• GnastyGnuts [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    If she ran again and lost to Trump a second time, it would be the funniest shit ever. Shit, the campaign would be funny af, trump would constantly be ripping on her over beating her the first time, and she'd be fuming and trying to play cool and just looking like a malfunctioning robot.

    Also, it would be funny af if Trump brought up her connections with Jeff Epstein and Jizzy Maxwell, and when she brings up his connection, he just goes "Naw, that part's a lie. You were there though. And I wouldn't be there ... if they'd let someone like you around, frankly."

      • IAMOBSCENE [none/use name]
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        2 years ago

        Weird but good dunking on Hillary from the primaries for anyone interested: https://libertas.lt/bal/its-her-turn/

        Also FWIW this latest buzz is generated by one of the fake Dem talking heads on Fox and Hilldog herself recently claimed there was no chance of her running.

      • W_Hexa_W
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        1 year ago

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    • LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA [he/him]
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      2 years ago

      If a Trump v. Hillary re-run happens and her inevitable loss doesn't immediately radicalize every liberal into a violent frothing communist, we can just pack it in. Nothing can be done.

        • LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I'd love to see Hillary against Biden in the primary, and then they blame Biden for being too left. How fucking hilarious would that be

            • FreakingSpy [he/him]
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              2 years ago

              Yeah, we all know they'd blame Bernie even if he was dead by then hahaha

              They already blame him for Roe v. Wade being overturned...

      • MerryChristmas [any]
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        2 years ago

        While I understand your pessimism, we can never pack it in. There is always work to do.

        • LENINSGHOSTFACEKILLA [he/him]
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          2 years ago

          I don't think Hillary is actually running. I think this hypothetical is nearly impossible, so I'm allowed to exaggerate, damn it.

    • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      It's ironic that the farce-ness of history repeating itself that would reignite my hog-like desire to observe national electoral politics in the US :sicko-beaming:

  • LeninsRage [he/him]
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    2 years ago

    "The whispers of Clinton 2024 have started, because I'm reporting on the only person making them, namely, me." -Chris Slugzilla

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    2 years ago

    When people told me they hated Hillary Clinton or (far worse) that they were “not fans,” I wish I had said in no uncertain terms: “I love Hillary Clinton. I am in awe of her. I am set free by her. She will be the finest world leader our galaxy has ever seen.”

    I wish, in those exchanges, I had not asked gentle, tolerant questions about a hater’s ridiculous allergy to her, or Clinton’s fictional misdeeds and imagined character flaws. More deeply still, I wish I had not reasoned with anyone, patiently countered their ludicrous emotionalism and psychologically disturbed theories. I wish I had said, flatly, “I love her.” As if I had been asked about my mother or daughter. No defensiveness or polemics; not dignifying the crazy allegations with so much as a Snopes link.

    Maybe “I love her” seemed too womany, too sentimental, too un-pragmatic. Not coalition-building, kind of culty. But people say with impunity they love Obama, the state of Israel, their churches, Kurt Cobain. In the end, I wish I’d said it because it’s true.

    And I’m not alone in my commitment. Millions of Clinton’s supporters — we were thanked by Clinton as the “secret, private Facebook sites” — expressed it among themselves, all the time, in raptures or happy tears with each new display of our heroine’s ferocious intelligence, depth, and courage. We were frankly bewildered by the idea that anyone would hedge their commitment to her (“You don’t have to be her friend”; “Yes, she’s made mistakes”; “lesser of two evils”). We didn’t remember anyone turning to this stock ambivalence when discussing Obama, Babe Ruth, FDR. If only one reporter — they knew about us — could have published a headline like “Clinton Inspires Historic Levels of Adoration From Her Supporters” about the people who have had their lives transformed by the power of her brilliant campaign, unrivaled effectiveness, and extraordinary career. Just one headline like that, like the ones Bill Clinton got.

    Usually a legend is made by men and media — the legend of Kennedy, say, or Jim Morrison — and then, much later, a biopic, pretending to evenhandedness, reveals the legend’s shortcomings, his “human” side. The shortcomings are almost always something exactly no one actually believes compromises his heroism. His problem drinking. His mistreatment of women. Well, takedowns of Hillary were always already written. She has somehow made the time to hear out each dead-end line of reasoning about her fake mortal sins, and often she has also thanked everyone for sparing her further moral lashings, as if that were a kindness. Under cover of “humanizing” the intimidating valedictorian, reports and investigations and media clichés vilified her. But the feminist hero never got to be a legend first. And yet she is one, easily surpassing Ben Franklin, Henry Ford, Steve Jobs.

    I want to reverse the usual schedule of things, then. We don’t have to wait until she dies to act. Hillary Clinton’s name belongs on ships, and airports, and tattoos. She deserves straight-up hagiographies and a sold-out Broadway show called RODHAM. Yes, this cultural canonization is going to come after the chronic, constant, nonstop “On the other hand” sexist hedging around her legacy. But such is the courage of Hillary Clinton and her supporters; we reverse patriarchal orders. Maybe she is more than a president. Maybe she is an idea, a world-historical heroine, light itself. The presidency is too small for her. She belongs to a much more elite class of Americans, the more-than-presidents. Neil Armstrong, Martin Luther King Jr., Alexander Fucking Hamilton.

    Hillary Clinton did everything right in this campaign, and she won more votes than her opponent did. She won. She cannot be faulted, criticized, or analyzed for even one more second. Instead, she will be decorated as an epochal heroine far too extraordinary to be contained by the mere White House. Let that revolting president-elect be Millard Fillmore or Herbert Hoover or whatever. Hillary is Athena.

    • sooper_dooper_roofer [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      how would she drag votes away from Biden? how would she actually even run in the first place? Are they just assuming Biden will be dead by then (probably a reasonable assumption)

      • HiImThomasPynchon [des/pair, it/its]
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        2 years ago

        You can challenge the sitting president in a primary. While it's unlikely the incumbent president will lose the primary, every president who's received a strong challenger in the primary went on to lose the general election.

        • Cascadia_ [they/them]
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          2 years ago

          I mean its kind of a self-fulfilling prophecy, the existence of a strong challenger at all implies a lack of faith in the incumbent.

    • Aryuproudomenowdaddy [comrade/them]
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      2 years ago

      It will obviously be Bernie's fault, I can see the NYT op ed now. "Yes Bernie Sanders swore his allegiance to Hillary before an altar of blood, but could he have done more to boost her campaign?"

    • swampfox [none/use name]
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      2 years ago

      to be fair Trump was a strong candidate given the national atmosphere - the liberal press/pundits were just too out of touch to realize.

      • invo_rt [he/him]
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        2 years ago

        I don't know if I could ever stop laughing. Full fucking jokerfication

        :jokerfied:

  • TheModerateTankie [any]
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    2 years ago

    Joe will step down when it's too late for primaries and she'll be nominated at the convention.