An 89-year-old retired businessman died from an “overdose” of Vitamin D supplements that did not warn about the risks of excessive intake.
David Mitchener from Oxted, Surrey, reportedly had fatally high levels of Vitamin D when he was brought to the East Surrey Hospital last year in May and was suffering from hypercalcaemia – a build-up of calcium in the body associated with taking too much vitamin D.
He died ten days later.
jesus christ lol we really do have all possible emotes
I did not know what/who the emoji was, so I checked the tags and found out about chubbyemu, and started watching videos which is a problem, because I am a hypochondriac.
from video "A tankie watched ten hours of chubbyemu videos. This is what happened to their mental health.":
S. is a Hexbear user, ☝ presenting to the emergency room with a sharp pain in their soul
Don’t worry. He takes a bunch of different stories related to a subject - some of which aren’t extreme or no one dies - and combines them to create a completely fictional, ‘hypothetical’ one which is the one he uploads.
Basically it’s just amplified by like 100x and he doesn’t list the sources.
hyper meaning in high quantities, calce meaning calcium and mia meaning in blood.
high quantities of calcium in blood
I hate this guy for his dogshit and homophobic take on gay people donating blood
Let me guess, "all gays probably have HIV/AIDS so we can't let them donate"?
For anyone else wondering how much vitamin D David had:
Ante-mortem test revealed Vitamin D levels at 380 (the maximum level recordable by the laboratory).
380 ng/mL is about 38,000 IU of vitamin D, but since that was the maximum measurable level, the actual level was probably higher
20-50 ng/mL is good, 150 ng/mL or higher is considered vitamin D intoxication
Jesus fucking Christ. I take 5000iu daily for thyroid-related stuff and that's considered a high dose. How much was he fucking taking?
I recall the Mayo report on vitamin d supplement indicated just a bit of the calcium thing starting to be noticeable after 6 months of 60,000 IU. the stuff just really doesn't want to build up in most folks I guess
Thee hundred eighty nanograms per milliliter. Not great; not terrible.
Remember kids don't have too many vitamins.
CW: polar bear liver
Polar Bear - an overview | ScienceDirect Topics
So why is polar bear liver so toxic?
For decades the finger has been pointed at vitamin A. A single polar bear liver (about 500 g) has an astonishing 9 million IU of vitamin A, and acute human toxicity occurs at about 300,000 IU!
note that's only a concern for fat soluble vitamins (A, D, E, and K). the rest you just piss out
At very high vitamin A levels, symptoms include full-body skin loss, hemorrhaging, coma, and death.
Full-body skin loss
ahhhh the wonders of being able to expose my swarthy Brazilian ass to the sun daily
Just wanted to note that the USA has a massive (basically) unregulated supplement industry. Most vitamins and supplements are ineffective (at best) and unnecessary unless you have a deficiency.
I have a vague memory of hearing/reading/looking it up one time, but there was a law that was passed that changed the what triggers the USA's Food and Drug Administration ability to police things like... umm.. food and drugs. It made it so that the FDA couldn't proactively/preemptively look into the supplements to check for quality, quantity of ingredients, adulterants, and efficacy. The bill was put forth by some political creature from Oklahoma.
Most people in the developed world are vitamin D deficient though. And it's even worse for melanated people as they live further from the equator. 30 minutes of sun exposure in the summer will give you over 10,000 iu of Vitamin D so that's a good daily number to shoot for with supplements if it's winter or you're stuck indoors. Vitamin D and fish oil are the only supplements I take as all of the other essential nutrients are easily obtained with food.
Yeah I've always been weirded out about the phrase "FDA approved" since that implies that supplements and the like can be sold... Without approval? Surely that can't be right? You can't just put a bunch of pills in a bottle, call it a vitamin supplement and sell it without some pharmaceutical rigor. I heard someone say you basically could do that, and then at some point the FDA would crack down, but they couldn't do it premptively. Never looked into it, because that sounded crazy.
You can literally make any claim as long as you slap on “Not FDA approved.”
I came across some crap that “treats” cancer, but it had a little star next to it. And at the bottom on the back of the label, you can see “these statements are not FDA approved”
That's just wild to me. I feel like you should have to get approved before you are allowed to sell medicinal supplements.
Article leaves out a very important bit
Excess D wasn’t the only cause of death listed — the coroner also blamed congestive heart failure, chronic kidney failure, hypercalcemia, and Ischaemic Heart Disease — when blood no longer flows efficiently to the organ.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/health/other/man-dies-of-vitamin-d-toxicity-experts-warn-the-risk-of-overdose-is-real/ar-BB1jaWCw
Vit D toxicity can only occur with very high doses. Recommended daily intake is 600 IU. Taking upto 1-2k IU daily will never cause toxicity.
Yeah normaly people can adsorb fairly high levels. The long term high D exasperated other issues and a contibuting factor. Not making the post to poo poo on Vit D. Body needs it. Good for health.
I've been noticing a lot of people recently taking absolutely massive daily doses of vitamin d. I know the flccc and anti-vax people are wild about vitamin d and think that's all you need to cure covid so I've seen a number of them taking these monster doses, but I've also noticed some in the long covid community also taking these monster doses I suppose in an attempt to find anything that makes them feel better. I don't think they're taking quite this much, and I don't actually know what constitutes an unsafe dose, but I've been thinking is that really safe to be taking that much vitamin d? Especially daily? Idk, but just a trend I've anecdotally noticed recently.
A doctor once prescribed vitamin d to me because I was deficient, I took 5,000 IU daily for a few months and felt fine. Wonder how much these people are taking
okay I found one guy saying he was doing 30,000 daily
another person saying 20-40,000 daily
another person saying 10,000 3x/day
another person saying he was doing 100,000/day for a while but now at 20-30,000 daily
a lot of other people saying they're taking massive doses, but only for temporary time periods
I know nothing about vitamin d but I take like 1000 daily. I was doing 2000 daily for a long time but my doctor said that's probably unnecessary. I was mostly just astounded at seeing how much vitamin d some people were taking.
edit: this from r/covidlonghaulers sub
White person moment.
We don't need vitamin D supplements unless we are living down a hole
awful take:
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non-white countries have just as or higher rates of Vitamin D deficiency
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a huge percentage of people are Vitamin D deficient
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depending on where you live, for a large portion of the year because of the angle of the sun, there's no possibly way to get enough sunlight for Vitamin D production
basically everyone should be taking it. it's cheap and helps prevent a lot of health issues.
We should all move to Cuba and start a Hexbear commune.
hell yeah dude, and we can talk about crankin hawgs there
Two guys, hanging out half a foot apart because they’re comrades
The climate is habitable though. You just need to take a vitamin supplement. If that makes a place uninhabitable, then there's practically nowhere that's habitable - All places require that we shield ourselves from the environment in some way.
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Why would I go outside into the sunlight when there are so many lotus flowers to eat in my dank filthy dark bedroom
Here at the 45th parallel we definitely need Vitamin D supplements.
But it does feel like November-February is spent living down a hole so that tracks.
Do you live in a place with winter?
Non-white people are a lot worse at synthesizing vitamin D into their body through sunlight. To get enough vitamin D you need 30 minutes outside if white, 2 hours if black.
Winter depression is a thing because you go to work when it's dark, you leave work it's already sunset if you have an office job.
idk if those times even work in the winter when you don't even expose your entire face because it cold.
Hmmm. I'm less convinced of this being a fact.
There have been at least a couple of studies done on surfers in Hawaii who are semi-professional or who report getting at least 15 hours of sun exposure per week (and we're talking a lot of time spent with their entire backs to the Hawaiian sun here too) and these studies have shown a surprising amount of vitamin D deficiency in the subjects.
Most people aren't getting anywhere near that amount of sun exposure and I'd hazard a guess that most people aren't consuming much liver in their diet.
Vitamin D synthesis with sun on skin doesn't just convert all sunlight into vitamin D. Your body will stop synthesizing it at a certain point. It's not possible to overdose from sunlight.
I'm not saying that it's possible to overdose on vitamin D synthesised by exposure to sunlight, I'm just saying that I'm unconvinced that exposure to sunlight is in itself sufficient to meet vitamin D needs without dietary intake (especially for people who live a modern lifestyle where they don't necessarily get a lot of sun exposure).
I was told by my doctor that Iron plays a part in Vitamin D absorption, so these surfers could've been deficient in that or something else that interfered with their ability to metabolise Vitamin D
We don't need vitamin D supplements unless we are living down a hole
Or if you never
When you walk with Jesus
He's gonna save your soul
But you gotta take your vitamins
Way dowwwwwn in the hole!
When you walk through hexbear
You'd better watch your back
When you post emojis
You walk a straight and narrow track
Really depends on where you live. Just read a study by a university at my latitude where we get as little as 10 hrs a day of sun in the dead of winter. Even taking 1000IU's per day, healthy adults were losing vitamin D all winter, and some were falling into low levels by spring when levels naturally rebound. 2000IU's kept levels steady all winter. It's not like it's expensive either, I just bought a bottle for 10 bucks that will last me almost two years.
There definitely needs to be better regulations and clearer packaging on all vitamins and supplements though
We don't need vitamin D supplements unless we are living down a hole
Yeah the
biome is typically a frozen wasteland with about 20 minutes of a sun a yearOne week at 36 degrees would wipe out most of the UK
Some people live places were the sun doesn't shine a whole lot for long periods of time. Those people often do need vitamin D supplements no matter their skin color and no matter the elevation of their home.
if you can't fly close to the stars the next best thing is OD'ing on Vitamin D
How I'm trying to be but by getting cooked by the sun (I go outside)
spoiler
it's a joke I wear sunscreen
i am pretty sure hypercalcemia is from too much calcium and is probably from calcium in the vitamin D supplements, not vitamin D
where does the calcium come from
jk that's a stupid question when a lot of vitamin D supplements have, guess what, calcium
Vitamin D is a group of fat-soluble secosteroids responsible for increasing intestinal absorption of calcium, magnesium, and phosphate, and for many other biological effects.
-Wikipedia
do you need to be a doctor to define "hypercalcemia"
what do you think that word is
Levels so high other detection devices broke...
"Thanks Oklahoma!"
can't believe this us the only Omar we have
