Permanently Deleted

  • DragonNest_Aidit [they/them,use name]
    ·
    4 years ago

    Frontier is peak rightie perception of Fallout: mindless, tasteless, wasteland schlock with trite militarism that utterly misses the influence of leftist thought that made the series what it is.

    • Barabas [he/him]
      ·
      4 years ago

      Wasn't exactly unexpected. The three factions are, legion, BOS holdout and more militaristic NCR from what I could tell. All varying flavours of fash.

      • DragonNest_Aidit [they/them,use name]
        ·
        4 years ago

        Yep, but all of them are clearly depicted as imperialistic (yes even bos, theyre just temporarily embarrassed) self-serving entities who are driven mostly by the interest of their ruling class. Well, some are obviously worse than the other, but New Vegas definitely tries to not lionize any of them.

        Frontier on the other hand, just see "woah cool soldiers/romans/power armor" and didn't go beyond that, besides the usual surface characteristics of them anyway.

        • Barabas [he/him]
          ·
          4 years ago

          Frontier on the other hand, just see “woah cool soldiers/romans/power armor” and didn’t go beyond that, besides the usual surface characteristics of them anyway.

          This is what I was referring to. Checked out their site when it came out and looked at some of the trailers and it seemed like hot garbage.

      • 420clownpeen [they/them,any]
        ·
        4 years ago

        There's also Mr. House, who lords over New Vegas and the casinos. He's got more of a right libertarian flavor to him, ideologically. There is, however, an ending where

        partial spoiler

        all of those factions lose.

        • Barabas [he/him]
          ·
          4 years ago

          I was talking about "The Frontier" specifically. I'd argue that NCR in NV are pretty lib, in the current american sense. The Frontier took BOS and made them the heroes (and gave them a crusader theme, subtle), NCR and made them more militaristic and Legion and made that the three factions.

    • OgdenTO [he/him]
      ·
      4 years ago

      In lots of the fallout series, these people would be the bad guys you meet in the desert.

    • eduardog3000 [he/him]
      ·
      4 years ago

      The devs called The Enclave (supposed continuation of the US gov) fascists and didn't include a storyline for them, and the real fascists got mad.

      • CliffordBigRedDog [he/him]
        ·
        4 years ago

        The complaint is that the mods says that enclave is too evil to join when the legion exists as a joinable faction

    • Azarova [they/them]
      ·
      edit-2
      4 years ago

      vampire the masquerade bloodlines mods, and there was some egregiously bad shit.

      omg are you talking about Final Nights?? That has some of the WORST seduction dialogue i've ever seen. if you failed the seduction, your character says some really gross and misogynistic stuff against your will.

        • TheCaconym [any]
          ·
          4 years ago

          Ah, I installed that one for my SO for her last playthrough and I think she mentioned something like this; a creepy part in a strip club or something ? in a new area ? it seemed really weird (like she had to do weird awful things with an NPC in a quest even if trying to play "good" or get attacked or something, it was a while back, probably don't remember it right).

      • Barabas [he/him]
        ·
        4 years ago

        Seems true to the VTM larp community. Or maybe that was just the ones I encountered.

    • TheCaconym [any]
      ·
      edit-2
      4 years ago

      I used to play vampire the masquerade bloodlines

      Such a good game though (the only mods I used were the unofficial patch + content restored). Shame the end was rushed. I fully expect to be disappointed with the upcoming VTMB2, but maybe not.

    • Theblarglereflargle [any]
      ·
      4 years ago

      TBF that’s in character for a franchise that used Chechnya's anti-gay purges as a plot point in the remastered tabletop edition.

        • Theblarglereflargle [any]
          ·
          4 years ago

          Vampire the Masquerade is pure EDGE without restraint. Google it they gave the reigns to a lifelong player who made this shit for the current lore which made paradox nuke the entire table top game for a bit.

          • Chutt_Buggins [he/him]
            ·
            4 years ago

            Nearly every part of that sentence makes me want to never google this ever.

            But of course... I will

            • Theblarglereflargle [any]
              ·
              edit-2
              4 years ago

              Happy hunting. Enjoy the test character who was a pediphile and how one clans weakness was called “triggered” as well!

              • Chutt_Buggins [he/him]
                ·
                4 years ago

                oh jesus,

                How does this end up sounding more deranged than Varg Vikernes' tabletop game with built-in genocide mechanics?

                • Theblarglereflargle [any]
                  ·
                  edit-2
                  4 years ago

                  Because LARPERS were involved in it’s creation. That said no tabletop cringe will ever be worse then the fucking lamentation of the flame princess module with required rape mechanics and Pygmy enemies winning a nest of award.

    • Theblarglereflargle [any]
      ·
      4 years ago

      This mod was in development longer then it took me to finish college and get into a masters program, it was specifically “BY GMERS FOR GMERS” all the choices weren’t bugs, they were features chosen by the creators.

      It def needed some different voices chiming in but then that would have “destroyed the vision” or some shit.

    • camaron28 [he/him]
      ·
      4 years ago

      In Fallout NV you can be a piece of shit so grooming a slave, while fucked up, could be an interesting choice if you go down certain paths. But this is just porn.

  • kristina [she/her]
    ·
    4 years ago

    turning america into a slave girl? uhhh so your name is capitalism right

  • TheDonkeyedKong [he/him]
    ·
    4 years ago

    Not to mention the dumb as fuck CoD style setpieces that no one asked for. It feels kinda bad to shit on something that people spent 7 years on, but it looks really bad.

  • cum_on_jack [any]
    ·
    edit-2
    4 years ago

    im playing new vegas for the first time after playing FO4 on console. so far I cant believe how much they expanded the interface and graphics of the game from NV to FO4, like wow. also excited cuz i heard the NV story line is great, but god damn, i move so slow compared to FO4 and im pretty sure there isn't even a button for melee in NV...? let alone equip favorite items and shit. its a mixed bag. im a prattling shrew.

    • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
      ·
      4 years ago

      FNV got a lot of those things from mods way back when. Like FO4 basically felt like it incorporated a ton of the quality of life things that modders had brought to FNV, and then upgraded the engine a bit to have better gunplay, animations, graphics, etc.

      • cum_on_jack [any]
        ·
        edit-2
        4 years ago

        oh shit i didnt know that... i copped a FNV .iso file online so i prob cant get those mods. thats a bummer. maybe ill just fucking replay FO4 on pc with mods for the firs time

        edit: im a pleb

        • abc [he/him, comrade/them]
          ·
          4 years ago

          … i copped a FNV .iso file online so i prob cant get those mods

          bruh you can get any mod from even Steam Workshop , pirated copies be damned. You just need the workshop mod link

          • 420clownpeen [they/them,any]
            ·
            4 years ago

            Pretty sure one can just drag and drop full copies of DLC directories in to add them too, although maybe there was slightly more of a process to it with FNV. It's drag and drop with F4 tho.

        • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
          ·
          4 years ago

          Nexus mods doesn't require owning a game since it's a third party site. Even steam workshop stuff can usually be gotten in one way or another too. I'm not sure what the go-to mods are these days; I used project nevada back in the day but that's apparently deprecated and a broken mess now, while its main features are done better and more stably by other more tightly focused mods now. Someone linked me a big list breaking all the elements down and saying what the replacement is, but I forgot to save the link and can't find it in my replies now.

    • Sen_Jen [they/them]
      ·
      4 years ago

      Unfortunately the gameplay is the worst thing about the video game, which is a problem. The shooting feels ineffective, enemies barely react to being shot in the head and the movement is so clunky and slow. There is an excellent story if you can get past that, but I don't blame you for not wanting to slog through a bunch of boring stuff when 4 had such improved gameplay

    • camaron28 [he/him]
      ·
      4 years ago

      I replayed a few days ago and discovered that you move faster if you aren't pointing your gun (hold the R button). Or maybe you already knew this and i'm just a dumbass.

      • zeal0telite [he/him,they/them]
        ·
        4 years ago

        That's just for two handed weapons. You walk at full speed even if you have your pistol or knife drawn.

    • ComradeMikey [he/him]
      ·
      4 years ago

      that was the first dlc i had ever played and i did know it was a dlc. as a kid i was so hyped when it ended bc i was way over leveled for early game with insane gear. this was my first fallout play through. LMAO I have fond memories as a result tbh

  • shitstorm [he/him]
    ·
    4 years ago

    I read this completely wrong at first and thought, "that's cool an NPC can make you a sub" but that's not what's happening.

  • AlexandairBabeuf [they/them]
    ·
    4 years ago

    Gratified I didn't get into the hype and try to download.

    Mostly because frozen wasteland is intensely uninteresting to me but definite bonus avoiding stupid writing