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  • joaomarrom [he/him, comrade/them]
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    1 year ago

    Jesus Christ g*mers are the most easily offended people in existence, what a bunch of whiny losers, goddamn

    Also, I want to add the fact that I'm huffing a major dose of copium to deal with the fact that ever since I played the first AC game, I always thought - like everybody else - that an AC game set in Japan would be just perfect... but now that it's finally coming out, I have no more interest in AC games lmao

    • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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      1 year ago

      Also, I want to add the fact that I'm huffing a major dose of copium to deal with the fact that ever since I played the first AC game, I always thought - like everybody else - that an AC game set in Japan would be just perfect... but now that it's finally coming out, I have no more interest in AC games lmao

      Oof, same. I stopped playing after....assassin's creed 2 I think? The one in Italy. After that they made so many AC games and I have not kept up, and now I don't want to get back into it after the story's progressed so much.

      And making the MC Yasuke? Missing out kinda stings.

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        • OrcaAntiyachtVanguard [they/them]
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          1 year ago

          I wish Ubisoft hadn't gone into using Assassin's Creed as a "sell more shit" button. A Black Flag game just about pirates and doing Cool Pirate Shit would've sold really well but nah, had to add AC to it to sell more copies

      • Gosplan14_the_Third [none/use name]
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        1 year ago

        2's the best one still. Brotherhood was a direct sequel set in Rome and arguably of equal quality. Then you had Revelations, which didn't hit as hard as the previous ones, but had a good setting (16th Century Istanbul) and I thought was a decent conclusion to the Ezio Auditore arc.

        3 was really dull, I felt, and never finished it back in the day, but it did end Desmond's story arc.

        They could have stopped there, but they didn't. 4 is the famous pirate one, which is a good pirate sandbox but a bad AC game and the consistent descent into endless spinoffs and cashgrabs. They could make one set in Moscow in 1917 and I still wouldn't be interested (funnily enough, I think they actually did - one of the 2D ones?) for the Ubisoft sandbox model sucks, the writing is trash and the abomination of what they did to Karl Marx in Syndicate (he's a reformist lib in it) is about what one could expect in these supposedly historical settings.

        • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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          1 year ago

          Don't forget about Unity between Ezio and 3. There was still a little bit of juice left in the fruit at that point but on release it was a dumpster fire so it doesn't get the love it would have otherwise.

            • AntiOutsideAktion [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              I played it some and thought it was good. More difficult than the other games and leaned away from the simplification of the controls 4 had. I could have just sucked at the combat but it was balanced so that you actually had to be sneaky because guards could kill you.

      • SeventyTwoTrillion [he/him]
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        The Ezio trilogy was nice but you can really tell that after AC3 (which I disliked on release but actually quite enjoyed when I replayed it years later) there was a sort of "Well, shit. Now what do we do?" moment at Ubisoft where they were stuck between a rock and a hard place of "Keep doing basically the exact same thing over and over again like we have been for a while but with different settings and tacked-on mechanics and incremental improvements in the graphics and parkour" or "Try something totally different and hope the fans don't hate us", because of course the idea of just letting the franchise die and starting something fresh is impossible in an era of endless sequels, reboots, remasters, etc.

        AC4 almost feels accidentally successful because while they failed to create an Assassin's Creed game, they definitely made a pretty great pirate game, and so it gets to coast (heh) by on that. They basically copy-pasted AC4 (but this time you're a TEMPLAR!) in Rogue. And then they cleared wanted to go back to the traditional formula and made Unity and then Syndicate, which made some genuinely really cool additions like the parkour system in Unity and it's finally a game about, like, Assassins again, but the faults were glaring enough that they then flip-flopped back and then miraculously managed to create two (maybe three, idk how good Valhalla is) well-received games and enjoyable games in a row that were even further away from Assassin's Creed than AC4 was, and then flip-flopped again with the new game which is set in the Middle East I think and kinda back to the AC1 days, aka a soft reboot of the series. So in a couple game's time they'll once again go back to the open world formula I predict.

        The biggest issue I have with these games isn't really that the exemplify the typical Ubisoft formula that they do with fucking everything, though there's a discussion to be had about that too, it's basically just that you could have released AC4+Rogue and Origins+Odyssey+Valhalla off as entirely different franchises and remove any mention of the Assassins and just have them be entirely their own thing, and keep the Assassin's Creed franchise about goddamn assassins. It's part of the much larger problem in entertainment right now where literally like 90% of what is released right now is part of existing franchises because of the fear of taking a risk, so you have movies that were originally about something else entirely and then the directors go "Man, this would be great as Movie #32942 in the Blorbo Franchise! Change the script up a bit and tie it in!" or whatever the hell is going on in those companies

        AC4 could have been "Local pirate man goes on a drunken adventure for a magical/nonmagical treasure and learns to become a less shitty person with morals after seeing all his friends die" without any mention of a templar and it would be like, 5% different. Origins could have been "Medjay man goes on revenge quest with his wife because his child was killed by a group of powerhungry assholes, helps local community along the way" and there would be no need to show an apple of eden. Same thing goes for the other similar games. you can't do the same for Altair or Ezio or Connor (well, maybe you could do the same for Connor actually but I don't think Ubisoft is based enough to make a game where you're a native American going sicko mode against settler-colonists, especially given that they did anti-French-revolution propaganda in Unity) or Arno and Jacob/Evie because those games are, top-to-bottom, about being a shady stabby dude with knives trying to build/rebuild/fix their order against a group of bad guys while funky magical objects help and hinder them

      • GarbageShoot [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Who cares about the clusterfuck larger story? Just go on context clues for the modern section, the historical sections are relatively self-contained in each period.

      • Frank [he/him, he/him]
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        1 year ago

        I played bits of the one with Kassandra but they're so far from what interested me about the first couple of games now, and there are better open world rpgish games. Plus how did they go from roughly historical stuff to the viking one not having any one handed swords or spears?!

      • BurgerPunk [he/him, comrade/them]
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        1 year ago

        The other Ezio games are totally worth playing. I dropped off after 2 for the same reason as you, but i went back and played those a year ago and loved them. The overarching story is complete bullshit and barely holds together game to game, so its not a big deal especially after ac3, so its not a big deal to not know about thise things to enjoy the games

  • CyborgMarx [any, any]
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    1 year ago

    If you're gonna set a Creed game in Japan obviously you're gonna set it during the Sengoku period and who is one of the main characters of the era? Oda Nobunaga, and who is standing right behind him during the most intense period of his life; the fuckin black samurai Yasuke!

    It just fuckin racism pure and simple

    • Yurt_Owl
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      1 year ago

      Also skyrim vikings play into their weird white supremacist shite cos they glorify the false image of vikings in media.

    • joaomarrom [he/him, comrade/them]
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      1 year ago

      these people need some real history lessons, so that they can learn that Yakub created white people way after Black people existed

  • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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    1 year ago

    Imagine being upset at historical accuracy in Assassin's Creed, the game series where you get to kill a Pope for an alien enlightenment artifact.

    Honestly some of my favorite green texts come from the assassin's Creed series and how insane it would be to watch as a common person, a dude climb up a bell tower, jump into a bail of hay, and then sprint off like a madman.

    • barrbaric [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Imagine being upset at historical accuracy in Assassin's Creed, the game series where you get to kill a Pope for an alien enlightenment artifact.

      No that part was real, it's all the assassin/templar stuff that's made up.

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  • plantifa [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    G*mers getting mad at Yasuke like how mayos got mad at Green Knight for being "historically inaccurate" with Dev Patel as Gawain and PoC in general in the film when in the expansive canon of Arthurian stories there were characters outside of Europe as far as India, Baghdad and Babylonia

    Yet another case of g*mers and "Historical Accuracy" whiners continuing to project their racism on media "inaccurate to the source material" but not actually knowing the source material.

    I'm furthest from a "this has to be completely 'period and canon accurate' piece"-kinda media person, get wild and fun with it, twist things in new ways and create new perspectives in pre-established western media, especially if it makes these sort of culture war chuds mad, but even within their own flawed parameters of 'acceptable' media creation they did not do the homework.

    E: Oh wait, I forgot about my favorite of these examples which would cause CHUDs to shit themselves: Gurman the Gay from Gottfried von Strassburg's Tristan or Gormund in Geoffrey of Monmouth's Historia Regum Britanniae who, depending on the sources was the son of an African king (Tristan) or a king himself (Historia Regum Britanniae) who conquered and held lands in Ireland

    E2: And there was a pretty unambiguous gay character and relationship from the Vulgate-Lancelot cycle through Galahaut/Galeholt, a half-giant ruler who fought against Arthur, faced off against a anonymously clad Lancelot, and was so amazed at his prowess he gives up in the middle of the battle that he was winning just to be with Lancelot who accepts his close companionship. And at the end of his life, Lancelot is buried at his castle in a grave next to Galahaut, who died earlier after hearing (falsely) that Lancelot was killed. The grave was specifically built to eternalize the two's companionship.

    • AssortedBiscuits [they/them]
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      1 year ago

      You say you value historical accuracy, yet all of the medieval English characters speak with a post-GVS dialect of English. Curious, very curious.

      • plantifa [they/them]
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        1 year ago

        Unless the Arthurian media piece in question has like a run-on list that introduces 50 different dudes who each appear in one vignette then promptly get killed unceremoniously in the same or a future escapade (or in the case of Sir Colgrevance in Le Morte D'Arthur killed twice in 2 separate vignettes) then I really don't consider it a faithful Arthurian adaptation close to the source material and can be discarded thusly soviet-huff

  • M68040 [they/them]
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    1 year ago

    Do these people just think nobody ever left their homeland for any reason besides war before Ellis Island opened on January 1, 1892

  • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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    1 year ago

    How many of these dickheads got mad at Valhalla for just doing Skyrim vikings rather than "accurate history" or whatever?

  • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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    1 year ago

    This is cool, Yasuke is neat and most depictions of the black samurai in Japanese media are just one off goofs like the afro samurai in way of the samurai for the ps2, to see a serious take on him is good. ofc G*mers flip their lid because they're racist mouth breathing cretins.

  • motherofmonsters [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    destroying workers lives to make shittier and shittier games, squeezing the stone until every ounce of blood is its own separate transaction, I sleep

    digital avatar has too much melanin, real shit

  • buh [she/her]
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    1 year ago

    We need an assassin’s creed in 1950s cuba

    • Yllych [any]
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      1 year ago

      reverse assassin's creed where you instead thwart all the CIA (Templar) attempts at killing Castro

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        • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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          Witcher and Game of Thrones aren't even set in a real historical setting. It would be exactly as accurate if they made every character black

          a black Richard the third is far more accurate than giving the Plantagenets a dragon

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            • Mardoniush [she/her]
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              1 year ago

              I ws particularly annoyed by Kingdom Come because even in a backwater area like that you are at the least going to have a bunch of Turkish traders rolling around.

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            • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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              1 year ago

              Game of thrones also did have a pretty decent drama in the early seasons with some well written intrigue

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                • usernamesaredifficul [he/him]
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                  Well it was based of the wars of the roses everyone being a murderous psychopath is not pulled from nowhere.

                  I do have to agree though game of thrones did what a lot of American tv does and just coasted of a good early series. The boys is worse it only had a good pilot and has been coasting since with episodes that only imply something is going to happen later without anything ever happening. This is why tv should be mapped out in how many seasons it will be to begin with

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  • barrbaric [he/him]
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    1 year ago

    Time to see which semi-historical Sengoku era action game is better: this or Nioh (spoilers: it's Nioh).

    • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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      1 year ago

      Actually the answer is uhhhh Sengoku Basara where Date Masamune is a six-sword-wielding engrish speaking westaboo and his whole gang uses horse reins that look like motorcycle handlebars and Nobunaga has a demonic Stand and a semi-auto shotgun

      • barrbaric [he/him]
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        1 year ago

        Hmm but in Nioh Date Masamune has two stands, one of which is a high old man. Nobunaga also has two, despite being a ghost.

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    • TheWorldSpins [any, undecided]
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      1 year ago

      I guess they're scrapping the 'blending in' mechanics?

      Honestly hasn't been a thing in a long while. I always thought it was a stupid mechanic anyway, people in crowds notice things.