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"No, no, I uh, I uh, uhhh, look fat, you're YOU are the Russian"
Here’s the deal, Jack: you call me a tankie, but listen—back in ’68, Prague, Hungary, all those places… tanks everywhere. Ten, twenty tanks in one city. You better believe it. I stood up against communism, and Mao! We stood up against it too, folks - many times, we beat the drum against…We had a victory over communism, just like my administration had a victory over…over, Social Security. My dad used to say… wait… Oh, right, victory. I cede my time.
O/U on it being before Biden or his camp call anyone saying he should step down one?
A key part of Blue MAGA, one which this article doesn't highlight, which Newsweek is probably incapable of highlighting, is the belief that the United States can turn back the clock and return to a nostalgic, mythical golden age. This is the common foundation which MAGA and Blue MAGA are founded upon. A political outlook resembling the belief that a pile of ashes can be turned back into a tree.
The "Blue MAGA" accusations have been aimed at those who have suggested they will still vote for Biden despite accusations he is too old or lacking cognitive ability to remain in office for a second term.
There's also no word of genocide or all the other shit
"We are like two days away from Blue MAGA arguing cognitive decline is a made up ailment invented by the New York Times."
That was like two days ago when blue MAGA called NYT "Russian disinformation" for suggesting he might have parkinson
It's all the suburbanites who've benefited from inflation, owners of inflating assets like homes and rental properties which in this monstrous aberration of a country literally represents tens of millions of people
Then you add their trust-fund maladjusted brats into the picture and suddenly this army of psycho centrists make sense
I don't know how they can't see their positions sliding to the right
They don't care because it's the blues doing it. Hell they don't care if they go full right (see praising immigration and genocide) as long as it's a blue
Yeah, all those people back in the 20th were right about class interests being more important than any ideology for many people.
"I'm BlueMAGA and proud of it, if that means standing up for democracy, stopping Trump, Project 2025, Agenda 47, MAGA and staying in the fight with the most legislatively successful president in modern American history: Mr. Joe Biden," the PAC posted.
Beyond parody. Sounds exactly like a MAGA chud but for
Most legislatively successful president in modern history?
Sam Seder also said recently that Biden is the best Dem president in living memory (low bar).
Where are these things coming from? Like, unironically, I want to know what they're referring to
Sam Seder also said recently that Biden is the best Dem president in living memory (low bar).
They are liberals and can only remember as far back as what they had for breakfast.
Taking this in good faith, it's possible Biden's genocide(s?) and other policies have led to fewer deaths than those of Obama and Clinton.
Biden: Palestine, Yemen, I assume some others I'm forgetting about, COVID domestically
Obama: Yemen, continued the US occupation of the middle east (but Biden was VP for those so feel like he probably has to get some credit)
Clinton: Bombing of Yugoslavia, Iraq (al-Shifa pharmaceutical factory), the crime bill domestically (but written by Biden soooo)
Even so, this is like comparing which Axis leader was the "best" during WWII. It doesn't matter and all of them deserve the wall.
Can’t forget Ukraine deaths from forcing the war to be prolonged. That’s a lot of death.
Palestine and Ukraine might already be over million deaths, COVID is yet another million just in the USA. Of course Obama participated in 13 wars so it probably evened out, but Biden is directly to blame for those too as VP. Also he was president for 4 years while Obama and Clinton had 8 each.
But when we count in social murder USA did all over the world it's probably meaningless to compare, it's an evenly churning death machine.
I've been using that joke for years. Because unless you run into someone up Trump or Obama's ass, it's hard to disagree with and such a huge indictment of the system as a whole. Because every regular person agrees that Biden sucks
Sam Seder also said recently that Biden is the best Dem president in living memory
Only thing this prove is that they really have the memory of goldfish.
Oh man I saw that segment and scouring back through my watched videos to find it for context (will edit later with the link when I find it). Idk about "living memory" (if that direct phrase was quoted), but I remember him talking about in his memory *comparing president's like Clinton/Obama/Biden (maybe Carter was included). I still agree that statement was rather perplexing without him immediately filling in the context of what he means.
Happily though, I seem to recall his team immediately rejecting the premise and pushing back on his statement as un-profound. I think it's something he needs to clarify, as it seems to hit everyone's nerves a bit. Kinda funny how one statement can paint a picture of a guy and now a commenter is calling him a Liberal lol (he constantly has segments arguing with callers who are lib).
It was a caller who suggested Biden was the best, and Sam agrees. The team didn't push back. His reasoning was that it is an incredibly low bar to clear.
ok, thanks for narrowing the search down I guess? Just as an offside, if someone remembers differently then going "nuh uh, THIS happened" is just unhelpful without providing the context (article, video, anything so it's not just two crabby people arguing over perception or misremembering).
Definitely not arguing. Just saying if I refuted anything you responded back with, it would quickly dissolve into just a weird no-context dispute lol. You might be right with the push back, I just remember that they didn't agree (maybe just the vibe they were giving off without fully dissecting how his statement was false).
But I digress, off to work for the day where I can listen to the videos in the background so I can edit with a timestamp on my original reply. Thank you for the replies and have a good day!
Thanks! It's on the of those dumb things that popped into my head a while back and I decided I should use it for something
Because it finally broke thru in the comments on
politics threads about how much Biden brickedI was lurking over there just for the laughs. This almost makes up for libs learning the word "tankies"
Now the liberals will learn "patsoc" or "magacom" in the next episode "The Neoliberal Empire Strikes Back!"
Monkey paw curls, pazi catches on but it's the anarchists calling the tankies that because "tankie" no longer makes communists mad
We should definitely stop using "Red Tories", not only there isn't anything red about them, but this idiom is very close to "red fash" and will legitimise it.
I really don't think we can get that to happen, it has an absolutely ridiculous amount of usage and history with an actual clear meaning for a political line of thought beyond just being an insult. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_Tory
The explicit notion of a "Red" Toryism was developed by Gad Horowitz in the 1960s
Yooo that's wild, i literally heard it first time few days ago after the Brit elections so i thought it's something new.
i'm not sure thats applicable really, like, normal libs in my life have called the current labour admin red tories, but i don't think they've ever even heard the term "red fash" because that's some obscure
shit. and while labour may not be red in the commie sense, i don't think we could get them to change the entire parties branding lmaoand i like getting to insult them
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1e0afli/what_is_blue_maga_joe_bidens_vocally_online/ - 42% upvoted
https://www.reddit.com/r/politics/comments/1e0a902/blue_maga_is_entering_the_american_political/ - 31% upvoted
At least currently the hogs don't seem to be squealing over it, just mass-downvoting.
The people calling others BlueMaga seem to be gaining traction too
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Hahahahaha and they tried so hard for tankie to get adopted over the years
Sucks to suck
They're two different things in my opinion. BlueMaga are the process nerds and horse race freaks.
BlueAnon are the ones saying that CNN tampered with Brandon's mic to make him seem old
Not sure. It's is possible, since we have been just about the only people that felt that way about democrats for the longest time. Also, we have
Been around since at least(?) 2019 I think.
I want to say it started when liberals were sweeping Biden's sexual assault under the rug and tut-tutting people for mentioning the many horrid pieces of legislation he has been responsible for.
The oldest reference to it should be discoverable via search, there's text archives of both forums for better or worse.
First instance of Blue Maga or BlueMaga:
https://hexbear.net/comment/5995 26 July 2020 06:21:26 GMT
@ComradeStalin@hexbear.netBlue Maga
First instance of BlueAnon or Blue Anon:
https://hexbear.net/comment/72555 14 August 2020 01:14:29 GMT
@glimmer_twin@hexbear.netBlue MAGA, plus Russiagate is BlueAnon
Were you on the old sub? I swear I remember it being used in primary season, probably in or before March?
I have facebook posts using it April 2020, proving I did in fact invent the term, heh (nobody doxx me)
My first use of the term was specifically in regards to the SA allegations by Tara Reade and how the Biden Bros (tm) were acting just like their redMAGA counterparts in case anyone wants to know their history
I started saying it while insulting liberals and never read it anywhere before I started saying it so I'm pretty sure I invented it, you're all welcome
Lol, i crossposted this to lemmy to see if it makes any libs mad, now we just need some politician to say tankie
tankeeeeeee
Red Tories
