• Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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      3 years ago

      My mom is like 60 and revealed to me that she was deep into twilight. My mom is also an evangelical (maybe not as loony as some, but still...).

      Anyways yeah, you're gonna have to carry that weight.

        • Cloudx189 [comrade/them]
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          3 years ago

          I'm not sure YOU understand. :volcel-judge: :bonk: :volcel-vanguard: :volcel-judge:

        • UlyssesT
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          2 months ago

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        • Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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          3 years ago

          Nothing actually, I think romance/genre fiction is really fun and the only problem is people not really recognizing that it's not very reflective of reality. Like the dudes in this picture can realize the harem slop they consume is much different from romance slop that women tend to like until they swap genders, which is both hilarious and sad.

          I still have a super soft spot for Tolkien's love take of Beren and Luthien (I swear this must be rooted in a deeply trad-oriented upbringing), and even that is not really much better than any other silly romance story.

          • Sharon [none/use name]
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            3 years ago

            After seeing this comment, I realize the most romance containing piece of fiction that I have read is 1984. Hmm...

            • StuporTrooper [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              For as much shit as people give Orwell (deservedly, the bastard man he was) I think the "do it to her! Do it to Julia!" was a genuinely powerful moment. :19: :84: was a very entertaining book to read as an 18 year old.

    • kristina [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      g-gg-girl?!?!

      :hyperflush:

      highly protective feral women is a genre that needs to be explored more

      • Steve2 [any]
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        3 years ago

        Of course these gender norms are totally fake, plenty of straight dudes want a rich domineering charismatic muscle girl to take care of their problems or they would if they'd let themselves.

        • Shoegazer [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          Need me strong wolf girl to tear a cop into pieces when they pull me over

        • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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          3 years ago

          You seeing weeb heads explode over makima? Everything is either evil or hot depending on how exactly an individual feels in the moment.

        • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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          3 years ago

          plenty of straight dudes want a rich domineering charismatic muscle girl to take care of their problems

          I just want a nice labor aristocrat to sweep me off my feet and take me away from all this.

        • DragonNest_Aidit [they/them,use name]
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          3 years ago

          :lady-doge: broke the anti big woman inhibitor chip in a lot of men and big strong woman is legitimately becoming more widely accepted as attractive.

  • SerLava [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    What the fuck am I psychologically healthy?

    Cause that still sounds like shit

    I personally did not pop a semi when Lady Dimitrescu butterflied my left hand like a chicken breast

    • RonPaulBlart [none/use name]
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      3 years ago

      i mean, the POVs of view here are that twilight is trash, regardless of gender identification with the protagonist; and that the dismissal (by scolds) of criticism of "women's" texts (by dudebros), which often suggests that the dude-critics only dislike these texts because the dude-critics are unable to identify with non-dude protagonists, is totally absurd when the texts criticized by the dudebros are, like twilight, totally trash, right?

      no one in that thread has actually failed to identify with or have empathy for any actually written or hypothetically written vampire characters.

      • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        it's clearly both trash aimed at women is being judged under a harsher lens than trash aimed at men

        • Sea_Gull [they/them]
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          3 years ago

          That's the way it feels. Guys are allowed to be straight creepy with women, but women aren't allowed to want someone who gives off those creepy traits in a way that's safe.

          It's kinda ironic. These incels who give women the creeps refuse to make themselves actually safe, therefore becoming attractive.

          I mean this is a book series about a girl who is creeped out by a guy but it turns out he's safe to her. I mean that sounds like a perfectly rational fantasy for several women to have given the lack of safety for women in general.

    • Zo1db3rg [comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Tbf, if you compare to some anime, Twilight is pretty tame really. I mean... Really tame... The biggest difference is the anime will throw a bunch of weird comical hijinks and fan service.

  • amber2 [she/her,they/them]
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    3 years ago

    "I don't like trashy smut for women"

    "Have you considered that you like trashy smut for men?"

    :surprised-pika:

    • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      for trashy smut they are more well made than usual too the reason they get so much hate is for all their many flaws they are at least entertaining as a concept which keeps the conversation rolling if they were dull talking about them would be less fun

      • Ideology [she/her]
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        3 years ago

        Trashy smut for women: 50000 words of emotional and sexual synergy with the most awkward flowery metaphors

        Trashy smut for men: big tiddy waifu comics

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      • Soap_Owl [any]
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        3 years ago

        She moved from Arizona to Portland. Close enough

      • GundamZZ [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        It's like reverse-isekai where the supernatural world/characters/powers are brought to the character.

        • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          That's just the genre of urban fantasy

          you can't just call any fiction you don't like Isekai. It's not even a bad setup for a genre it's just used as a basis for power fantasy by men with weird ideas about relationships and women a lot.

          for an example of why it's not a genre issue Narnia is technically an Isekai by the proper rules of the genre.

          • GundamZZ [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Narnia is an isekai. Star Wars is isekai. Iron Man is isekai. Mass delusion under treat-hypnosis is inherently isekai-istic. Sorry to spoil your 'fun.'

            • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              Isn't an isekai a story where the protagonist goes from our world to a new magical one. An example would include Celtic stories of the fairy realm.

              also you seem to be condeming storytelling in general as a symptom of capitalism when all evidence points to storytelling being an older aspect of society than agriculture. People have been telling each other stories since the invention of fire

                • Kuori [she/her]
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                  3 years ago

                  Would it be Isekai if it began with her entering a portal to a parallel universe?

                  yeah 100%

                  but all that happens in twilight is that the masquerade slips, which places it much more comfortably in urban fantasy

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    • Llituro [he/him, they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Ok, but like yeah that's exactly what I hate about that shit, it indulges in deifying all of anglo society's worst demons.

  • Soap_Owl [any]
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    3 years ago

    I briefly dated a woman I would write and text her erotic twilight fan fiction randomly.

    It didn't last. She was in fact way cooler than me

      • Soap_Owl [any]
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        3 years ago

        It never would have worked out. She was team edward, and I was team get smeared into a paste across the abs of two magic boys.

        You know how they would give you a frozen otter pop to cool off after you got to hot. Kinda like that. Just actualizing thr dialectic to find sticky synthesis

  • StuporTrooper [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    I read the first Twilight book in one day, eventually read all four. I was tricked though, my friend didn't sell them to me as romance novels didn't even mention that. He said they were cool novels about modern vampires who fought werewolves. Was waiting for the werewolves the entire first book.