People discounting the chance of Trump dying are forgetting that he's still Trump. Dude has the best medical care on the planet, no one would blame him for chilling out a few more days, but he might actually kill himself. Shits hilarious
People discounting it don't understand how this virus works. We are only day 4 into his confirmed infection. It takes over a week for the full side effects to kick in.
He's already suffering from breathing issues. He refused oxygen at the hospital and bullied his way out after getting high as a kite on steroids thinking he's cured.
Give it 2-4 weeks and he's most likely going to be right back in the hospital, only this time on a ventilator.
Yeah seriously when I had it, I didn't really have many breathing issues until the second week. The fact that he's having trouble breathing now is a very bad sign.
My guess is that he's going to be fucked up from this for the rest of his life even if it doesn't kill him.
My guess is that he’s going to be fucked up from this for the rest of his life even if it doesn’t kill him.
Good. It's his own doing. Fuck him and fuck Pence. I'd wish AIDS' slow death on Reagan if he was still alive. These fuckers not taking shit like this seriously is sweet karmic justice when that shit happens to them.
Wasn't there talk that he might actually be 3-4 more days into it than they're letting on?
People discounting it don’t understand how this virus works. We are only day 4 into his confirmed infection. It takes over a week for the full side effects to kick in.
People who still think he'll die don't understand immunology. Antibodies clear the virus. He was literally pumped full of monoclonal antibodies of basically any type that is physically existent in the world.
If he was anybody else then yes, of course he'd be dead
Aren't you the same person who was saying a few days ago that he wasn't really sick and it was all a publicity stunt? Now you are saying he's going to be fine? lol.
I'm operating on the idea that it isn't a campaign stunt. If it was a stunt he'll obviously be fine.
If it wasn't then still big chances of him being fine.
I love to see him die but I'm also not into cope
Trump just swallowing a bullet after November and spraying his brains across the Oval Office would be fucking epic.
If his last words are "I can't breathe," then it's undeniable proof that reality is a giant joke.
I will cease being an atheist and become a dystheist/misotheist that very day.
communion at the mesotheliomist congregation is a lot more problematic than amongst the misotheists.
i assume yes, from a theological standpoint.
imagine if you will, a theoretical visit to the hellfires by jesus. would jesus burn in hellfire?
little known fact: jesus could only walk on water because he wore special sandals with duckies on the sides
i will take anything really, if he sneezes and looses his balance and fall down the stairs i will take that too
Words cannot express how hyped I am to scribble his name in crayon onto the victims of communism memorial
CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY INFECTED TRUMP BY FORCING HIM TO HAVE A BAD COVID RESPONSE AND BE AN UNHEALTHY 70 YEAR OLD
On the one hand, I have severe asthma, and from watching the way his shoulders and neck are moving, I can FEEL the struggle, and am tempted to sympathize
On the other hand, DIE BITCH HAHAHAAATrump would let you and your whole family die of COVID-19 if it meant the line goes up by 0,01%
He doesn’t deserve an ounce of sympathy this could not be more his own fucking fault
It’s hard. I felt similarly and have also felt similarly when seeing Biden have dementia moments.
See, that's sad because there's nothing you can do about it. He's just old. He's starting to deteriorate because he dared to get old. He's a horrible monstrous ghoul, but this flaw is not his fault.
Trump quite literally brought his current condition on himself. He did everything he possibly could to ensure as many people as possible would be infected, including himself.
The sight of a human suffering isn’t great to watch
Lmao yes it is. Remember that Nazis forfeit their humanity when they choose to become Nazis.
the sight of a human suffering isn't great to watch
Big disagree, watching shit bags and fascists suffer from the very disease they've sentenced hundreds of thousands to die from is great. I hope he chokes to death on him own blood in the middle of a rally. Fuck him.
He literally took his mask off in front of his staff as soon as he got back to the WH and told everyone that Covid was nothing to worry about
IDK about regeneron, but Gilead is already toast, everybody already knows remdesivir doesn't do shit
Few posters remember the original meaning of “wet” and “dry.” Some would tell you it’s the sweat, some would say it’s the humor, but unfortunately we just can never know. The knowledge was buried with the posters of yore, who saw the meme wars and the raids on r/libertarian and when shutting down the sub for a joke wasn’t very nice. All I can say is that you just know when someone is dry and when someone is wet. While we can never know the original meaning of phrases like “dry boy”, we carry on the spirit of those brave posters in our blood and in our bones.
To play devils advocate, the video that's circulating is after he walked up a flight of stairs. He is old and fat so he could have just been out of breath from that.
Exertion could be a factor, but the difference between this and just being generally out-of-breath is apparent in the fact that he's laboring to INHALE.
The question is whether he's cleared the virus. If he has, he's not going to die. And it's extremely likely that he has because he's been pumped full of high tech antibodies and everything that you can think of.
Obesity is only an issue on the path to clearing the virus, because the immune response and viral damage can both be pushed "over the edge" by obesity (obesity means higher baseline inflammation and lung dysfunction).
If the virus is truly cleared, it's not an issue. Plenty of obese people have contracted covid with 0 issues, and plenty of thin people (like myself) have issues almost 1 year later. Obesity only matters if you fit a certain immune profile to begin with. And since Trump got pumped full of antibodies, it doesn't much matter what his immune profile is.
Feel free to downvote me out of frustration anyway.
Supposedly he was not cleared to go and just said fuck it. I'm out of here
We’re not downvoting you out of frustration, we’re downvoting you because you’re wrong.
No was has he cleared the virus yet. That doesn’t mean he’s going to die, but the timeline isn’t right.
I know more about the virus than pretty much anyone, because I've been houseridden by it and reading about it since March. I've been to about 15 doctors and I know more about it than 14 of them, probably equal for the last 1.
It's very hard for some to actually test positive, because the viral counts go down extremely quickly in some people. Two weeks after the very first symptoms, your average chance of testing positive (assuming you actually had the virus) goes down to 33%, which is important because the first week of symptoms is usually so mild that people don't even consider it noticeable until retrospect.
The fact that trump tested positive means they probably caught it early, before it could do much damage.
In addition, they gave him antibodies. People who suffer more from the virus, and who shed it for longer amounts of time, are actually more likely to produce antibodies. He basically got that solution without actually having to go through the motions (and risk death)
People who have lasting dysfunction, CFS/ME, "long hauler" COVID, don't produce antibodies, but apparently clear the virus somehow. Trump is unlikely to die or suffer any lasting effects, other than possibly whatever damage has been done up until this point.
He is (probably) luckily that he got monoclonal antibodies, especially so early after testing positive.
There’s basically two ways the body fights off the virus - lymphocytes (innate immune system) and antibodies (adaptive immune system). It generally takes the body about two weeks to formulate a blueprint to mount an antibody response, In the mean time you’re relying on innate immunity.
On the other hand Trump’s Covid seems to have progressed to severe very quickly (lung infiltration, treatment with dexamethasone), so even the fact that he received monoclonal antibodies might have been too little too late. It will be really interesting to see what happens at day 8-10 of symptoms.
Also the preliminary data from the Phase II trials of the antibody treatment Trump received was mostly based on younger, healthier patients. It’s not clear how effective it would be in a 74 year old with underlying health conditions.
Dude's jacked on 'roids. He should be able to spin windmills. If he's still choking now, he's got problems that Walter Reed won't be able to fix at his White House bedside.
