I have criticized the CCP for creating their own bourgeoise and the letting them into their communist party. Breaking up Alibaba is good. Purging Jack Ma is better. The CCP must purge all their bourgeoise now that they successfully have increased their productive capacity.
:haram: No more free range bourgeoise.
:halal: Only factory farmed bourgeoise.
they need to completely purge Jiang Zemin and his Shanghai clique, the big neolib part of the CCP, don't know if Xi's plan is still full Communism, but he seems the most left of the modern leaders.
Didn’t Jiang Zemin get slowly dismantled under Hu Jintao, with Xi finishing the job?
the end goal is probably some crazy AI powered planned economy with no private enterprises at all.
Karl Marx saw coops much like unions as an interesting tool within class struggle and proably transition. A socialist economy would have no privat enterprises (coop or otherwise), no markets and no money. I never understood why the modern left has such a hard one for coops. Capitalism is shit not because all the capitalists are evil, but because the profit motive has it's own logic, it would be the same logic in a coop. A rational economy is a planned one, that doesn't mean that it must resemble the hyper centralized top-down soviet model of planning.
I never understood why the modern left has such a hard one for coops.
I have a hard on for coops in the context of a transitional phase, I think that's what most actual marxists have in mind. Having all private enterprise be coops would probably soften the damage market logic does at least somewhat.
There's probably a lot of socdems that think coops are the be all end all of socialism though.
I know they have more than your average western country but do you have any info how many exactly?
Not having a bourgeois class shouldnt be a controversial requirement for achieving communism. I can't set China's schedule nor was I attempting to. Hopefully Xi and the CCP will do so at whatever pace is appropriate. They've done well so far as getting productive forces up.
All you or I can do oberserve when it comes to China.
How about you work on building a socialist movement in your own society instead of telling others what to do? I can't believe this shit is upvoted so high. Do western leftists think China can just push the communism button?
It's not that they can "push the communism button", but it's more like "turn the socialism dial". As the country continues to grow and establish itself, the expectation is that the dial is turned "up".
That's not to say that I think they are at the point of going full speed ahead and re-nationalizing everything, but slapping around their billionaires like this is always gonna be a big plus. Hopefully the day is near where the wealth of Chinese billionaires is reappropriated back to Chinese workers, ideally with support from the Party.
I'm not a public figure, nor a journalist, nor is this even twitter or Facebook. This is a leftist shitposting board. So why do you give so many shits about my opinion of a country I have no influence over?
Do western leftists think China can just push the communism button?
I'm just sharing my analysis of China's current state and what their path forward looks to be. You should understand that we ought have a consesus on major foreign politics. Do you really want it to just be "Everything is great / Mind your own business"?
The comment is not just at you but is directed at the 70+ people who upvoted you. You can have your opinion, just like I have my own opinion that Western leftists make stupid comments about AES. Like "purging" its capitalist class as if that wont just result in violent counterrevolution and diplomatic isolation in a crucial moment where China is finally exerting soft power and fighting against overt US imperialism. Not to mention the social conditions dont even exist where the majority of the population want to transition to a socialist system.
Sure. It's weird that low effort post I literally made on the shitter at work got the most up votes I've ever gotten. I just was trying to cheer on what I saw was a good thing. I'm not going to scold Xi for not going after Pony Ma immediately after but I'll cheer when he does.
I mean it's good either way but anti monopoly is better going forward
This Xi guy seems to get in personal beefs with a lot of billionaires when they do corrupt things. Weird!
Xi: cracks down on the sort of sketchy consumer credit that has helped eat away at American society
Also Xi: Purges 2 dozen billionaires cause China is cracking down in intelligence.
:xi-shining:
“The party has once again reminded all private entrepreneurs that no matter how rich and successful you are it can pull the rug out from under your feet at any time”
:xi-lib-tears:
Remember, by using this site you have legally agreed to take back all criticisms of China if Xi purges Jack Ma
@Beatnik please add this to the ToS
Honestly if they purge Jack Ma the mods can purge me too for doubting.
:mao-shining:
I wish I was good at hearts of Iron 4 and could bring about the glorious revolution.
Not really, it was a crass joke about the person above me saying purges are good
Florida in a few weeks: Damn there's a lot of Chinese people here suddenly.
nah they hated him before because he talked english bad in front of le elon musk
Analysts and policy experts said Beijing’s action against Ma’s companies was likely to have been sparked by the blunt speech he gave to the Bund summit in Shanghai on 24 October, criticising overbearing regulation and the state dominance of banking.
“We shouldn’t use the way to manage a train station to regulate an airport,” Ma said, according to a transcript. “We cannot regulate the future with yesterday’s means.
Sounds like he was pushing for liberalisation and Xi said "No".
Last time I took amtrak they had the station changed to be more like an airport, like with a gate and shit for no reason, this experience has fueled my hatred for this country every time I feel my motivation slipping.
They’re redesigning it to save money for the companies who’ll buy the routes once Amtrak gets privatized in 3 years
Amtrak actually runs on private rail lines for most of its routes, they only own the cars and are deprioritize behind freight trains. Only a little bit (by miles) of the rail is Amtrak owned.
Going from about to have the highest ipo in world history to possibly relieved of their head: the Jack Ma story.
does that mean by buying from Aliexpress, i directly support the CCP?
DOES ANYBODY NEED ANYTHING I'M BOUT TO PUT IN AN ORDER
Yes, and the shipping used to be free as well (not very frequently anymore, unfortunately).
You can still get fantastic deals on all sorts of stuff though. Like lets say you're making an IFAK and you want a particular pouch to put the kit in. You can probably find for $10-$30 what the medical supplies company in the US will charge $100 for (just the pouch itself I mean; consensus is to not go cheap on stuff like tourniquets). After browsing though a lot of stuff like this on there, I think the US companies are literally selling the same product most of the time, just with their logo added to it.
Just be aware that covid has really fucked with container ships, so expect to wait up to around 70 days for your stuff to get here.
They have a new customer deal for your first purchase, I got a USSR flag for a cent!
does that mean by buying from Aliexpress, i directly support the CCP?
holy shit this would make me happy
