2 weeks to flatten the curve guys

  • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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    8 months ago

    The Food and Drug Administration said Tuesday that fragments of the bird flu virus had been detected in some samples of pasteurized milk in the U.S.

    That’s a key word to leave out of the headline god damn. That would mean pasteurization did its job, whereas the headline implies to me “pasteurization does not kill this virus,” which would be a lot more concerning

    • BigBoyKarlLiebknecht [he/him, comrade/them]
      hexagon
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      8 months ago

      According to an FDA study relying on 2016 and 2019 data, 4.4 percent of Americans report consuming raw milk in the past year, although the number has almost certainly grown since then.

      • https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/03/10/the-alt-right-rebrand-of-raw-milk-00145625

      yea

      • Grandpa_garbagio [he/him]
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        8 months ago

        That's a way fucking bigger number than I thought what the hell. You gotta like have a guy for that.

        It's akin to telling me 1 in 20 of us have a moonshine guy. Which this board may not be the best sample size for as im sure it skews higher than that

        • the_itsb [she/her, comrade/them]
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          8 months ago

          I know both a raw milk lady and a moonshine guy 🤔

          not interested in either product, but kinda feeling special now to have this direct access to lethal homemade consumables

                • Grandpa_garbagio [he/him]
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                  8 months ago

                  It's possible if it's adulterated with just methanol but the cure for methanol is ethanol, so the only real significant cases of this happening were when feds were intentionally poisoning supplies during prohibition

                  https://slate.com/technology/2010/02/the-little-told-story-of-how-the-u-s-government-poisoned-alcohol-during-prohibition.html

                  Not saying it doesn't happen but it's rare as hell outside of intention

            • AMDIsOurLord@lemmy.ml
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              8 months ago

              Guys chill the fuck out if it's from a farm that has vaccinated animals and you consume the product fresh (within the same day or so) it should be relatively safe (although you must boil it before drinking)

              The danger of raw milk is when you buy from a dodgy farm that doesn't do Malt Fever vaccinations or you keep it for a few days

        • mars [none/use name]
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          8 months ago

          I used to live in a rural area with a lot of small farms and there was this loophole where you'd pay a company for partial ownership of a cow, and then they'd deliver raw milk to you. This was their way around laws prohibiting the sale of raw milk, since if you own a cow you're allowed to drink the milk raw if you want. So yeah unfortunately there's easy ways to get it if you live near farmers and shit.

        • Maoo [none/use name]
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          8 months ago

          Raw milk is a real rural woo woo thing. Rural culture has its own brand of essential oils weirdos that do shit like this.

          • VILenin [he/him]
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            8 months ago

            “natural” grocery stores

            So same thing but double the price?

        • Galli [comrade/them]
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          8 months ago

          More like 1 in 20 households having a moonshine guy which is probably more like 1 in 100 directly interacting with the moonshine guy.

        • invalidusernamelol [he/him]
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          8 months ago

          In my region 1 in 5 have a moonshine guy and about the same have a milk/egg guy.

          1 in 20 have more than one of each

      • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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        8 months ago

        Good, I'm sad I'll never get to see an awesome fallout style future, but at least these based Chads are making me feel like we're in a future that's lost the benefits of modern science! Them and the people forgoing vaccines are the closest I'll get to fallout!

    • GlueBear [they/them, comrade/them]
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      8 months ago

      Not me sitting here thinking dairy companies are also skimping on the pasteurizing process 👀

      Real "The Jungle" hours

      • Rx_Hawk [he/him]
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        8 months ago

        Just buy random penny stocks, works 100% of the time 1% of the time

  • Sasuke [comrade/them]
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    8 months ago

    this shit is a ticking time bomb. very cool that the lesson my country seems to have taken from covid is that lockdown is bad, and vaccines are scary

    • Rx_Hawk [he/him]
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      8 months ago

      They’ve developed language and rhetoric against the COVID vaccines, just wait for the next one sadness

  • BelieveRevolt [he/him]
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    8 months ago

    Cow's milk? Well, we're safe then, because it's not like any human would or should drink something meant for baby cows smuglord

  • Rojo27 [he/him]
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    8 months ago

    Everything is fine... I think I've heard that one beforeyea

      • someone [comrade/them, they/them]
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        8 months ago

        The rulers of America did learn. They learned that Americans are willing to accept mass casualties from a pandemic so long as they could still go out for dinner and movies.

  • RNAi [he/him]
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    8 months ago

    I had a Roz-when-RGB-died-laugh moment

  • SpiderFarmer [he/him]
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    8 months ago

    Ah, I was hoping to go to some open mics and stuff. One of my jam sessions requires a Covid test and that's understandable.

    • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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      8 months ago

      Well, it wouldn't be good to put it simply. Bird flu is an Influenza A virus. It could be a blip on the radar as flu season comes around or, as Wikipedia puts it

      A bird-adapted strain of H5N1, called HPAI A(H5N1) for highly pathogenic avian influenza virus of type A of subtype H5N1, is the highly pathogenic causative agent of H5N1 flu, commonly known as avian influenza ("bird flu"). It is enzootic (maintained in the population) in many bird populations, especially in Southeast Asia.

      You could end up with a highly pathogenic common cold going around. As I like to think about it, if you're adapted to a different animal, you're not calibrated to survive with humans as a host. If you accidentally manage to survive via mutation, then you could do some real damage instead of the mild illness that lets you prolong how long you're there so you can shed more virus into the environment.

    • Maoo [none/use name]
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      8 months ago

      A higher mortality rate than COVID and everyone's immune systems are already a bit fucked due to the deliberate mishandling of COVID.

  • Dolores [love/loves]
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    8 months ago

    seems like a pretty unlikely vector for a respiratory virus, isn't it?

    • GlueBear [they/them, comrade/them]
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      8 months ago

      Someone already posted the full quote. They found fragments of the virus in the milk, which obvs isn't going infect anyone.

      But that still means ⬆️ risk of animal to human infection and the even higher risk of human to human infection.

      • Dolores [love/loves]
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        8 months ago

        But that still means ⬆️ risk of animal to human infection and the even higher risk of human to human infection

        i think that remains to be seen, 'fragments' might just be what a successful protective measure looks like. do viruses leave 'fragments' after other disinfectant treatments?

        • Rx_Hawk [he/him]
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          8 months ago

          Yes, when something causes the virus to burst/lyse, the bits are still gonna be there. The issue is the fragments are even in milk in the first place.

    • Rx_Hawk [he/him]
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      8 months ago

      I mean you're putting it in your mouth, the same place you breath out of.

    • Owl [he/him]
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      8 months ago

      You haven't tried huffing milk???

  • fubarx@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    So... heat pasteurizing the milk kills the virus. What if it gets on raw vegetables and fruits?

    We're ready to stop another pandemic, right? RIGHT?