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  • Awoo [she/her]
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    4 years ago

    I predicted this and it is only the beginning.

    If you pull leftists out of a website what you are left with are centrists and the far right. The space becomes more toxic because you've pulled out the leftwing opposition to the far right.

    As people generally want to occupy pleasant spaces, the outcome of doing this is that you've made the space less pleasant for everyone that isn't far right. Over time, this causes more and more people to abandon the space because it is insufferable for them. They go look for some other space that they actually enjoy. This makes the space even more toxic as it removes more and more people on the left-most side to the far right. The remaining people either assimilate to the behaviour of the space or leave it.

    A steady rightwards march will continue to occur on reddit. It is in decline.

    • Dear_Occupant [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Also,

      • E. Once you clear your brain of libshit, everything looks more right-wing because you're seeing it clearly for the first time.
    • loptional [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      It slightly radicalized permanently online libs, it was a net positive on that whole hell site

    • KammeraadDouwe [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      It sounds kinda pretentious but I feel like the Chapo sub was on the cutting edge of meme culture. For example, it was the first place I really saw boomer memes and 'woke' memes. Things that would become part of the discourse in my country about a year later.

      Not to say that these memes originated in the sub. But from my limited perspective chapo was very 'with it'.

      • ElGosso [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        It was a crossover space between Reddit and Twitter so you saw the best of both memes there

  • loptional [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Yep r/unpopularopinion and r/actualpublicfreakout are getting to the front page with heavily upvoted fash talking points

  • luxurycommunism [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    my state is filled to the brim with libs but you'd think it was the deep south if you went into the subreddit

    • Sushi_Desires
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      4 years ago

      I really think it has to do with the right's obsession with "the culture wars" and the insane sums of money they are willing to spend on astrotuf, at least, maybe.

      I have mentioned this often, but I watched an interview with Chris Hedges in which he recounts getting invited to visit a right-wing think tank, and he describes walking into a room full of cubicles packed with 'workers' editing wikipedia articles.

      If they are willing to spend that much trying to revise history, there is no way they aren't trying to create the illusion of a conservative state of mind across all social media platforms, where they perceive the forefront of the culture war to be (a battle that every non-failson knows they cannot win organically)

      It's like the Soros Bux meme, except it's actually real, and the money comes from Koch, Mercer, DeVos fortunes etc.

        • Sushi_Desires
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          4 years ago

          I see where you are coming from, and yeah the natural progression of capitalism would certainly tend to lead to outsourcing or automation. I do not know what era Chris was discussing, but I trust him enough to not lie about something like this. It is possible to identify a lot of Turf on Twitter because the account name is literally part of a word or name, usually incomplete, followed by eight random digits. The number of digits never really seems to even change. I would suspect that yes, that is automation (or at least botting to create sock accounts).

          NDAs also exist. I mean, video game publishers subject people to this sort of document just for access to early releases for independent review (they aren't even monetarily compensated). I do not think we would need to assume that these far-right 'institutions' compensate workers well, but rather it's more like they enforce their will through fear (revocation of access, etc), power, and their litigious reputations.

          • Darkmatter2k [none/use name]
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            4 years ago

            Also remember that these orgs over time filter out people who aren't ideologically aligned. This probably isn't the kind of job you get straight out of college, theres been a vetting process.

        • Darkmatter2k [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          I seriously doubt they are paying Americans a GOOD wage(It has to be good, or else they would be leaking info) to do this.

          Don't underestimate the return on investment for doing this, It keeps the population asleep, it spreads Americas neoliberal capitalist ideology around the world.

          Can't remember the name of it, but there's a wikipedia "editor" account who apparently never sleeps, and spends every waking moment of his life editing articles about journalists, relating to american wars, foreign policy, coups etc etc.

    • morbx [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      all state/local subs are pure trash. golden rule of reddit.

    • spectre [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      It seems like the lib city subs I used to browse reallllly took a turn after the election. It was pretty obvious outsiders (from T_D or otherwise) who wanted to stir things up about the protests that happened. They were never the same after that.

  • LaikaComeHome [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Glad I’m not the only one who feels this way. The day they released that new footage of George Floyd’s murder, the comments being upvoted to the top made me fucking sick, basically just astroturfed with shit saying “well he was going to die anyway so what the cops did is fine”

    Even in spaces that haven’t become outright fash, the liberalism is outta control. Any slight criticism of Biden is met with screeches of “WELL BERNIE LOST AND YOURE JUST SOUR!” You can’t even discuss pushing Joe to the left, anything short of blind allegiance gets you called a trumper

      • Sushi_Desires
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        4 years ago

        The presser yesterday was actually insane. He basically said Joe is antifa lmfao

        • SerLava [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          I think the Republicans have just created an opportunity for us to literally help Joe Biden by talking about how much we hate him and I don't know what to do with this information.

  • heqt1c [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Yes, which is why I fully support smart brigading from this community. Need to practice good opsec though.

  • ElGosso [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    There was a big leftward swing when the George Floyd protests started but I think it's just returning to normal.

    • RedArquebus1917 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      I feel like, similar with a lot of social media platforms, waves of leftist sentiment do arise when the ugliness of capitalism gains a degree of exposure. However, like in 2017, it unfortunately tends to be short-lived outside of certain communities.

  • hirsute [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    It’s been pretty reactionary for as long as I can remember. Getting rid of leftist subs just let’s it return to its original state.

    I think my first experiences with Reddit were twelve years ago maybe, and the place was crawling with fash then. God knows what subs I was on, probably r/politics, but most discussions went from zero to Protocols of the Elders of Zion shit in about four posts. Gay bashing, slurs, everything was out there.

    Banning r/cth and other subs like it just let’s the garbage that was always there be more prominent.

  • piss [none/use name]
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    4 years ago

    people were reporting being shadowbanned from up/downvoting after the sub was kill, reddit could've done it extensively enough to change what gets to the top across the site