• Theblarglereflargle [any]
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    1 year ago

    “Ally with the Slavs”

    You know I’ll take “complete fucking brain dead” over “acts as if the iron guard was cool and misunderstood”

  • amyra [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    pro tip for winning wars: do things that make you win instead of things that make you lose

  • 7bicycles [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    To be fair "If I was in charge, I'd simply make sure things were done more gooder" is a pretty prevailing thought

          • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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            1 year ago

            The Soviet Union was already at war with Japan. People try to make the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact out to be a huge deal, whether as Hitler or Stalin being best buds or Stalin pulling some 10d chess move to get the Nazis to invade Western Europe instead, but the whole point of the pact was so the Soviet Union wouldn't have to fight two fronts. That's literally it. Notice how once relations between the Soviet Union and Fascist Japan began to normalize, the Soviet Union quickly signed another non-aggression pact, this time with Japan. Operation Barbarossa would commence two months later, making the timing of the non-aggression pact most fortunate. The Molotov-Ribbentrop pact was null and void, but the Soviet-Japanese Neutrality pact was in play, so the Soviet Union once again only had to fight on a single front instead of contending with two. And when the triumphant Red Army marched over the ruins of Berlin, the Soviets basically said, "Pact? What pact?" before breaking the pact by liberating Manchuria from Japanese fascists. Once the Nazis were defeated, the Eastern front no longer existed, which meant the Soviet-Japanese Neutrality pact outlived its usefulness of ensuring the Soviet Union only had to fight one front.

    • UlyssesT [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Most nazis see themselves as "ideas guys." :so-true:

  • PZK [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Don't siege Leningrad, take it immediately

    Zurge rush Stalingrad

    Bro just walk in and take it. :galaxy-brain:

    There is a reason they used the strategy they did. If they could just walk thousands of miles unopposed they would have done those things.

    The fantasy that Germany could have won by just never losing any major battle is amusing. The war revealed fascism's weakness by collapsing the moment they had major setbacks. They didn't build any great "reich", they just plundered Europe. When they couldn't do that anymore they imploded. The Soviet Union however had massive setbacks and rallied to destroy the Nazis. Its living proof of a superior system that could adapt and endure hardship. Fascism is the definition of unsustainable because it requires constant success to sustain itself and goes belly up the moment things get tough.

    I would be interested in asking this poster why the Russians were able to rally back and win while the Germans could not do the same. They got blown away like a fart in the wind when they had to be on the defensive.

    • ironicindoctrination [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      You play hearts of iron to simulate what if country went communist scenarios, you don’t play hearts of iron to play the le bad guys or else you are 100% a nazi.

    • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      The war revealed fascism’s weakness by collapsing the moment they had major setbacks.

      a fascist regime is fundamentally incapable of accurately assessing their enemy's strength
      the ideology relies on the enemy being absurdly weak but also insurmountably strong at the same time

  • PosadistInevitablity [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    How were they supposed to “Zerg rush” more effectively than blitzkrieg??

    That was already too fast to be sustainable. It’s called lightning war for fucks sake

  • EnsignRedshirt [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    This is basically a Korean advice meme. "If I were Hitler, I simply would have defeated Russia."

  • soiejo [he/him,any]
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    1 year ago

    Here's how Hitler could've won:

    (Stuff that is completely opposite to the Nazis existence/methods and also borderline divine intervention)

    It's simple really

    • LaGG_3 [he/him, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      (Stuff that is completely opposite to the Nazis existence/methods and also borderline divine intervention)

      Hitler should have savescummed his game like I did with XCOM :very-intelligent:

  • FourteenEyes [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    The thing that gets me the most is his misspelling of "Zerg"

    Also his total ignorance of Slavic collaborators

    EDIT: also just realized "zerg rush" was basically the blitzkrieg so again lol

  • Antoine_St_Hexubeary [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    Ally with the Slavs

    Almost every slav who wanted to collaborate with the nazis eventually got an opportunity to do so, so this feels a bit like a pointless formality.

  • Awoo [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    Ignore Africa lmao. Yeah sure right. Ignore the source of the allies resources.

    • Vncredleader
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      1 year ago

      Honestly just give the allies free access to the Mediterranean, what's the worst that could happen

      • Awoo [she/her]
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        1 year ago

        It's absolutely ridiculous and just goes to show this person knows nothing about resources and logistics.

        They think this is won with a difference in a few battles.

        The idea that bombing raf facilities instead of terror bombing would change much is also ridiculous. All it would do is simply weaken the raf. That by itself does nothing to stop the allies from mounting their counter attack from the UK. It ends up achieving very little. Simply bombing the UK is not enough and there is zero chance of any german attack on the UK succeeding, Churchill turned the island into a fucking fortress that would have obliterated any invading force. He absolutely did not fuck around with defence plans and was determined not to surrender.

        So what do either of these things achieve? Nothing at best. Or a huge increase in allied resources because they're not committing to a fight in africa or worried about supplies either. It potentially greatly strengthens the allies while achieving little to nothing.

        The only thing here that has merit is changing how the USSR is assaulted but it's a bad suggestion because these things occurred as they did out of necessity. They could not go faster.

        In reality they should have assault the USSR 2 years earlier.

        • Vncredleader
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          1 year ago

          I once had someone, while showing us their HOI4 game as fascist austria-hungary, say that Germany would've won if only they had captured Odessa and Sevastopol ..like my brother in christ they FUCKING DID. They massacred Odessa and Sevastopol, they did pogroms like crazy, atrocities abound. In fact the nazis being delayed a short while by the brave defenders of Sevastopol helped delay Stalingrad and leave the 6th army without help, eventually causing the victory there. The Nazis poured fucking troops in there and got their objective, but the Soviets made them and the Romanians fight for every inch, by the end the city was fucking leveled, the port wrecked, and every single soviet battery and bunker had to be destroyed one by one. Similar case with Odessa but with a more successful Soviet evacuation.

          The nazis did this idiot's plan and even succeeded, but guess what made that not actually enough to win? Almost like failure has a lot to do with your enemy winning and not just yourself losing. They strip war down to the coldest numbers, but even then disregard the statistical realities hampering the nazis. Their "logic" is vibes based, not even a "logic-bro" BS argument, but a mascaraed of one by a fool.

          Sevastopol and Odessa are Hero Cities for a reason. Fort Stalin was not even a fort, but a position the Nazis called one because the Red Army there was humiliating them. Just that position alone is filled with stories of heroic actions and rescues that could fill a hundred war movies, but for the westerner, nope it never happened. The officer there Pyanzin, when he realized the guns had finally been taken out dragged himself to a radio

          When the enemy broke into the battery, its commander reported to the command post of the division: “The enemy tanks are shooting at us point-blank, the infantry is throwing grenades at us. Farewell, comrades! For the Motherland, forward to victory! From the command post of the division they saw that a fierce hand-to-hand fight was going on in the battery. The last radiogram from the battery consisted of only a few words: “There is nothing to fight back. The entire staff was out of action. Open fire on our position, on our command post." At 15 o'clock. 18 min. the battery radio has stopped working. Artillerymen opened fire on the former position of the 365th battery, which was captured by the enemy

          Again, THAT shit is what beat the nazis, not them forgetting to take Sevastopol

          • BeamBrain [he/him]
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            1 year ago

            :maybe-later-honey: Uhhhhh actually the Russians only won by throwing endless human waves at the Nazis and their soldiers only fought because they were afraid of getting executed by evil Stalin. It's like you don't know anything about World War 2.

          • Awoo [she/her]
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            1 year ago

            Exactly. At the end of the day the nazis were going as fast as they could. The speed they could go was determined not by themselves but by the practicality of the enemy forcing them to fight for every inch.

            How are you going to go any faster? Ultimately the only way to do so is to have not launched the offensive when it was. If you're launching the offensive at the time the nazis did and under those conditions and resources you are simply not winning it. It was too late.

  • WoofWoof91 [comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    focus on RAF facilities

    they tried to do that, they sucked at it
    kinda hard to focus on "facilities" when any flat bit of land can and was turned into a pop-up airfield

    • axont [she/her, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      They were also attempting to bomb those facilities at night so the RAF wouldn't be able to immediately shoot Nazi planes out of the sky with AA. The problem was that the UK by mid 1940 had fully functioning RDF (range and detection finding radar) and were catching sight of incoming Nazi bombers even at night. German radar systems at this point I think were only installed on things like battleships, and furthermore Germany didn't even know the UK had radar technology. This was only like 5 years into radar existing in the first place. So they had a poor understanding of why their bombers were getting shot so much at night.

      So yeah, the Germans were bombing completely blind most of the time.

      • red_stapler [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        The Germans had ground radar in 1938 (Freya) but they didn’t really integrate it into their command and control until they were on the defensive.

  • ssjmarx [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Look it's easy you just gotta reorganize into 20-stacks and put a heavy tank in there to increase everyone's defense stat

    -Hitler, probably.