I can't fucking believe it. Draconian fucking country.

  • star_wraith [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I, John Brown am now quite certain that the crimes of this guilty land will never be purged away; but with Blood

  • Wheaties [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    They said ending pandemic support would stop the labor shortage.

    After that, it was to be Black Friday. Came 'n' went, and still the labor market was tight.

    Then it was supposed to be last minute Christmas spending.

    Then it was the oil and grocery hike.

    It's now May, and they're gonna force pregnancy and parenthood on people.

    But nothing will bring the dead back from the grave. The reserve army of labor, the most precarious and vulnerable people, are rotting in the earth. Killed by a medical system made gaunt and ashen by cost cutting. Killed by a hard bed of concrete and a frosty night. Killed by the great flows of money that cannot be paused, even for a single fortnight.

    • Sea_Gull [they/them]
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      3 years ago

      The monster who tormented a woman to get Clarence Thomas on the supreme court. He's just been playing the long game all this time.

    • usa_suxxx
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      11 days ago

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      • bananon [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        The Missouri compromise but this time the south secedes because of abortion instead of slavery

        • CyberMao [it/its]
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          3 years ago

          Could be over trans healthcare too. NY has a bill which allows doctors to ignore subpoenas for patients who have fled another state for gender-affirming healthcare and denies extradition in those cases. States refusing to extradite another state’s resident does not bode well for the union

    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      I wonder how bad things will get during the near future - this decade for example...

      If the GOP captures enough state legislatures, they can call a Constitutional Convention to change the Constitution, including the Bill of Rights.

      • pikman1 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        If it makes you feel any better: They'd be able to call a convention with 34 states, but would still need 38 states to actually ratify and confirm any changes, which is highly unlikely even in Hellworld (Never say never tho of course).

        • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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          3 years ago

          I think this year's elections were be a dry run for GOP malfeasance. And the 2024 elections will be a sick, corrupt joke where the GOP perverts our electoral system. They could certainly get to 38 states by the end of the decade.

          • pikman1 [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            I personally doubt it since that would basically require the Republicans to completely flip and control 1 or 2 consistently very solid blue Democrat strongholds, but ya never know.

            • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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              3 years ago

              Consider that not only will voting will be thoroughly corrupted our legal system might (will?) often be a GOP rubber stamp. The GOP is going to be absolutely power drunk starting from a few hours ago when the news broke. I think they are capable of anything and our legal system will fail us.

    • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
      ·
      3 years ago

      He's the anti-Lincoln, he's allowing the union to crumble because he can't even be bothered to pretend to care about human rights

    • OfficialBenGarrison [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Watch Joe Biden actually campaign on this.

      "Vote blue, A democrat presidency saw abortion get banned alongside the re-criminalization of those ICKY trans people!"

      We are fucking doomed. Nazis are always going to be one step ahead of us. They ALWAYS win in the end.

      • FunkyStuff [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        No they don't. I understand that seeing them gain ground in this cursed country is disheartening, but Nazis inherently cannot win. They have a self-destructive ideology.

        • BeamBrain [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          The problem is that in addition to themselves, their ideology tends to destroy everyone around them

        • Nixon [she/her]
          ·
          3 years ago

          Yeah people keep forgetting that Wehrmacht fascists bombed Hitler in July 1944, not out of any hatred for Nazism, but because they wanted Germany's involvement in WW2 to end. The supposed "resistance" of guys like Erwin Rommel passively choosing to avoid exposing assassination plots wasn't some noble stance against fascism, they were fascists who wanted better fascists in power.

        • bigboopballs [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Nazis inherently cannot win. They have a self-destructive ideology.

          well they can ensure that everyone loses

      • SaniFlush [any, any]
        ·
        3 years ago

        Stay alive OBG, we could see the final, true death of fascism within our lifetimes.

    • SacredExcrement [any, comrade/them]
      ·
      3 years ago

      In spite of everything going to hell, I at least derive an iota of satisfaction from the knowledge that I will one day in the near future get to piss on his grave

  • WhyEssEff [she/her]
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    3 years ago

    so what the fuck are the dems gonna campaign on now? it's not like they plan to pack the courts. and it's not like they're taking a major stand to the fucking trans panic sweeping repub controlled states. are they just gonna say it out loud? the "nothing will fundamentally change" line?

    this fucking sucks. marg bar amrika

      • Lundi [none/use name]
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        3 years ago

        He elected the first black woman to the Supreme Court!”

        lol there’s never been a black woman who’s been a supreme court judge? wow, racist fucking country

        • CyberMao [it/its]
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          3 years ago

          The Republicans spent weeks making insinuations about how she was secretly unqualified and her appointment was just for diversity. We just let it happen because they were sufficiently civil I guess

            • Asa_the_Red [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              Im fairly certain that was another reactionary talking head podcaster, but theyre all the same person at the end of the day. I think it might have been pim tool, thats his style of beanie brained take

          • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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            3 years ago

            To be fair (insert Letterkenny noise) he shouldn’t have said he was only going to pick a black woman. He should’ve just picked a black woman. By saying that he was going to pick only a black woman he signed her up for a lifetime of that criticism.

      • neera_tanden [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Hey, are you interested in a career in politics at the DNC? You need to have a weird name like Granit Smith-Appel or granit mehldau. There’s a whole affirmative action but for names

          • neera_tanden [she/her]
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            edit-2
            3 years ago

            We can work with you. You just need the right name

            Like granite contra-topf

            Edit: Krystal ball unfortunately chose to be a cia agent and grifter, when she could have easily been head of the dnc 🤦‍♀️

    • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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      edit-2
      3 years ago

      Russia and save democracy, something like that, maybe dangling the student loan carrot, or they want to loss so they could get more donation for next election. It’s just performative at this point, without a revolution of ripping the system down, send elite class to the gallow, nothing will change

    • CheGueBeara [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      "Elect us to restore Roe v. Wade".

      It doesn't have to make sense.

    • star_wraith [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      It's gonna be "vote blue so only 24 states ban abortion instead of 27!"

    • Z_Poster365 [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      Nothing will change is giving them too much credit, makes it sound like they will hold the line against reactionary movement

      Instead they are just asleep at the while we crash into a brick wall.

  • Dimmer06 [he/him,comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    It's very :sadness-abysmal: to see the libs on r/politics getting mad at McConnell and Collins as if that fucking matters anymore. What are you gonna do. vote them out? You lost because your shitty fucking politicians and the grafters that surround them stripped the wiring out of the Democratic party and any social movement behind it, and you just fucking let them while you posted on Reddit. Hell you defended them against any and all criticism for decades.

    Power flows from the militant masses. Learn that or we're all gonna keep losing.

  • BolsheWitch [she/her, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    “We hold that Roe and Casey must be overruled. The Constitution makes no reference to abortion, and no such right is implicitly protected by any constitutional provision....” /-Justice Samuel Alito in an initial draft majority opinion

    Sounds like we need a new constitution then.

    :gui-better: :amerikkka: :red-fist:

    • WhyEssEff [she/her]
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      edit-2
      3 years ago

      200 year old document can be interpreted misogynisticly? clearly it's the women's fault and not the ancient fucking text's :agony-shivering:

        • Tapirs10 [undecided,she/her]
          ·
          3 years ago

          Oldest constitution of any country. They say it like it's a good thing. The monsters in the courts who do this deserve death

          • CyberMao [it/its]
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            3 years ago

            And they’ll get it. At the end of their lifetime appointments after they’ve devastated a million lives. Probably cancer.

        • WhyEssEff [she/her]
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          edit-2
          3 years ago

          it's a RULES BASED ORDER SWEATY its SACRED you should have VOTED HARDER :maybe-later-kiddo:

        • marzimpan [any]
          ·
          3 years ago

          the constitution is the original blockchain technology

    • fox [comrade/them]
      ·
      3 years ago

      idk how anyone can be taken seriously if they're a judge and their entire set of principles is how well any modern law complies with a 200 year old document that was outdated before it was published

      • CheGueBeara [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        They're cynical true believers, though. The originalist or limited interpretations are used highly selectively to meet whatever right wing goal they have in mind. The blatant nonsense is presented directly to them during argument and they choose to pretend it didn't exist or come up with a transparently inconsistent argument so that they can pretend to have addressed it.

        "This 200 year old document didn't say so explicitly so it doesn't count" is pretextual, and buying into the idea of the pretext as being the actual reason is part of what gives it power.

        • fox [comrade/them]
          ·
          3 years ago

          Yeah but that's because there's only one book about socialism and Marx wrote it. No other advances in theory since then.

    • LeninWalksTheWorld [any]
      ·
      3 years ago

      “The inescapable conclusion is that a right to abortion is not deeply rooted in the Nation’s history and traditions,” Alito writes.

      like yeah, this is true. this country's history and traditions fucking suck. its slavery and genocide. I'm sure according to the old as shit constitution there is nothing about abortion in there. but everyone knows why Roe v Wade exists and nobody pretends like we have (had) that slim layer of protection because it was what alexander fucking hamilton would have wanted. Row is so prominent because congress sucks shit and can't make a federal abortion law so the court kept it there to keep the issue out of state hands at a (slim) baseline. They are hiding their crimes behind ideology essentially

      • CyberMao [it/its]
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        3 years ago

        Abortion’s been de-facto banned in a shit ton of states already. A lot of this is going to be the theatre of making a speech as we shut down the one clinic in the entire state who still provides abortions. It will absolutely fuck up other people’s lives, but in some states this is mostly for show just like Roe has been.

    • Parzivus [any]
      ·
      3 years ago

      when your entire moral system is based on the law but unironically apparently???

      • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
        ·
        3 years ago

        Argued with someone like that online once, wouldn't recommend the experience

        :wall-talk:

        He literally said things were wrong because they were illegal

        :doomer:

        • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
          ·
          3 years ago

          He literally said things were wrong because they were illegal

          Does he hold the opposite to be true? Was the Holocaust morally good because it was perfectly legal under the laws of Nazi Germany?

          What he's espousing is called Legal Positivism and it was largely discredited following 1945 for obvious reasons.

          • ElChapoDeChapo [he/him, comrade/them]
            ·
            3 years ago

            I'm gonna guess :yea: because we were arguing about the concentration camps here in :amerikkka: and he kept saying illegal immigration was bad because it was illegal

      • 4zi [he/him, comrade/them]
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        edit-2
        3 years ago

        The constitution makes no reference to me Minecrafting all of the scotus judges so therefore it’s not illegal

      • Bloobish [comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        By that right it also doesn't make reference to it not being illegal, but fuck y'all if you think that's what the party of "individual freedoms" will come up with. Burn this fucker down.

    • marzimpan [any]
      ·
      3 years ago

      9th Amendment: The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage [other rights] retained by the people.

    • Quimby [any, any]
      ·
      3 years ago

      hell, setting aside a new constitution, the democrats have had numerous opportunities over the past 50 years to enshrine Roe in law, which would have completely preempted this challenge. they have consciously chosen not to do so.

      • CTHlurker [he/him]
        ·
        3 years ago

        Because only like 2/3s of the party even agrees with it. There are so many fucking pro-life democrats within the party that you would have to wonder if they recruited them specifically for the purpose of not doing shit.

  • corgiwithalaptop [any, love/loves]
    ·
    3 years ago

    A little late to the thread, but love and solidarity to all. Death to America. This is not only frustrating, but terrifying.

    :soviet-heart:

  • Wogre [he/him]
    ·
    3 years ago

    There will be tons of protests about this but nothing will be done because this country is fucked

    • DirtbagVegan [he/him]
      ·
      3 years ago

      I mean yeah, the state mechanism responsible for this is even more insulated from public opinions than the others. Unless Joe Brandon caves to public pressure and packs the court (he won’t) or you literally overthrow the US government, nothing will change.

      • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
        ·
        3 years ago

        There are two other things that could happen, although they also won’t. They could codify the right to an abortion, either through congress or executive order.

  • Hohsia [he/him]
    ·
    3 years ago

    Who is more culpable? The 18 year old who wrote in harambe in 2016 or RBG for not retiring the 3rd time she got cancer?

    If you said the 18 year old, you'd be correct kiddo :maybe-later-kiddo:

  • KurtVonnegut [comrade/them]
    ·
    3 years ago

    Fun fact: rich women will still be able to get abortions. This only hurts poor women. So, nothing is going to happen - there is now a bipartisan consensus and it is "FUCK THE POOR".

  • grey_wolf_whenever [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Unreal fucking brain worms in this country that everyone thinks 2016 was the last election. Every tweet is just "progressives caused this by not voting for Clinton" but the Dems have full control! Right now! You won!!! Use that!!!!!!

    • BodyBySisyphus [he/him]
      ·
      3 years ago

      :maybe-later-kiddo: Can't do anything unless we have 66 Senate votes sweetie.

      • Poison_Ivy [comrade/them]
        ·
        3 years ago

        The Democrats could have a 100 seat majority in the Senate and they'd do absolutely nothing with it because it's the wrong moon cycle or some dumb horseshit

        • BodyBySisyphus [he/him]
          ·
          3 years ago

          I imagine it being 99 to 1 and the Democrats consistently voting with their Republican 'colleague' to make sure he feels included.

    • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
      ·
      3 years ago

      I genuinely don’t understand how you could possibly blame anyone but the Democratic Party for this. They have full, total control of the government. Republicans get literally no say as long as the Democrats just use the powers they have and act like an actual political party.

      • grey_wolf_whenever [he/him]
        ·
        3 years ago

        Libs have full fucking loser brain and it's the only explanation. Even with every house they can't conceptually grasp having control because they absolutely refuse to use it so they punch the only way they know how: left. This is because young people didn't vote for Hillary!! As if they aren't president RIGHT NOW.

  • Sasuke [comrade/them]
    ·
    3 years ago

    taken from r/politics

    The draft also references gay marriage and birth control. We know what is next on the chopping block.

    It also references Lawrence v Texas. Which means they intend to criminalize homosexual sex/Re-instate anti-sodomy laws. Effectively criminalizing homosexuality

    uuuhhh if this true then....

    :sadness-abysmal:

  • Spike [none/use name]
    ·
    3 years ago

    They've also set up barricades around the supreme court. Not fascist at all.