "Russian grievances" (holy shit), shame on you!
Shame on you! Shall I have to link to you the videos of random murders, of random terrorist acts the Azov terrorists have inflicted upon the local populations for the past 8 years? Shame on you!
Shame on you, who supports genocide in the Ukraine! Shame on you, who pretends that they never tried to literally ban the Russian language! Shame on you!
Shame on You, who pretends to be a socialist while openly supporting global American hegemony, shame on you!
You are no such socialist! You are a social fascist, supporter of imperialism, you capitalist bootlicker!
You are no comrade of mine.
I don’t give a shit about Russia’s grievances. 🇺🇦 🇺🇦 🇺🇦 all fucking day.
:PIGPOOPBALLS:
"Russian grievances", is that really what you fucking think a literal genocide is?
Do not use the Ukrainian flag. If you really supported the Ukrainian people, you would be frothing in rage at the crimes committed by the Nazi goons of the Ukrainian state against the Ukrainian people, not spamming the Ukrainian flag like a fucking Vaush fan.
A true Ukrainian patriot is the biggest hater of the fascist Ukrainian state, who have sold out the entire country to the western bourgeoisie, let the country get pillaged and looted, let the Ukraine become one of the poorest countries in Europe.
Do not use the Ukrainian flag, the flag of German collaborators, in both the Great and World War.
Do not.
Shame on you! Shall I have to link to you the videos of random murders, of random terrorist acts the Azov terrorists have inflicted upon the local populations for the past 8 years? Shame on you!
As a lurker of this discussion, I would genuinely appreciate a few links
OSCE report on the Azov terrorism: https://www.osce.org/files/f/documents/e/7/233896.pdf CW: NSFL descriptions
This is one of the videos of Azov thugs pulling people out of their cars and executing them: https://leftypol.org/leftypol_archive/src/1645908453116.mp4 CW: murder, screaming, gunfire, cameraman getting shot at
I am not going to link the crucifixion video holy fucking shit. Just search up "Azov Battalion crucifixion" if you really want to see it (you really don't)
Really recommend you read the OSCE report, it describes in detail the crimes and atrocities that were committed against the local populations by the Azov Battalion.
I don't think you fully understand just how bad Azov Battalion is. To compare it to the Russian state is disingenuous at best.
Azov is bad but I can't side with bombing innocent civilians to smoke them out. Most Ukrainians have nothing to do with the 2014 coup or this war and I really really feel bad for them.
Makes sense to me. Horrible geopolitical events take an incredible toll and they're in the thick of it. It would be pretty difficult to talk about the issue on the level of the great power conflict and interests in-person without it coming across as dismissive of their suffering. Or seeing it posted by a friend elsewhere.
This applies to a lot of situations where one would provide critical support or even just not supporting something on principal when the outcome has serious personal consequences. There were people desperate to be rid of Trump because they were particularly vulnerable to his policies and staffing choices. Not a good group to jump into and say, "yeah but I'm not voting for Biden", you'd need to take them in a journey with your to understand your motivations and reasoning first.
dunno, do you tell everyone you meet you're a communist that wants to minecraft every landlord in america?
Exactly, I'm not going to be like "NGL Putin sucks but critical support to him in telling NATO to fuck off" when she's like, "I hope my Dad is safe in Kiev and doesn't become a casualty of war".
The whole situation is a clusterfuck IMO. I can't blame Ukranians for becoming die-hard nationalists under these circumstances, but at the same time I cannot view this conflict as anything other than a proxy war. I work with a bunch of Poles, Russians, and Ukrainians (and a Yugoslavian babushka for good measure) and I have kept my lips buttoned about this. I don't even know where to start.
Appeal to Putin for intervention and get recognized as the PorkrollPosadist Peoples Republic.
Oh, I don't live close to them and it's been a year since I've seen them, although our friendship was strong we never really shared our opinions on politics. TBH I don't even know what it is they're exactly thinking about this since I'm pretty sure one of them is of Russian ethnicity and the other has strong affinity towards Russian culture, all we've talked about is how terrible things are and how I hope their friends and family are safe.
