I follow this person on Twitter, and I'm sure she means this literally, and I'm OK with it.

  • dinklesplein [any, he/him]
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    5 months ago

    'the ick' seems to just mean 'neurodivergent person did something neurodivergent' when i see it used colloquially tbh

    • Dolores [love/loves]
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      5 months ago

      oh no i'm not falling for that one again, if you want me to change into a cute maid outfit before sitting on the couch you're going to have to ask nicely soviet-huff

    • the_itsb [she/her, comrade/them]
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      5 months ago

      putting sheets and towels on the furniture when my filthy fucking friends visit and refuse to don a clean suit

      • CoolerOpposide [none/use name]
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        5 months ago

        When was the last time you washed your couch cushions?

        Also

        pronounjak-rage NOOOOOOO YOURE NOT MY FRIEND IF YOU DONT LET ME PUT MY SWEATY HOT BODY AND CLOTHES ALL OVER YOUR EXTREMELY DIFFUCILT TO WASH UPHOLSTERY

    • Justice@lemmygrad.ml
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      5 months ago

      I'm actually glad my parents never really cared about this stuff although I do personally only rarely wear shoes indoors. Like if I'm doing work and in/out. And outdoor clothes I can only assume means like you were doing hard, sweat-causing labor or otherwise dirty labor. Not like driving to the store and coming home to change into pajamas before you sit on the couch (lol). Like yeah if I go for a jog of course I'm going to get a shower before I sit on my furniture or bed. But otherwise...

      But as a child of Yakub I am accustomed to living in my own filth

      • CoolerOpposide [none/use name]
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        5 months ago

        The metric I use for the couch/cushions is like this:

        If I took off the clothes on my body right now, would I put them into the hamper or are they still clean enough to wear again? If they’d go in the hamper, I’m not sitting on the couch with them.

        The metric I use for the bed is much more strict:

        Unless they are clothes I just took out of the drawers/closet, they don’t go in/on the bed.

      • CoolerOpposide [none/use name]
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        5 months ago

        Weird to just be assuming that people are white lmao

        but anyway if im alone on that one, maybe I shouldn’t be. So be honest, when was the last time you washed your couch cushions and pillow cases? Grimy mf 💀

        • Hello_Kitty_enjoyer [none/use name]
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          5 months ago

          when was the last time you washed your couch cushions and pillow cases? Grimy mf 💀

          we use sheets on top of them for that reason, which we wash every month or so

        • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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          5 months ago

          You’re NOT alone and that’s not a white people thing, friend. Absolutely NO outside pants in my bed. Shirts are okay as long as they’re not grody, but pants are right out.

              • Chronicon [they/them]
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                5 months ago

                imagine having a bedroom couch, mind blown (okay not exactly, but I'm pretty sure even my wealthiest friends/family don't have a whole couch in their bedrooms, maybe a chair or bench...)

                my dumb ass would probably sleep on it every night. I don't know what it is, I don't sleep well on couches, but it is 10x easier to fall asleep on them

                • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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                  5 months ago

                  My partner and I aren’t super rich or anything, but having a bedroom couch is dope

                  They ARE very easy to fall asleep on… but once we got a like 3” memory foam mattress topper, BED is horrifyingly sleepable. If you don’t have one, springing for one of those is the best decision I’ve ever made for sleep. …except in the mornings, when getting out of the most comfy thing ever is a NIGHTMARE

    • triplenadir@lemmygrad.ml
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      5 months ago

      thinking back to the person who I know who (consensually) sprays guests' backs with alcohol before they're allowed to sit on any soft furnishings in their home

      • CoolerOpposide [none/use name]
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        5 months ago

        Ok that’s a bit much, I just mean if you’re like out sweating or just did a whole shift etc I’d prefer you use a chair

  • Dessa [she/her]
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    5 months ago

    I don't know anybodynwhobwears shoes in the house. I guess Mr. Rogers did, but he had specific shoes he only used in the house.

    • StalinStan [none/use name]
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      5 months ago

      He wasn't showing the carpet gripper for free. You had to hit his premium for that one.

    • ButtBidet [he/him]
      hexagon
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      5 months ago

      That was really really good.

      As a middle aged man, I almost wish the girls were a little less sexually drawn, as I think I'd enjoy the anime for just the comedy.

      • Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem]
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        5 months ago

        To me the style always seemed less sexualized and more "the animators don't know how to a booby"

        • Chronicon [they/them]
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          5 months ago

          if you look up the manga/DVD covers there's definitely some sexualization going on. but I haven't seen the show so idk if that extends too much to the actual content.

            • Chronicon [they/them]
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              5 months ago

              yeah, I mean its not like a moral condemnation exactly, just that as an adult I'm not interested in sexualized high schoolers and am uncomfortable with the extent to which they are used to market to adult men. The cover being a character in just a swimsuit or with her skirt blowing up is at least a bit questionable. Honestly devoid of context maybe I wouldn't take as much issue, but I know how skeevy or worse outright pedophilic anime and manga sometimes are, so I have a hard time giving the benefit of the doubt when I see anything questionable. I definitely didn't get the vibe that ""the animators don't know how to [draw] a booby""

              • Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem]
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                5 months ago

                Really the only thing that I personally find offensive in Azumanga Daioh is this widely reviled recurring character called Mr. Kimura, who "became a teacher because he likes high school girls". He appears in episodes 1, 4, 6, 7, 10-17, 20, 21, 23, and 26, I think in most of these episodes exactly once — but obviously with a character description like that, even a very brief appearance would leave a bad taste in my mouth. Kimura also briefly appears in the intro — the intro is incidentally also where that "skirt getting blown up" picture is from, that's actually the character getting launched into the air and falling.

                Nevertheless, Azumanga Daioh is rated G~PG in most jurisdictions around the world. I've watched the show cap-a-pie with my boomer mom, a bit with my brother, and my mom even wanted to show Azumanga Daioh to an even older relative of ours, too. So Azumanga Daioh is, like the planet Earth, mostly harmless. I have sometimes thought about torrenting Azumanga Daioh just to give Mr. Kimura the ol' purge-2 treatment, because without him, the worst the show gets is just a few eyeroll moments or maybe specific triggers for some people. You can check IMDb's parents' guide or DoesTheDogDie for more information.

                By the way, the "manga cover" I think you're referring to is actually the cover of Dengeki Daioh magazine's August 2001 issue. Probably specifically the picture used at the top of the Wikipedia article for "Dengeki Daioh". So while it is plenty gross that that is in fact official artwork, it is not actually one of the manga covers. Those covers look like so (from eBay):

                Show Covers of Azumanga Daioh volumes one through four in Japanese. Each volume depicts the logo of Dengeki Comics in black in the upper right. Volume 1 depicts Sakaki, Chiyo, Tomo, Yomi, and Osaka in winter uniforms walking with their bags; a black speech bubble bearing the Azumanga Daioh logo in red and white points to Tomo's head; a golden speech bubble with a black numeral 1 points to Yomi's head; a black speech bubble reading "Kiyohiko Azuma" points to Osaka's head. The background is white with a gradient to a greenish yellow near the bottom. Volume 2 depicts Chiyo in a summer uniform waving against a white background. A black speech bubble is above her head, with the Azumanga Daioh logo in blue and white. A golden circle is on the left-hand side of the speech bubble and bears a black numeral 2. In the lower right corner is a black cartouche-like shape bearing the name "Kiyohiko Azuma" in white. Volume 3 depicts Sakaki in black trousers and an orange sweater with a high neck against a white background. A black speech bubble is to the right of her head bearing the Azumanga Daioh logo in orange and white. In the lower right of the speech bubble is a golden circle bearing the numeral 3. In the lower right corner of the cover is a black cartouche-like shape bearing the name "Kiyohiko Azuma" in white. Volume 4 depicts Tomo, Yomi, and Osaka in various summer clothes, each also carrying a bag; Osaka also holds in her hands sata andagi. A black speech bubble in the upper left points to Tomo's head, and it bears the Azumanga Daioh logo in yellow and white. A golden speech bubble bearing the numeral 4 points to Yomi's head. A black cartouche-like shape in the lower right corner bears the name "Kiyohiko Azuma".

                Edit: removed a gif in case it's an epilepsy trigger

      • Dessa [she/her]
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        5 months ago

        I'm confused. The one in red is the teacher, and the one in blue, the student, has only her head and forearms exposed and isn't particularly chesty or curvy.

        • ButtBidet [he/him]
          hexagon
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          5 months ago

          I've seen a few clips of this show in YouTube. It looks hilarious. But some of the scenes portray girls in very short skirts or with quite protruding chests. It's definitely not as bad as a lot of animes. It's just that I'm in my mid 40s, and I teach older girls, I just really can't find any of it pleasant.

          I want to stress that I'm not bothered by anyone who enjoys the show. It's just me.

          • Chronicon [they/them]
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            5 months ago

            I for some reason assumed this comment chain was about Nichijou. Then Yotsuba&. And now finally I see it's Azumanga daioh. I'm not very bright today.

            maybe try one of the two former if you haven't seen them, the humor is seemingly kinda similar (yotsuba& is related to azumanga daioh iirc, spin off or smth) and iirc they're less sexualized than that one.

            I get the argument that always putting younger girl characters in skirts is just like, reflecting reality, that's a common uniform, so that shows up even in very nonsexual shows sometimes, but a legit reason I don't watch a lot of anime anymore is because of the way so many go out of their way to draw the fucking underage characters bending over in tiny skirts and such. Its fucking foul. They could portray a realistic skirt length and not be a fucking pervert about it, even if it maybe seems a little short to a foreign audience, but they mostly just don't. Not that american TV is amazing about that sort of thing but its not as pervasive.

            • Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem]
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              5 months ago

              Yotsuba& is only a manga. Its relation to Azumanga Daioh is just that it shares an author, Kiyohiko Azuma. The two mangas might take place in the same universe but that's just fan theories. There's a few uncomfortable scenes in Yotsuba& with Fuuka, involving Jumbo, from what I've read so far (~1.5 volumes)

              Nichijou doesn't have anything uncomfortable that I can remember.

      • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        5 months ago

        Azumanga is NOT the show that comes to mind when I think of “sexualized characters” hahaha

      • wtypstanaccount04 [he/him]
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        5 months ago

        This scene isn't really a good example of that, Yukari-sensei is the teacher here. However some parts of the show are definitely weird that way, nowhere to the point of other shows fortunately.

  • mustGo [any]
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    5 months ago

    When they wear shoes indoors, do amerikkkans put on their socks and shoes before they step out of bed?

    • ButtBidet [he/him]
      hexagon
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      5 months ago

      In my childhood, my white family took our shoes off and put them in the closet. We walked around in socks all day.

      Having enough Asian and neat flat mates got me in the habit of going barefoot or having special in-house slippers (for cold days).

      • Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem]
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        5 months ago

        Not that I live in the S'Shah anyways, but whenever I've been there, I've always taken off my shoes just by the door, as does anyone else, and this goes for Norway as well. Putting them in a closet rather than under the coats and jackets and stuff sounds strange to me.

        What really gets me about Seppo houses is the doorknobs, though. And also the beds. And the asbestos.

        • ButtBidet [he/him]
          hexagon
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          5 months ago

          Ya, as an adult, I just kick them off next to the door, as does my partner. Friends who visit just do this without having to be asked, so it seems normal.

        • Krem [he/him, they/them]
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          5 months ago

          What really gets me about Seppo houses is the doorknobs, though.

          yeah what's the deal with the little globe door handles that give you no leverage and you have to awkwardly twist your wrist to open the door? and what's the deal with the useles little clicky lock thing in the middle? what smart brain designed this bullshit and what lobbyist paid off their whole nation to get them installed everywhere?

          • TechnoUnionTypeBeat [he/him, they/them]
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            5 months ago

            They're actually against code in a lot of places these days specifically because they're hard to grip and turn for anyone with reduced grip strength, and a pain to open with occupied hands

            If a house has them they can stay, but for renovations or new builds a lot of people are going with regular paddle style door handles

          • huf [he/him]
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            5 months ago

            their windows are also dogshit. i have no idea what went wrong. i blame anglo culture.

          • Saeculum [he/him, comrade/them]
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            5 months ago

            They look nice and they're not that inconvenient. Also, they're more difficult to catch clothes or elbows on.

        • Chronicon [they/them]
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          5 months ago

          Putting them in a closet rather than under the coats and jackets and stuff sounds strange to me.

          I'm not well traveled but in the US, at least the part I'm from, they usually are under the coats... in the coat closet, of which there is usually one by the front door in single family houses

      • Rai@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        5 months ago

        I was for sure “barefoot in home all day” camp growing up, but I’m in “socks” camp now that we have a bunch of cats hahaha

    • Hello_Kitty_enjoyer [none/use name]
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      5 months ago

      when I was little I always imagined white pipo wearing their shoes in bed because tv shows would depict it

      I still do tbh, it's hard to scrub the image

  • anarchoilluminati [comrade/them]
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    5 months ago

    Just confirm they are a Russian White (not to be confused with a White Russian, ick!) person.

    My girlfriend is White but thanks to Russian culture she is house trained.

  • lengau@midwest.social
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    5 months ago

    There's a woman in my city who's made wearing shoes indoors her whole identity (she even changed her Twitter username about it). Such a weird concept to me...

    • Hello_Kitty_enjoyer [none/use name]
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      5 months ago

      it's white resistance

      like when they pretend that washing chicken under tap water is going to kill them. it's the principle of the thing

      or maybe they immune systems really that bad idk

      • SuperZutsuki [they/them]
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        5 months ago

        What is this about washing chicken under tap water? They think it'll make them sick or something?

        • sevenapples@lemmygrad.ml
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          5 months ago

          You should not rinse chicken (or meat) in the sink, it's a) useless if you cook them properly (as in, not eat them raw), because that will kill the bacteria and b) potentially harmful because you'll splash around the bacteria on your sink/utensils etc where they will remain dangerous since they won't be cooked.

          idk what the original commenter meant, maybe he missed a negation and wanted to say that white people rinse their meats when they dont have to? because that makes more sense to me

          • SuperZutsuki [they/them]
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            5 months ago

            That makes sense. I have no idea why I didn't immediately register washing meat as weird other than im-vegan

        • Hello_Kitty_enjoyer [none/use name]
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          5 months ago
          1. fresh chicken doesn't need to be washed
          2. 99% of chicken bought at stores isn't fresh, and has a layer of slime on it
          3. many people (mostly non-white) choose to wash chicken because of this
          4. white people think they will get sick from the raw chicken sprayback (but not the sprayback of literally every other dirty thing they wash)
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    5 months ago

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    • Chronicon [they/them]
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      5 months ago

      I don't wear shoes in the house but I don't think there's much validity around cleanliness

      uhhhh

      you definitely track in dirt and dust and whatever's on the ground outside (snow, broken glass, dog shit, road salt,), if you wear the same shoes outside and in.

      It doesn't necessarily make the person dirtier but it definitely makes the house dirtier IMO. Not by like, a ton, if you clean regularly its probably fine esp if you don't have carpet, but I still am not a huge fan. The "tracking in bits of broken glass" thing actually happened to me recently. Bunch of car break-ins on my street and a few days later I start finding pieces on the ground in my apartment.

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        • Chronicon [they/them]
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          5 months ago

          The worst part is my city is pretty clean for the US lol. But yeah snow is just unavoidable if the climate is right for it, everything's getting a bit wet at least. (unless you are a bougie MFer with indoor parking and snow removal service and basically go from house to car to office without stepping foot outside, which some people do.)

          And besides a few times a year to clear grime and rotten leaves and dirt and keep the storm drains flowing, the streets don't really get actively cleaned here except by random passers by, so those accumulate some level of things like broken glass, bits of trash, etc. Dog poop is not a common problem for me, but for people who have dogs and aren't perfect at cleaning up their yards after them its much more common.

          I don't know what level of street cleaning other countries have, or whether they just have a more conscientious populace, but yeah parts of the US are filthy

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            5 months ago

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            • Chronicon [they/them]
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              5 months ago

              we get a bit of stuff like that in the central business district, but its more like low wage workers going out and picking up trash than a full sweeping of streets/sidewalks. outside downtown its what I mentioned before. to some extent its because of low density, but also just public services are a joke in the US.

    • Saeculum [he/him, comrade/them]
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      5 months ago

      I don't wear shoes in the house but I don't think there's much validity around cleanliness unless you've got a shower by the front door and are doing a full wash and change (and even then, I'm not convinced this would make a positive difference in most scenarios)

      Mud and stones very easily get stuck to shoes, and tracking in water is a dick move too.

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        5 months ago

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        • Saeculum [he/him, comrade/them]
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          5 months ago

          Most places around me have a mat and shoe rack at the entrance.

          It's always wet and muddy as well, so it might as well be the same as "always take off your shoes"

  • TrashGoblin [he/him, they/them]
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    5 months ago

    I am from Appalachia, and never did we ever wear our shoes inside. I often go around the house in socks, though.

  • PKMKII [none/use name]
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    5 months ago

    I stopped wearing shoes in the house after going over to a Japanese professor of mine’s house who made us go shoeless (Japanese as in ethnically Japanese, not that they taught Japanese). I was like, oh this makes sense, and I’ve been doing it ever since.

  • MaoTheLawn [any, any]
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    5 months ago

    not tryna be the saviour of the white race here but no one in britain wears shoes inside

    • Beetle_O_Rourke
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      5 months ago

      It would quickly be a catastrophe anywhere where it snows in winter.

      • Chronicon [they/them]
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        5 months ago

        yeah. I see people do it in the summer (and lightly judge them for it) but it just straight up doesn't work in winter

        I'm surprised more public facilities (schools, offices, etc) don't have facilities to change into more indoor appropriate footwear though. Nobody wants to clean salty slush off their floors every day at home by tracking that in but we do it every day in public and just let the janitors deal?

  • ElGosso [he/him]
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    5 months ago

    If I take my shoes off my feet will get dirty from all the dirt I tracked in by wearing my shoes shapiro-gavel Liberals destroyed with facts and logic once again.

  • mar_k [he/him]
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    5 months ago

    i remember watching American Dad a couple years ago, and there was this was this episode about how francine's adoptive parents were Chinese. and one of the running jokes of the episode was the mom going around telling everyone to take their shoes off indoors? and this was supposed to be seen as weird?