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Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Please add to this if you can.

Links

Time/Map: https://time.is/Ukraine

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ukraine/@49.1162725,31.7993839,7z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x40d1d9c154700e8f:0x1068488f64010!8m2!3d48.379433!4d31.1655799?hl=en

Leftist discussion threads:

https://hexbear.net/post/177324

https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/t03foy/genzedong_russiaukraine_master_discussion_thread/

https://lemmygrad.ml/

Twitter military updaters:

https://nitter.net/ASBMilitary

https://nitter.net/Militarylandnet

https://nitter.net/MihajlovicMike

https://nitter.net/KofmanMichael

https://nitter.net/TadeuszGiczan/status/1498673348183744518

Global South Perspective: https://nitter.net/kiranopal_/status/1498723206496145413

Better war/propaganda analysis:

https://www.understandingwar.org

https://www.moonofalabama.org/

News updates:

https://www.cgtn.com/special/UkraineCrisis.html

Live: https://www.cgtn.com/special/Live-update-Ukraine-Russia-border-crisis.html

YT/Video in Ukraine:

https://www.youtube.com/c/PatrickLancasterNewsToday/videos

https://www.youtube.com/c/RussellBentleyTe

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  • TurkeySausageLiker [he/him]
    ·
    3 years ago

    So Russia has offered it's terms for ending the war: fully recognize Crimea and the Donbas republics and sign and agreement to not join "blocs" like the EU or NATO. Basically leaving a neutral state in Western Ukraine with the ethnic Russian parts as independent states or part of Russia proper. This would basically be the prewar status quo but officially and without the constant shooting and shelling in the Donbas, and Ukraine ceding the previously Ukrainian-held territory to Donbas republics. It's a pretty good deal tbh, but he probably can't take it out of fear of what the numerous fascist militants would do to him

    • Awoo [she/her]
      ·
      3 years ago

      The Ukrainian side has 1 less negotiator now compared to the last round. Different stories by all sides on what happened to him but he's dead.

      Fascists don't want this to end. They will martyr the entire population if they can. They will collapse all of Europe and use the opportunities it opens up as states across the continent get resource-stretched to start new fascist territories.

        • comi [he/him]
          ·
          3 years ago

          Denazification implies occupation, it was always bs. demilitarization is/was feasible, if all sides didn’t bungle it so much it was even feasible before the war

          • TurkeySausageLiker [he/him]
            ·
            3 years ago

            True, denazification was what was used to drum up domestic support and boost morale in the DPR/LPR

            • comi [he/him]
              ·
              3 years ago

              I mean denazification could always be sold like 5 generals of azov were killed, mission accomplished, pack our troops, it’s that weak of a statement. Will the west/libs start trolling that they didn’t denazify? Of course not. That’s why it’s nebulousness is so useful

        • sgtlion [any]
          ·
          3 years ago

          That's their justification for the invasion, sure, which is pretty dumb. But the Minsk agreements 8 years ago pretty much only required that Ukrainian provinces get self-determination and that Ukraine agree to neutrality, which unfortunately Ukraine never honored.

    • Des [she/her, they/them]
      ·
      3 years ago

      that's a great deal they should take it but the fascists absolutely won't let them.

        • Des [she/her, they/them]
          ·
          3 years ago

          if it will end this war he can come here and they can put him in a big mansion with juan guaido and film a reality series together whatever i don't care

          • Animasta [any]
            ·
            3 years ago

            Ukraine taking the deal now, isn't probably what US wants.

          • Ursus_Hexagonus [he/him]
            ·
            3 years ago

            Then again if he's in exile he can continue to act the hero and refuse to compromise

    • Cummunism [they/them, he/him]
      ·
      3 years ago

      what a hero, not taking the deal because of what would happen to 1 person. wow, just like Tony Stark.

    • ShitPosterior [none/use name]
      ·
      3 years ago

      Seems like a legit deal - also doesn't Russia suddenly just own a bunch of Ukraine's oil then? Like it is straight imperialism & a resource grab

      • TurkeySausageLiker [he/him]
        ·
        3 years ago

        They wouldn't own anything they don't already own. Crimea has been part of the Russian Federation for nearly a decade. They people there overwhelmingly do not want to be part of Ukraine.

        • Cascadia_ [they/them]
          ·
          3 years ago

          Well there is the oilfield in Donetsk that is currently under Ukrainian control (or at least was at the start of the war)

          • TurkeySausageLiker [he/him]
            ·
            3 years ago

            That wouldn't be part of Russia, it would be part of the DPR. I'm sure a Russian company would extract it though, since oil extraction is very capital intensive and they don't have their own oil extraction outfit.

            • Cascadia_ [they/them]
              ·
              3 years ago

              Oh I guess I was just assuming that they would vote to join Russia afterwards, but they might not

              • TurkeySausageLiker [he/him]
                ·
                3 years ago

                I mean maybe they will. There is genuine sentiment for joining Russia there. I'd like to see what happens there politically as an independent state, but it's not really my call lol.

          • Alaskaball [comrade/them]MA
            ·
            3 years ago

            That belongs to the people of Donetsk, not Russia. If they choose to sell it to Russia, that's their business.

            • Abraxiel
              ·
              3 years ago

              Well, yes and no. The Donbas states would absolutely be Russian client states beholden to Russian goodwill.

              Still, it's a pretty mild deal considering the stakes.

              • Alaskaball [comrade/them]MA
                ·
                3 years ago

                If they forgave the Ukranian state for murdering 14,000 of their people over 8 years, if it's even the same state later at the end of this war, then sure. That's their business as a self-determining state.

                • NoGodsNoMasters [they/them, she/her]
                  ·
                  3 years ago

                  Sure it is in theory, but you can't really deny that Russia would have a lot of sway over the tiny state on its border that only really exists because of its military intervention.

                  • Alaskaball [comrade/them]MA
                    ·
                    3 years ago

                    I also can't deny that the imperialist states denies their existence and as such will force them to make deals where they can since they're not recognized as sovereign peoples republics.

      • kleeon [he/him, he/him]
        ·
        3 years ago

        it's from reuters interview with peskov https://www.reuters.com/world/kremlin-says-russian-military-action-will-stop-moment-if-ukraine-meets-2022-03-07/

    • sgtlion [any]
      ·
      3 years ago

      These have been the Russian demands for 8 years, that are scarily reasonable, and unfortunately Ukraine has never honoured.

      I have no idea why the Ukrainian government would rather have a war than agree to neutrality and the ukrainian people getting self-determination. Doesn't justify the invasion, but, what a dumb thing to fight over.

      • voice_of_hermes [he/him,any]
        ·
        3 years ago

        I have no idea why the Ukrainian government would rather have a war than agree to neutrality and the ukrainian people getting self-determination.

        Because the U.S. has been using neo-Nazis and misleading promises and other pressure to force it into that position the whole fucking time (and probably e.g. Zelenskyy doesn't care and was allowed to be elected for exactly this reason anyway; we know from the Panama Papers he was taking fascist money...). Here's a good example.

        National Interest - How the West Got Russia and Ukraine Wrong

        For their part, the Ukrainians needed no instruction from the United States to embark on a policy of de-Russification. When Zelenskyy shut down Medvedchuk’s media companies in February 2021, it was viewed as a gift to the newly arrived Biden administration. After 2014, “you’re either with us or against us” became a pronounced feature of Ukrainian politics, and Washington’s encouragement in 2021 made it worse. Autonomy for the Donbas, the formula contained within the February 2015 Minsk-2 Ceasefire Agreement, was considered treasonous by powerful forces in Ukraine. For example, Zelensky was warned by nationalist militia leader Dmytro Yarosh after his election that such an offer would come at the price of his neck. Just a few days ago, the editor of the Kyiv Independent wrote in the New York Times that any concession to Russia over the status of eastern Ukraine would bring about the same fate for Zelenskyy that befell Victor Yanukovych, who was tossed from power in 2014. The United States supported all these steps, looking simultaneously toward bolstering Ukrainian nationalism and blasting the Russophiles.