My mom is like 60 and revealed to me that she was deep into twilight. My mom is also an evangelical (maybe not as loony as some, but still...).
Anyways yeah, you're gonna have to carry that weight.
I'm not sure YOU understand. :volcel-judge: :bonk: :volcel-vanguard: :volcel-judge:
Robert Pattinson's admission that he hated acting in the movies and that those scowls were his unironic contempt for them actually made me like him a little more.
I'm not saying you're not allowed to enjoy them. Because I didn't, though, that little bit of trivia lore was neat for me. :blob-no-thoughts:
Nothing actually, I think romance/genre fiction is really fun and the only problem is people not really recognizing that it's not very reflective of reality. Like the dudes in this picture can realize the harem slop they consume is much different from romance slop that women tend to like until they swap genders, which is both hilarious and sad.
I still have a super soft spot for Tolkien's love take of Beren and Luthien (I swear this must be rooted in a deeply trad-oriented upbringing), and even that is not really much better than any other silly romance story.
After seeing this comment, I realize the most romance containing piece of fiction that I have read is 1984. Hmm...
For as much shit as people give Orwell (deservedly, the bastard man he was) I think the "do it to her! Do it to Julia!" was a genuinely powerful moment. :19: :84: was a very entertaining book to read as an 18 year old.
g-gg-girl?!?!
:hyperflush:
highly protective feral women is a genre that needs to be explored more
Of course these gender norms are totally fake, plenty of straight dudes want a rich domineering charismatic muscle girl to take care of their problems or they would if they'd let themselves.
Need me strong wolf girl to tear a cop into pieces when they pull me over
You seeing weeb heads explode over makima? Everything is either evil or hot depending on how exactly an individual feels in the moment.
:lady-doge: broke the anti big woman inhibitor chip in a lot of men and big strong woman is legitimately becoming more widely accepted as attractive.
plenty of straight dudes want a rich domineering charismatic muscle girl to take care of their problems
I just want a nice labor aristocrat to sweep me off my feet and take me away from all this.
What the fuck am I psychologically healthy?
Cause that still sounds like shit
I personally did not pop a semi when Lady Dimitrescu butterflied my left hand like a chicken breast
:geordi-no: Popping a semi when Lady Dimitrescu mutilates you
:geordi-yes: Popping a semi when Lady Dimitrescu calls you "Man-thing"
:sicko-charging: popping a semi when her daughters surround you and infest your body with demonic insects
they are joking: obviously the story is still incredibly inane
Y-yeah, haha. Dimitrescu was just a meme! I prefer N-NOT to be stepped on as it would be bad lol
:sweat:
I am definitely not looking forward to experiencing the castle again in PSVR2
Pffft there's no way she counts. She specifically wants to eat you and nothing else.
Right? Right??? :stalin-stressed:
Horniness usually isn't an illness. I separate the fiction of being butchered by general esdeath from Akame ga kill separate from the reality of keeping the volcel pledge.
i mean, the POVs of view here are that twilight is trash, regardless of gender identification with the protagonist; and that the dismissal (by scolds) of criticism of "women's" texts (by dudebros), which often suggests that the dude-critics only dislike these texts because the dude-critics are unable to identify with non-dude protagonists, is totally absurd when the texts criticized by the dudebros are, like twilight, totally trash, right?
no one in that thread has actually failed to identify with or have empathy for any actually written or hypothetically written vampire characters.
it's clearly both trash aimed at women is being judged under a harsher lens than trash aimed at men
That's the way it feels. Guys are allowed to be straight creepy with women, but women aren't allowed to want someone who gives off those creepy traits in a way that's safe.
It's kinda ironic. These incels who give women the creeps refuse to make themselves actually safe, therefore becoming attractive.
I mean this is a book series about a girl who is creeped out by a guy but it turns out he's safe to her. I mean that sounds like a perfectly rational fantasy for several women to have given the lack of safety for women in general.
Lmao. Twilight is the western equivalent to yandare. :data-laughing: Oh, Im going to use this knowledge for evil.
Tbf, if you compare to some anime, Twilight is pretty tame really. I mean... Really tame... The biggest difference is the anime will throw a bunch of weird comical hijinks and fan service.
Twilight is a Christian book, even if it isn't usually thought of as one. It's tame compared to everything.
I initially read LSD Church and was ready to give myself to the lord
Well, they'll just be administering it to other people though
No in the sixties they definitely drugged each other in the office lol. Source: trust me bro.
Probably lol, but these days I imagine they're a lot less lax with who gets the keys to the LSD fridge
I wasn't talking about hentai. lol. I was talking about actual TV anime. Hentai goes into a whole other realm of fucked up shit.
"I don't like trashy smut for women"
"Have you considered that you like trashy smut for men?"
:surprised-pika:
for trashy smut they are more well made than usual too the reason they get so much hate is for all their many flaws they are at least entertaining as a concept which keeps the conversation rolling if they were dull talking about them would be less fun
Trashy smut for women: 50000 words of emotional and sexual synergy with the most awkward flowery metaphors
Trashy smut for men: big tiddy waifu comics
You hate Twilight because chick lit bad.
I hate Twilight because I hate edgy cliched isekai fantasies about yandere monsters fighting over bland ego-insert senpai with unconditional over the top infatuation to the point of literally trying to kill each other.
We are not the same. :gigachad:
It's like reverse-isekai where the supernatural world/characters/powers are brought to the character.
That's just the genre of urban fantasy
you can't just call any fiction you don't like Isekai. It's not even a bad setup for a genre it's just used as a basis for power fantasy by men with weird ideas about relationships and women a lot.
for an example of why it's not a genre issue Narnia is technically an Isekai by the proper rules of the genre.
Narnia is an isekai. Star Wars is isekai. Iron Man is isekai. Mass delusion under treat-hypnosis is inherently isekai-istic. Sorry to spoil your 'fun.'
Isn't an isekai a story where the protagonist goes from our world to a new magical one. An example would include Celtic stories of the fairy realm.
also you seem to be condeming storytelling in general as a symptom of capitalism when all evidence points to storytelling being an older aspect of society than agriculture. People have been telling each other stories since the invention of fire
Would it be Isekai if it began with her entering a portal to a parallel universe?
yeah 100%
but all that happens in twilight is that the masquerade slips, which places it much more comfortably in urban fantasy
i guess i differentiate between isekai and real-world-but-magical since the former usually involves going elsewhere and the latter involves an unveiling of something that has always existed but in "the real world"
but i agree that strict genre definitions are silly and i don't really think it's worth putting much thought into
I don't hate isekai itself. In fact some of my favorite old stories are technically isekai in the broader sense (The Neverending Story comes to mind).
I hate the creative/metagame rut it's in, where it's so cynical and pandering that modern isekai often acknowledges how copy of a copy it is becoming in its own premise. "Oh wow I died and am in fantasy world just like in my isekais, time to have fanservice moments with obedient fawning dubiously aged waifus that are obsessed over my mediocrity to the point of fighting over it!" :so-true:
It has all the hallmarks of it, including the supernatural, but in a way it's lazier because it's brought to the bland ego-insert's doorstep.
Ok, but like yeah that's exactly what I hate about that shit, it indulges in deifying all of anglo society's worst demons.
I briefly dated a woman I would write and text her erotic twilight fan fiction randomly.
It didn't last. She was in fact way cooler than me
It never would have worked out. She was team edward, and I was team get smeared into a paste across the abs of two magic boys.
You know how they would give you a frozen otter pop to cool off after you got to hot. Kinda like that. Just actualizing thr dialectic to find sticky synthesis
these people are literally unable to think about things
They literally need to be brainwashed/re-educated
I read the first Twilight book in one day, eventually read all four. I was tricked though, my friend didn't sell them to me as romance novels didn't even mention that. He said they were cool novels about modern vampires who fought werewolves. Was waiting for the werewolves the entire first book.
This is the plot of like half the animes that came out in the 2000s
