https://twitter.com/chayesmatthew/status/1773414327556452750

  • AutomatedPossum [she/her]
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    8 months ago

    BTW these things also scan the genital area. If an unoperated trans woman passes through, it flags her for having a hidden weapon in her crotch. This has been a source of forced outings, public humiliation and in some cases outright sexual harassment by flight security staff ever since these machines where introduced at airports, i find the idea that somebody could be forced to endure that before every subway ride absolutely nightmarish.

    • Hurvitz [they/them]
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      8 months ago

      Yeah I was gonna make the trashfuture joke about it being a t-slur detector but honestly its not even funny, this is horrible

      • AutomatedPossum [she/her]
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        8 months ago

        btw a common way to confirm the victim's claim that the alarm was set off by girldick and not by a firearm is to do a patdown in the crotch area, with the gender of the person doing the patdown depending on the airport's levels of transphobia.

        • machiabelly [she/her]
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          8 months ago

          I love having my dick groped every time I want to get on a subway. This happened before a flight and it ruined my whole day. what the fuck.

    • theturtlemoves [he/him]
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      8 months ago

      How would a metal detector sense the shape of your flesh? And how would it know your legal gender?

      • Babs [she/her]
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        8 months ago

        When you go through they gotta press a button guessing your sex. Whether I get patted on the crotch or the bra is a test of how well I pass that day.

  • Ho_Chi_Chungus [she/her]
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    8 months ago

    i don't even have words for this one. this is completely deranged even by US standards. they're going to make you go through the TSA experience every single day. it won't do anything to stop crime or terrorism or anything that it says on its face. they're going to do this, it's going to stay, and the only people who are for it are people who don't use the subway

    god damn america

        • Hurvitz [they/them]
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          8 months ago

          https://www.ebay.com/itm/355562896577

          or redbubble or one of those sites that just algorithmically generates custom merchandise that it can dropship

    • nothx [he/him]
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      8 months ago

      Twice a day at least… Fucking miserable timeline.

    • bdonvr@thelemmy.club
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      8 months ago

      I'm pretty sure Beijing has bag scanners in their metro to be fair. But I don't think they're doing body scanners

  • Absolute@lemmygrad.ml
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    8 months ago

    I love how the NYC subway is quite literally falling apart, by far the most decrepit unsafe looking metro system ive ever been on, and this is where they decide to spend money

    • operacion_ogro [he/him]
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      8 months ago

      The NYC subway is comically loud and bad and dirty, I cringe to think what visitors from places like Tokyo or Hong Kong think when they see it in person for the first time

        • whatup
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          8 months ago

          Except Paris renovated their crappy metro stations. The NYC subway is truly a uniquely shitty class of its own.

      • HexbearGPT [comrade/them]
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        8 months ago

        I love seeing Japanese tourists taking the bus and just cracking up inside, thinking how they must be realizing that the US is a just third world country with big guns in real time.

        Welcome to the shithole empire!

    • Hurvitz [they/them]
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      8 months ago

      Not to say there isn't tons of work to be done but "dingy looking" and ancient =/= unsafe and falling apart. Shit's still safer than driving a car, for example, and it's certainly falling apart less than the T in boston

      • Absolute@lemmygrad.ml
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        8 months ago

        Very true just giving my worthless outsider’s perspective I guess. Almost anything anyone does is safer than driving a car, isn’t it ?

        • wopazoo [he/him]
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          8 months ago

          Theoretically, walking is more dangerous than driving per kilometer. But what this statistic ignores is that you do not walk the same distance that you drive. It also ignores the health benefits of exercise.

      • HexbearGPT [comrade/them]
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        8 months ago

        Now compare it to other countries not other US cities.

        Lmao. Collapsing fucking empire with good PR.

        • Hurvitz [they/them]
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          8 months ago

          There's tons of work to be done to make it a modern system competitive with other nations in terms of technology, cleanliness, speed, etc., but it's not to the level of unsafe and falling apart. I'm just a little defensive because this is exactly how people who want to gut transit describe it, and its over-sensationalized.

          • DefinitelyNotAPhone [he/him]
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            8 months ago

            Just because it's functional doesn't mean it's not a dilapidated shithole. There's so many trains and routes in the subway that are one bad day away from 6 months of shutdown for maintenance, including some critical bottlenecks between the outer boroughs and Manhattan, and the MTA would rather spend hundreds of millions on security theater.

            I love living in a place where public transit is a legitimate option, but much like the bridge in Baltimore I'm just waiting to see the whole thing collapse under it's own weight while the rich fucks in charge just shrug their shoulders and inform us it'll be $20 billion into their pockets and 15 years to get 40% functionality back.

    • Tunnelvision [they/them]
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      8 months ago

      That sucks to hear as someone who’s never been on a subway other than in GTA4. Being able to go from one end of my city to the other without driving sounds nice.

      • lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml
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        8 months ago

        It's amazing honestly, I only wish they would keep making it better where I live instead of letting it get rusty while increasing the price

    • whatup
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      8 months ago

      Even Paris finally updated their worst stations. Charlet and Les Halles are pristine.

  • Aliveelectricwire [it/its]
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    8 months ago

    China: high speed rail and efficiency

    America: You have to be scanned and there will be a cop with a drug dog

  • Rojo27 [he/him]
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    8 months ago

    Uh... wtfcringe

    “This is our Sputnik moment,” Adams said at a news conference at Fulton Transit Center in Lower Manhattan. “Like when Kennedy said we’re going to put a man on the moon. ... Let’s bring on the scanners.”

    https://gothamist.com/news/nypd-to-test-scanners-with-ai-tech-to-crack-down-on-guns-in-nyc-subway

  • Futterbinger [he/him, they/them]
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    8 months ago

    This has got to be a set up for some kind of rent seeking behavior right? They'll definitely create some kind of fast pass that costs $100 dollars a month that you'll need to pass a background check, have a social security number, and a permanent address to obtain.

    • psychoplantkiller [he/him]
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      8 months ago

      I would expect as much. You're describing what already exists in airports, except you also have to pass an in-person interview to be considered.

      • bdonvr@thelemmy.club
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        8 months ago

        I mean, TSA pre is only $16/yr. That is if you haven't outed yourself as an enemy of the state yet

  • Dolores [love/loves]
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    8 months ago

    are they trying to privatise & dismantle the subway? decrease ridership, pump costs, making it this theatrical political problem?

    then it'll be proposed that a private interest can rejuvenate and solve all these manufactured problems

  • Infamousblt [any]
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    8 months ago

    Bit idea: Get a bunch of people who have gun shaped objects strapped to them to continuously walk through these to bog the entire system down so the rest of the complacent New Yorkers rebel against it too.

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    8 months ago

    What the fuck has happened in New York to justify the need for airport level security in subways?

    • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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      8 months ago

      They hired a cop to be mayor.

      This is probably all about shutting down the next blm or occupy or whatever by creating check points at transit hubs.

      • Aliveelectricwire [it/its]
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        8 months ago

        In Chicago during the BLM protests they shut down the trains and then raised all the bridges so you couldn't get out then issued a curfew. They literally made a giant kettle

        • HexbearGPT [comrade/them]
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          8 months ago

          That’s when you start burning shit down.

          I was in a kettle once and the crowd was pushed against a citibank. well those bank windows got smashed and people streamed into the bank and trashed it and escaped through it. Lmao. Hundreds still got arrested, but many escaped.

    • sempersigh [he/him]
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      8 months ago

      It doesn’t bear out statistically that the subway is dangerous this is literally because of crime stories that go viral that create this perception. If you use the argument I just made people will literally accuse you of gaslighting them. Oh oh and another thing the New Yorkers who scream the loudest about this shit are the ones that DONT ride the subway; they’re fucking cowards. I’ve spent thousands of hours on the subway while there have been uncomfortable moments I have never been attacked or thought I was going to be attacked. It’s fucking safe as fuck; I’ve been to plenty of places in America where I felt unsafe and I’m telling you the nyc subway is fucking safe as fuckkkk. People are racist cowards.

      Edit: I don’t want to sound too dismissive though as I’m a tall dude and at the end of the day; In the same way it can be sketchy to walk in certain parts of town at 2am as a woman the same is for the subway; sexual harassment happens and just like nearly every woman has a story of being sexually harassed/assaulted above ground; nearly every woman I talk to that rides the subway has a story of something happening down there. Obviously the fascist security theater in the OP won’t have any impact on that whatsoever but yeah safety is relative and I understand engrained misogyny can create very different perceptions of these environments for woman, trans, GNC ect

        • HexbearGPT [comrade/them]
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          8 months ago

          Yeah But have you considered that chickenshit private school rich kids and adults want to be able to ride the subway now, so everyone has to be strip searched and anally probed so that the chickenshits feel safe.

          Duh.

      • Philosoraptor [he/him, comrade/them]
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        8 months ago

        This was my experience also. I lived in NYC for almost a decade, and never once did I feel unsafe anywhere in the entire city. This includes doing things like taking the subway and walking home alone at 3:00 in the morning. It was just an incredibly safe feeling city. I too was a young white guy in excellent physical shape at that point, but while I'm sure that influenced things somewhat, I simply don't believe that anywhere in NYC is so dangerous that this is a reasonable option.

    • Aliveelectricwire [it/its]
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      8 months ago

      Wasn't there like a stabbing by a serial attacker and the cops hid until the guy who was being stabbed subdued him by himself?

      • barrbaric [he/him]
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        8 months ago

        Yep, much like in Uvalde the cops won't actually do the part of the job people claim they're needed for.

    • TheDoctor [they/them]
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      8 months ago

      Paranoia, mostly

      In mid-2022, there was about one violent crime per one million rides on the subway, according to a New York Times analysis. Since then, the overall crime rate has fallen and ridership has increased, making the likelihood of being a victim of a violent crime even more remote. Last year, overall crime in the transit system fell nearly 3 percent compared with 2022 as the number of daily riders rose 14 percent.

      The downward trend stalled early this year, with the number of major crimes in the transit system jumping in January before dipping again in February. Through March 3, there had been three homicides in the system, compared with one and the same period last year, according to police data. Overall, major crimes, including felony assaults, burglaries and grand larcenies, have increased 13 percent so far this year, the data shows.

      Through Feb. 25, the authorities tallied six assaults against subway employees, up from five last year, according to police data.

      source

  • operacion_ogro [he/him]
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    8 months ago

    How the fuck is this even a little bit feasible at any station during rush hour

  • regul [any]
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    8 months ago

    mfs saw the TSA and were like: Brilliant!

  • WIIHAPPYFEW [he/him, they/them]
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    8 months ago

    Sorry that rent’s 80% of your income, but we gotta spend countless dozens of millions of dollars to instate martial law to stop the post-COVID surge of crime to its rates during the violent era of uhhhhh

    checks chart

    the early 2010s