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  • SnowySkyes
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    3 months ago

    That's one way to ensure that the country as a whole doesn't progress past a 5th grade reading level.

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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      3 months ago

      Ummm actually sweaty, over 50% of Americans have a literacy level above 5th grade, which is 6th grade.

      And I’ll do everything in my power to keep it that way so the communists don’t brainwash us

      • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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        3 months ago

        But couldn’t you put Das Kapital and the Communist manifesto through it for similar results. Might actually do wonders since most zoomer complain about how boring and difficult those texts are.

        • anarchoilluminati [comrade/them]
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          3 months ago

          Iskra is already coming out with Kapital and Communist Manifesto as picture books.

          Hope that helps!

          I'm almost done reading Kapital, Volume 1 again and, damn, some parts are boring but they're worth it. No one's out here saying every book recommended is fun. People just have to struggle through the boredom.

          • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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            3 months ago

            Waiting on the inevitable manga version of Das Kapital where buxom Marx (though still with huge beard) teaches us about linen.

          • Frogmanfromlake [none/use name]
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            3 months ago

            This kind of thing would do great for our local indigenous communities that don’t read or speak Spanish. I’ll have to look more into it.

            • anarchoilluminati [comrade/them]
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              3 months ago

              Oh, that's a cool idea! You'll be able to find them here!

              They're not released yet so it's hard to know if they'll be good but I so far have had a great experience with Iskra so I have high hopes.

        • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]
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          3 months ago

          The books are not that tough. Folks need to do their due diligence and read, not just read what other people think the text says. Let alone a stochastic parrot.

          • robot_dog_with_gun [they/them]
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            3 months ago

            it's dry and boring as fuck dude. I couldn't even keep focus on Harvey's bookclub videos. give me the adhd accommodation version and self-crit your ableism.

            • marxisthayaca [he/him,they/them]
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              3 months ago

              Considering that I organized a bookclub for Capital Vol. 1 in /r/CTH and created scaffolded and application activities, with a schedule, so individuals would feel motivated and it would help manage with executive disfunction and keep just about everyone engaged and on track, tell me more about my ableism.

              And last night, I was, hilariously enough, talking to a friend with ADHD symptoms to compare with my academic and professional struggles. I’m not trying to be ableist, at all.

              It was merely opinion on reading the primary text, and no where did I say somebody unable to do that is an idiot, or beneath me, or anything else? Are we not allowed to rate books on personal difficulty?

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              You call it dull, but he is constantly biting and critiquing existing academic. The book is full of literature references. The footnotes give so much context to British events, and people. Chapter 10 has some of the saddest passages about women and children dying on their working line, or being roused at 3am to get to work. It is a work of passion, but it strikes a fine balance between polemic and a theoretical work of research.

              There were two other podcasts, Marx Madness and Real Ass History Hours that was an off the cuff recap for each chapter, rather than sentence by sentence discussion. I’ll find my google docs with notes. I can recommend using the perusal tool in our lit club, if it helps.

            • ingirumimus [none/use name]
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              3 months ago

              that's a strong accusation for a pretty benign suggestion, particularly when they're talking about someone who's work is constantly being twisted and maligned.

              also, like, yeah its gonna be boring sometimes, its work of political and economic theory, not light entertainment. Struggling with the text is something everyone who reads it has to do, and its an important part of the process for actually achieving any kind of understanding of what's he's saying. Skipping that removes most of benefit of actually reading Marx or any other theory lol

  • SpanishSpaceAgency [he/him]
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    3 months ago

    Jesus fucking Christ. A literal contemporary, along with Pound, Stein and Eliot, is known for his simple language. Just fucking read Hemingway. Just get an ounce of education. Just fucking shut up and dont talkt to or at me about AI anymore. I'm losing it. Fucking read or kill me. or yourself, or whatever. just stop. agony-deep

    • TheChemist [he/him]
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      3 months ago

      Indeed. Imagine putting effort into your writing... Only for someone to want to skim it.

      • Des [she/her, they/them]
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        3 months ago

        damn he did say he was going somewhere remote and isolated

        godspeed Hell Guardian Ulysses fidel-salute

      • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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        3 months ago

        He dove down there to do eternal battle with the demon's true form. In the end, it will be said that the planet broke before the poster did.

  • Findom_DeLuise [she/her, they/them]
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    3 months ago

    So, my hot librarian wife (deal with it, volcel gestapo) just informed me that there is, in fact, a legit use for this. There are publishers who effectively "translate" difficult works into simpler English with different targeted reading levels so that works can be enjoyed by people with learning disabilities, accessibility and literacy issues, and ESL readers at different levels of English proficiency. Yeah, the AI component is scummy, and feeding stuff through an LLM without any kind of filter or editorial oversight is probably going to end badly (which, knowing hellworld, is what they're doing), but yeah. There are people out there that tools like this could help, and it's not strictly in the domain of "hurr hurr burger-brained AmeriKKKan$ are illiterate."

    Once again, though, I have no hope (partiotism) that the capitalists would prioritize accessibility over profits, so it's probably absolute dogshit.

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      3 months ago

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      • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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        3 months ago

        I used Shakespeare written “simpler” and “modern” as a supplement while following along the original play version in class which definitely helped me understand what was happening. But this was several years before generative LLM was unveiled and made commercial. This meant that someone or entire teams of people who read the originals made this “edition.” I do not have faith that I would’ve had a correct or even accurate understanding of the events and plot if some bullshit LLM spewed out the “translation.”

        What’s worse is translations of philosophy and political texts. I’ve used LLM to explain some difficult concepts from Marx’s works, but I never know which is correct, if at all, because it will literally modify every little interpretation if you say you disagree. Some human translations are already revisionist or disinformation. An LLM made by biased tech bros who hate children (except for ancap behavior) and anything that’s not STEM - I can only assume that they’ll bastardize so much just so the kids can hurry up and learn to code

      • Mardoniush [she/her]
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        3 months ago

        Yeah, you could potentially use a llm to base a smaller specialised model for a particular subgenre, but even then it's a first draft at best.

    • Erika3sis [she/her, xe/xem]
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      3 months ago

      I was just about to write a comment about exactly this, focusing specifically on language learning.

      It's a recurring problem for people learning any language, that the vast majority of content at their own reading level is either for children, or it's their own classroom textbooks of basic conversation and whatnot — and that shit just isn't very engaging for most people. And indeed when you have a lot of engaging content that's at roughly your level of comprehension, you learn a language more quickly. This is actually a reason why a lot of people use anime and manga to learn English as well!

      That said, I haven't really heard about simplified editions of books in languages aside from English. I guess because English is the "world language", it just ends up being prioritized for this sort of thing, which is kind of a shame.

      But yeah, regardless, this being written by a machine driven by a profit motive spells disaster. I should wish more people just volunteered to write these sorts of translations, especially in languages other than English.

    • RyanGosling [none/use name]
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      3 months ago

      As an ESL student and immigrant, if my school did this I likely would’ve flunked my English classes if they didn’t modify the tests to be the same style. Having my teacher explain (or a student attempt to explain) what’s happening, then breaking down the complex sentence structure and vocabulary was what we did. We might’ve done some rewriting exercises, but that’s completely different than learning the rewritten sentences from the getgo. But I was also a child which means learning languages is usually easier. I can’t say if the same method is useful for adult learners.

    • NephewAlphaBravo [he/him]
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      3 months ago

      AI turns any art run through it into a flavorless paste. This is something that deserves to be done by actual thinking, soul-having human beings who can care about the art and the audience it's being adapted for

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      3 months ago

      I get it, it's like the Simple English version of Wikipedia. I used to use it sometimes for very technical articles where the main wiki article required too much subject knowledge to understand.

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    • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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      3 months ago

      It is a portable Oracle, and as long as you truly believe in its gospels

      I just had a very scary "Twilight Zone"-like thought. The fundies use ChatGPT to "fix" the Bible and they love it. JesusGPT loves the rich, loves guns, loves war, hates the poor, hates regulation, hates taxes...

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        • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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          3 months ago

          The digivangelist yells from the pulpit: "And who would dare to question the gospels from the dicarnation of our Lord Jesus Christ!" and he gets 10,000 likes in 10 seconds.

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            • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
              hexagon
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              3 months ago

              "And I say unto you - how large is your Holy Bbibble? Is it the size of your Holy SUV or at least your other car? Do not be ashamed if it is not. The word of the Lord is a powerful thing... a powerful thing... a truly powerful thing. But if you can open your Holy Book without hydraulic assistance - you may not be as great a Christian as you think!" parishioners in his megachurch clap and some yell "Praise God!"

    • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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      3 months ago

      B-but muh superior western education system that teaches creativity and critical thinking!

    • The_sleepy_woke_dialectic [he/him]
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      3 months ago

      which invariably gives the most generic solution possible with little room for creative thinking.

      An example. I needed to get an old truck that would turn over but wouldn't start to move just a short distance so I could work on it. I had the idea "hey, I wonder if the starter can move the truck on it's own" I google it, the Google AI I didn't ask for tells me its impossible and dangerous. The Quora AI I didn't ask for waffles on for several paragraphs and tells me the same. Finally I find some mechanics who say they do it all the time and it's safe.

  • Parzivus [any]
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    3 months ago

    The shriveled up part of my brain that views the world exclusively through Slammer posts is vindicated more by the day

  • emizeko [they/them]
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    3 months ago

    why do people keep screaming "prosody" at me? ah well, probably not important.