Something about knowing that people out there find this kind of content compelling is so depressing it feels me with utter dread. Like to add insult to injury of course the person reacting to the video essay is gonna be constantly pausing throughout it so it should take at LEAST twice as long to finish the video.
So… if someone is reacting to THAT reaction it’s gonna take like 8 hours to get to the end of the video like jesus christ WHAT on earth are you people doing.
I stopped watching breadtube after 2020 and looking back it was one of the best decisions I’ve ever made.
Yeah, occasionally I remember that I used to religiously watch, like, The Serfs or whoever reacting to some dumb bullshit Tim Pool was saying and I uncontrollably cringe. Just making your mental health worse and learning nothing lmao
Honestly, a significant portion of online political posting is just "look at this thing this random person said and get real mad about it and then do nothing" and I think it drives people crazy.
That certainly happens on here but it's not as bad as, say, twitter. I can't tell you how many times i've followed an account with good takes and they just spend 90% of their time having quote tweet arguments with their reactionary du jour
Kind of highlights why so many religions have terrible punishments for gossip. They foresaw twitter but failed to avert it.
100%, and yeah, it's absolutely sanity draining if you go too far down the rabbit hole
Same but like 2019 when I found out it's basically a massive high school clique
I mean the decision was pretty easy when they turned out to suck and just be a bunch of radlibs
Same. I took years to finally fix my yt recommendations too cause of breadtube. I still get recs for Jose though and I'll watch a new HBomner vid if it's something I might be interested in but that's it. I just don't care about any of the content, none of it felt very thought provoking or worth my time
I still get their videos recommended and it's mostly people stretching to make any piece of pop culture somehow leftist.
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There is nothing inherently wrong with longer videos. It all comes down to personal taste, and the Hexbear contingent who makes a point of yelling about them are simple contrarians.
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Reaction videos on the other hand are generally garbage and a waste of bandwidth.
I don't feel superior, I just think editors can bring a lot of value to something. Sometimes people need to be told they're rambling and to cut out the excess so that the purpose of a thing is clear. I don't have to watch a weird rambling mess of a video when there's near infinite forms of video I can watch.
Note: I am not describing any specific video. I have never watched Contrapoints. This is my opinion on making pretty much anything. If an artist/creator does not want an editor, I do not think they are lesser. I just think it can make something more valuable than it might have been otherwise.
And some of those are very good. Like I think HBomb and Defunctland have made some very good, pointed videos. They're long, but not rambling. You can feel that things were cut out because they didn't serve the purpose.
If a book could be 40 pages and instead it's 500, it needs editing. Same with videos
I never said I feel superior, just physically attacked when someone wants me to watch a video that's longer than 5 minutes.
I don't often watch long videos but it's based on the fact that I've found most of them are annoying and/or rubbish and I just don't have/don't want to devote the time to them.
If I've got time to kill and have thought other content by them is good, I don't have a problem with length. I'd probably try more content creators if they varied the length or medium of their output, but if they only put out 1hr+ YouTube I'm a lot less likely to.
Conceptually sure there's nothing wrong with longer videos and leftist content does have to be longer than liberal videos because it often also has to fight against public perception.
BUT anything over 1 hour is just made worse by its length, I could right now find some lecture on Marx by some german professor that clocks in at 1 hour and maybe 10minutes and it only goes over the hour mark because he's taking questions from a crowd. To me there's no reason a youtuber can waffle on about a subject for longer than some old philosophy professor.
BUT anything over 1 hour is just made worse by its length
Martin Scorsese on death watch
There is nothing inherently wrong with longer videos.
Nothing inherently wrong with long videos, but it's something encouraged by the engagement algorithm and you can tell a bunch of video essays pad stuff to reach these 1+ hour lenghts, either by nitpicking or by providing needless context. HOWEVER if they fill these padding segments with jokes I won't mind that much.
Counterpoint: It's extremely fucking unlikely that the same point couldn't have been made in a video that's way shorter. A lot of these "video essayists" seem like they really love hearing themselves talk a lot.
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It’s makes me appreciate it when Hasan yells at his chat for suggesting he watch these 1 hr+ vids. He already takes an hour to watch a 20 min vid. FD Signifier or ContraPoints would take the entire day.
And Quinton Reviews would straight up murder our boy.
That Bo Burnham video where there's an infinite string of reacting to the reactions is pretty spot on.
IIRC the right wing YouTuber MauLer released three 8 hour videos that were supposed to be a moment by moment criticism of The Last Jedi.
I mean, I didn’t like the movie either, but what the fuck?
If I ever had to torture someone I'd totally use that vid on repeat
The one person on earth who actually watched the full length of those videos is 100% confirmed a serial killer.
I honestly like those videos, they’re very thorough but also have lots of outside context and background and stuff, it’s great background noise that is interesting enough
Mauler is a fucking loser who should be walled, though. But He’s not wrong about those movies imo
The work I do leaves me with the ability to listen to things, but not things I have to give full attention to. So an infinite video about star wars (or a 30 hour Skyrim retrospective for example) is something I can listen to without needing to catch every narrative thrust or moment
Jenny Nicholson is the best tho
You have a problem with condensing your points if your criticism is over ten times longer than the film itself.
On the other hand there's a 13 hour essay on Morrowind I quite like.
13 hours is condensed if you consider how much time you can spend in Morrowind
I think the funniest part of this drama is that contra's video is 1:40 hour long but she talks about v*ust for about 30-60 seconds, and the rest of the video is about terfs and jkr
All this drama for a clips that you could easily miss
Synecdoche, New York but it's Breadtubers reacting to Breadtubers until they create an isolated society that collapses
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Leon_Grotsky responds to sempersigh responding to Lonerbox responding to V*ush responding to Contrapoints responding to *Latest fad - Video length: 485 years
Lmao I forgot who made the analogy of the liberal youtuber reaction human centipede but it is very fitting.
We have america's top online Predditor in chief Ian cuckinski starting things off with his pro-NATO grunts and squeals, somehow managing to contribute less than nothing to the original content, followed by that pathetic neoliberal british maggot lonersocks eagerly lapping up the resulting verbal diarrhoea like a starved pup and re-shitting it out into the void for a myriad of other bottom feeding western liberal lifeforms to reshill for whatever meagre streamerbuxx AM's algorithm tosses their way.
ContraPoints: "Blah blah blah blah blah, Vaush sucks, blah blah blah blah blah. Now I've fed the hogs. I'll maybe post something new in 6 months."
Vaushites: ơ̴̧̨͔̺͇͍̬̮̤͑̃̀̀̄̈̀̀͐̽̒͠͠ͅm̷͍̻̎ġ̶̢̞͚̩̟͔̟̋ ̵̺̋̾I̶̼̳̮̺̻̜̍̎͊̊͜ ̴̨̹̘͓͖̘̻̙͊͌̈̾͜ͅh̴͚̥̿͋̎̕͘ạ̶̳̫̝̖̲͉̻̐͑̄̎̊̈́̿͑́̉͐t̷͎̬̠̠̖̹̠̓̐̈́̋́͜͝ẻ̸̘̲̱̜͖̬̪̣͋̌̾̇̋̍͊̎̊̏͆̚ ̶̣̭́̿̔͐͐̇̀̈͒͂̐͠͠y̸̺̩̺̰̣̭̖̜̼̤̙̬͈͛͛̎̀̓́̈̈́̊͠o̷̡̯̦̝̥̹̺͈̭̤̻̥̰̝̿͑̾̄̀̎̀̉͑͂̾͘͜͠ư̴̧͇̤̟̘̹̥̲̲̪͑̎̈́͋̒̒̚͜͝ ̸̛͙̤̊͒̄̒̏͑͐̋̄̅̑͌̌s̸̖̬̙̮̣̠̼̹͎̥̖͖͇͎̾ͅő̶̖͍̯͈̱͝ ̶̢̣̤̜͎͖̮̩̤̫̭̬̲̆͆̓̓̏͜m̸̢̡͎̼̙̒͌͛͐́̐̐͐̀̓u̶̧̟̪̱͇̠̫̱͍͈̦̻͑̈̀̄̀͒͝č̷͓̭͇͓̟̝̫̭̞̯̬̪͖̒ͅh̴̺͔̰͈͇̋́̐̌̉̃͌͆̌̓̉͐̌̚͝ ̷̛̦͖̼̖̞̉̆̕y̶̢̧̢̛͍͍͎͚͇͙͙̿͐̄͐̾̃͆͛̔̚͠͠͠o̸̲͉͔̖̥̞̟̼̙̼͈̘͈̝̜͆̓̍ǘ̶͉̻͍̬̣̬̼̳̠̟̐̈́̑̏ ̷̱̼͓͍͖̹̝͖̤̇̏͆͆̒͆́̄̅͐š̷̹̦͎̈̇̓̈́́͝t̴̯͕͍̞̓̐̅̏̅͋́̈̉̑̈͠u̸̗̺̰͍̜̫̳͓̹̥̖̠͒̆͒̈͛̃̾̈͠͝p̴̛̣̪͉̞̯̜̻̭͇͒͒͂̀̇̄͂͌̕̕ͅi̶͕͚͐͊̓̉͝ḑ̸̢̣̱̩̾̍̈́ ̷̧̡̝̜̼̬̤̜̩͇̀̅̈́̈́i̸͔̘̜̘̳̖͓̤̗̮̻͛͆̉̈́̉͋̔̕͜͜͠d̴̢̨̮̼̗̰̥̙͍̦͚͆̋į̵̛̬̺̖͔͉͇̳̲͔͕̞̤̱̠͗̎̌̿̾̎́̐̈͌̌͠õ̵̢̖̝̳̇́́̑̆̚ţ̵̪̞̫̼̳̗̻͍͆͂̊̀̚ ̴̨̢̣̯̣͉͚̘̥͙̥̮̮̤̎̏͛́̓͋͋̂̀f̴͔͊̈̈̀̈́̏͒͝ụ̶͎̺̗̠͓͔̰̑̍̍̌͋̚̚͠͝͝c̴̘̹̱̖̞̟̒͋͛̓̇̓̀͝k̶͇̠̮̯̜̮̱̃̍̍̇͆̉̈́̃̿̈́̂͝͝͝ͅͅ ̴̛͔͙̣̻̿̐̽̽̍͐̓͆͝ÿ̴̢̛͓̠̜̣̖̫́̀̅͗͗͋̇͛̕o̵̧̞̲̘̱̼̩͖̮̮͚̺̦̅̈́̒̎̾́̉̒̉̑͝ư̷̡̰͚̮̹̪͕͎͍̹̦̰͚̙͆̉͊́̄̌̕ͅ ̶̪̻̠͍͍͖̹͍̬̰̗̖̼̩͋̔̐̈́͒f̵̠̘̰̥̖͙̑̋̀̎͗͆͜͝ṷ̶̢͊͌c̴̡̛̼̣̖̝̖̹̪͈̬̝͙̣̓͐̍͆̆̒̒ķ̵̧͖̭̩͙̞̮̞̦̈̍̾̈́͑̐̈̄͛͂̊̀̚ͅͅ ̸̟̹͇̓̍͑̋̚͝͝͝y̶̨̨̩̭̟̖̝̦͎̟̠̦̰͛͛̅̄̒̋͜͠ơ̶̤̦͔̺̳̈̊̈́͌̑̏͜͠͝͝͠u̷̘̞̍̃̔͑͋̐̊̑̆̂͘ ̴̹̣̘̻̭̖̥̙̭͔͙̖͇̤̟̏́̎ḟ̶̢̩̮̖̼̤͔̺̙̜̜̚ṵ̸̥͓̭͔̭͕̤͉͈͍̺̅̈́̋̑̊̋͝ç̵̼̖̗̈́̅̔̈́̽̃͒͌͂́̽̕͘͘k̸̡̖̹̯͎̺̰͙͔̈́̈́̍̄͂̇̄̏ͅ ̷̨̧̗̞̥͚̙͖̮͈̀̂̾̄ỹ̷̗͇͓͚͔̬͜o̸̢̢̰̼̣̟̟̻̪̝̟̯̻͗̾̎̔̈́̏̽̆̏̈́̂̿͝u̷̞͎̝͆̆̽̔̂͛̍̇̄͘͜ ̶̢̧̰͎͉̗͈̼͕̩̙̗̠͎̏̂̓͘͜ỳ̶̭̪̦͍̠͇̻̬͇̩̌ò̶̹͊̽́͘ṵ̷̟̜̱͕͕͚̇̈́͐͐͋̈́͜͝ ̶̧̛͇̞̖̤͙̳̘̥̘̞́̀̈́̏͜͝d̷̮͓̺̥̭̩͙͙̉̿̂̃̉̐̓̃͘͜͜ǫ̵̨̡̡̛̭͕̙̠̘̗͙͙̗͗̾̍́͋͐͘͝͠ǹ̵̡̢̯̰͉̟͉̠͉̓̅̈́͛̍̓̾̊̚̕'̷̝̰̤̮̝͍̮̫̳̇̍͐̆͛́̔͘͜͜t̴̢̨̖̣̝̱̣̞̰̘͚̰͇̘̾̅͜ ̷͎͓̬̤̑́̉͆̑̍͜͝͝͝ͅk̶̢̞̹͉̬̭̖̳͖̙̖͙̈́̓̈ͅn̵̪̬͈̏̇̀͑̉̌́͌̽̎̽̃͆̕ō̸̡͇̖̦͇̪̰̰͇̫͕̯̄̿͒͆̂̂̊͆͌͜ẅ̷̢̠̺̫̳̝̻́̀̐̉̆̑͂͑̓̅̃̈̈́̚̕ ̵̲̻̣̫̭͎̌a̴̤͚͍̭̮͇̠̫̒̉̀͑̀̏͋̎̄n̸̨̨̞͈͉͙͎̈́͆̈́̀̀́̿̈́͋̕̚͝͝y̵̡̤̼̩̘͈͕̯̘̥̭̎̑̂́̉̓̍͗̾̔͌̅̿̓̓t̵̛̳̆̿͊̓̈́h̸̢̡̨͈͔͚̜̼̭̪̲͔͈̠͌͗ì̴̦͕̭̍̏͒̀̂́̈́̔̕͝n̴̨̫͉͉̲̳̟͉̤̬̳̙̻̜͒̊̏́͌́̅̆̚͜ģ̶̡̮̝̘̪̲͔̣̼͔̞̈̀̋̈́̋̈͋̃̀̚̕ͅͅ ̵̘͉̪͙̹̥̳̟̣̲͈͉̩̀͆͊̊̄̈̋͆͜I̷͙̭͔̯̠͇͌̄̋̀̑̈́͘͜͜ ̴̘̝͒̀̔͒̿̑͂́̒͒̅̀̏͠b̷̺͛ē̷̬̠̯͖̩̣̻̲̦͖͚̘̆̍͛͗̇̓̕̕͜ͅͅt̴̛͔͎̫̬͌̍͑̀́̓͜ ̸̢̨̧̦̫͎̺̣̠̓̍̂͛̐̃̈́̇̈́͑͜͝y̷̲̺̱̙̘̣͚͊̓̆͠o̴̱̮̝͊́̾̂̈́͆̓̎̀͝ų̴̲̗̬͖̜̾̏̿͊́̄͜ ̷̧̛̛̤̖̙͙̣͍͕̣͆̽̅̉̈́̂͒͝ē̶͖̟̈́͛̔̍̈͛̂̕ą̴̡͓͚̹̰͕̙̣̗̲̈́̇̎́̎̓͒̿̎̃̏̕ͅţ̷̨̱̦̟̞̘̜̘̱̠͎̳̔̀̅̾̓̾̃̀͋͛̊͘͠ͅ ̷̦̬̼̘̼͖̪̲̣̱̯̩̺͓͑̍̉͋̽̋b̴̢̧̥̬̯͉͈̟̲̗̠̟̺̜̮͑̍͑̿̉̐̃̈͌͘͝u̴̪͖̤̺͇͂̈́́͛̽̓g̸̢͓̞̫̻͇̙̱͔̖̻̮͆̑̒̓̅̊̊̀̾̌̌͜ͅs̵̡̖̗̪̫̼̘̗͆̈́̿̍͂̊̄͜ ̷̢̼̅͠͝ỹ̷̢̮͎̮̭̬̯̝͎̙͚͈͔̠̎̒̈́̅̂͊̚͝ơ̷̫͕̿̽̓̀̈́͗̓̑̄͘̕ų̸̲̦̩͍͖̘̥̤̙̫̝̐̊̍̓́̊ ̵̛̤̠̊̍̌̎̐̋̇̀̕͘͝͠ş̶͙̘̫̬̥̔̊͛͊͌̇͛̾̄̐͐̀̋͘ţ̴̹͖̦̗͙̟́̏̐̒͊̋͒́̓̈́̔͝ͅü̴̡̧̜̦̙̱͎͇̞̫̮͓͓̬͇͂̆̀̍̑̏̒͗̾̈́̾̔͝p̷̘͉̙̥͒̊̂́͂̀͒̍͜͝ͅi̶̮͖̜̳͛̉͊́̈̒̃̑̓̾̄̚͠͝d̷̢̛̺̜̟̗͉̤̠̼̩̲̮̏̐̊̌͆͜ ̴̡̛̙͍̉͑͋̈́̐̿͆͐͋͒̀̕̕̚f̴͚̞̦͈̭̤̦̔́̃̐̎̈͂͜͝ͅṳ̷͎̝́̆̎̽̿̓̂͆̈͛̂̕͘c̵̨̢̣̝̟͖͙̙̯̫̗͊̐̊̂́͛̓̓͋̈̕͝͠͝k̷̹̗̟̜̙̺̺̱̘̻̳̹͊́͊̓͐͗̐̈́́į̴̨̛̖̗̹͙̻̣͍̳̓̋́̇̾̑̑̓́͘͠ͅń̵̛͎̥̞̞̞̪̭͓̹͎̿̀̅̈́̈́ģ̶̡͖͉̠͎̤̭̣͕̳̣̜̆̓̊̈́̋͆̄̐ ̸̨̯͇̫̣̮͓̦̰̮̪̔̃ͅf̶̧̡͉̮̯̰̠͇͎͓̞͕̰̀̾͒͜ͅų̸̠͚̤̻̱̤̣͉͖̰̉͂̏̔͑̆͜͝ͅc̷̩̘̗̬͇͋̆̚k̸̡̢̧͓͎̦͓͖̔̋̏͌͛̾̆͆͠ͅ ̶̧͑͐̔͂͆͠Į̷̢̦̱̹̦̭̭̻͈͙͈͖͍̦̒̓ ̸̧͇̠̱͇̮̙͍̲̥͍̳̀̀̎̔͌̆͂̓͝͝ͅw̶̖̭̱̠̭̠̘̣͖̽̿͐͌͌̍͆͝į̷̢̞͔̮̝̤̗̗̤̖̿̎͊̈́l̷̡̢̢̬͇̖̜̲̪̦͕̜̬̘͊͐͆́̕͘͝ľ̷̘̮̺̟̝̙̘͑̅ͅ ̴̧̲͖̺͈̗̘̹̻̬͔̲̜͓͙̍͆̓͐͌͛́̈́̕͘ḑ̴̡̧̹̤̠͎̗̀̓́̿̔̇̌́͠ó̷̧͓̥̖͙̝̙̯̮̪́̽̈́͑̏̈́͘ẉ̶̢̢̙̱̟̭͚̺̫͚̻̟̤̹͂́̕n̴̢̛̲̳̩̞̖̯̬̗͐͂͑̿̚͜ͅv̵̡̢̛̤̱̞̊̄͒̿͑̀͋͑̃͌͛͘͝o̸̢̘͙͍͇͍̻̹͔̐̒́͆̅͘͜͝ͅt̶̡̤̥̯̰̲͚̱͗̋̎̓̄̕͝e̷͖̤̞͚̰̩̭̫̅́ ̴̛̖̱̼̣̪͕͛́̄̀̿̎̎̍͂͋͝ý̷͓̟̪̿̊̅̓̒̃͒̏̓͗͝ǒ̷̫̟̌͒͋̅̊̈́͘͝ữ̴̦̻͉̭̖͉̬̜̙̘͚͒͋̽̿́̽̊́͒͝ ̸̣͇͇͎̭̤̦͈̺̱͖̿̆̑̈́̔̈́̂͛ş̵̛̤̩̈̿͒̓̇̈́̊͌̌̈́̍̀͝o̷̡̧͎̫͓̭̜͕̘͊ͅ ̸̨̡̖̬͍̤̙̼̘͉͎͙͉͆̏͒̃̀͌͆̋̽̉͐̇͌̈́͝ͅm̸̻̳̦̰̩̯͉̺̻͎͖͑̄͂̒̎̋̓̊͜ư̸̫̞̋̂́̈́̋͗̐̅̾́̾̚̕̕c̸͓̖͇̀͑̄̋̿ẖ̸̩̳̀ ̶̩͌͋̌̂a̸̢̬̠̺̤͖̙̤̙̤͑̐̍͑̐͐̓̆̉̑͘̚͠ư̸̢̢̬̻̙̖̬͔͚̗̏̀̓̂͜g̴̳̖̮̙̝̙͋͌̎̎̽̉͐͘̕͘h̶̨̢͇̖̪̠̬̱͙̹̼̻̰̊̌̃̎̓̀͒͆̕͠g̸̡̪̥͖̻̯͕̦͚̘̥̟̯͍͙̊̕͠h̸̨̲̥̮̖̹̠̤͐͛̊͆̉ǵ̴̡̮͇͍̯̲̣̦̰̙̗̟̀̇͂͊͒ͅh̷͇̠̳̺̻͈͖͔̩̥̩̊͒̓͛͐̋̉̾̒̿͊͌̄͝g̴̪̥͙̦̹̉̀͌̏̍h̸̯̩̫̳̼͔̮̦̭̃ͅg̶̭̲͈̽̽̄̏ͅḧ̷̢̞͙̪̞̖͇̰̝̥́͑̂̈̈̈͘̕g̷̝̋̆̐̎͋̋̚ḧ̸͈̜̔̎́͋̿̆͌͂̈́̈́̈́͠!̴̳̥̃͐͌!̸̧͍̠̟̤̳̪̜̼͕͆!̷̳́̑̎͋̌̍͝!̵̻̫͓͚͎͇̄̊̽͛͐́͆̇̋͊̈͋̂͑̕
