• SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Reminds me of a study someone posted to me a couple weeks back. It was about the voices that schizophrenics heard in the USA versus other countries. In other countries the voices were kind and playful but in the USA they were menacing and evil.

    • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Star Wars did so in a way kind of. Like the aliens were a mix of friendly and evil. Like the cantina scene was so important for scifi history because it showed alien races drinking and mingling together with humans.

      • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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        3 years ago

        And then of course Han Solo the human walks in and shoots first . . . then revisionists changed the story to make the white man the victim . . . it's all coming together now, boys

          • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Solo took a job to smuggle for Jabba but dumped the cargo and ran when the cops showed up. Jabba placed a bounty for Solo's capture because Solo was gonna run off with the money and never make up for his mistake or repay. Greedo even gave Solo a chance to hand over the money and walk away without being captured but Solo refused.

            Also Solo stole Greedo's girlfriend

            • SteveHasBunker [he/him]
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              3 years ago

              Greedo even gave Solo a chance to hand over the money and walk away without being captured but Solo refused.

              But he didn’t have the money, that’s why he took the job transporting Luke and Obi Won.

              • Sephitard9001 [he/him]
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                3 years ago

                I'm mostly just doing this as a bit because Greedo is obviously a scumbag, but Solo actually isn't a hero character either. He knew the deal when he made it and then wanted to back out after getting what he wanted. Everyone involved was doing illegal shit anyway so they all knew the risk

      • jack [he/him, comrade/them]
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        3 years ago

        Yeah obviously this post is a bit cherry-picked. Multiple pictures are from The Thing alone.

        • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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          3 years ago

          True, but the point still stands that american scifi loves it's fear of the other like others have said, is baked into capitalism.

        • medium_adult_son [he/him]
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          3 years ago

          True, but they didn't even include the damn killer klowns from outer freaking space!

          • camaron28 [he/him]
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            3 years ago

            Or gayni--- of outer space. (Yes, that's a movie that exists).

    • zifnab25 [he/him, any]
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      3 years ago

      I thought it was projection of their sinister motives. Capitalists are telegraphing their intended behavior.

    • Pavlichenko_Fan_Club [comrade/them]
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      3 years ago

      Sort of. I would say that in general things like aliens, monsters, etc. as a form are a representation of alterity. It is very important to look closely at the creation of, and reaction to these figures in media as this can tell you a lot about 'otherness' in society itself. Guillermo del Toro is perhaps the best at bringing this coding to the forefront in its relations of marginalized characters, the actual monster itself, and the society that is doing that marginalization.

      What's important is that this coding of society's relation to alterity happens regardless of artistic intent as it is something bestowed by the viewer from within their standing in society.

      The recently published Towards a Posthuman Imagination in Literature and Media by Simona Micali is a really good book that touches on the ideological narrative created by these fantastical creatures.

    • maccruiskeen [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      It's all part of the projection, just like the white genocide conspiracy. Afraid of revenge because we know how shitty we are to minorities, but we'll never admit it.

  • camaron28 [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Well, this is proof of how the oppresed artists in the USSR chose to portray the americans as supreme beings who would liberate them from their terrible fate, also Hillary is good. /s

  • Volcatile [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    This is something that I've thinking about lately, it's that there were only a few Soviet horror movies. On this list of over 1000 Russian films there are 6 horror films, but one is post-1991 and one is pre-1917, so really only four USSR horror films.

    I've only seen Viy and Mister Designer and both are so much different than American horror. I've always believed that horror movies are an extension of societal fears, so does a lack of horror films mean a lack of fear in audiences?

    • CatherineTheSoSo [any]
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      3 years ago

      Master Designer was made after glasnost was established and Viy is based on classic Russian literature.

      I'd argue that lack of horror movies had more to do with the genre being disfavoured by the ministry of culture with actually paid for the movies to be made. From my experience there were obvious things that Soviet people feared. People feared nuclear war. Some people feared becoming a target of political repression.

  • OgdenTO [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Does anyone know what movies the USSRs are from? I think I recognize kin dza dza, but not any others

    • kleeon [he/him, he/him]
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      3 years ago

      from left to right, top to bottom:

      Guest from the Future

      not sure

      Moscow-Cassiopeia

      Guest from the Future

      Kin Dza Dza

      probably The Witches Cave

      Teens in the Universe

      and I'm not sure about the last three

      • late90smullbowl [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        Impressive :maduro-salute:

        Any chance of a ranking in order of quality? Might hit the torrents for some of these.

  • SteveHasBunker [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    5/10, left out Psycho Goreman

    Also, while this is funny, if aliens do exist they probably are gonna lean more towards the right side in terms of appearance and not just look like Russians in weird markup.

  • CatherineTheSoSo [any]
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    3 years ago

    Funny thing is that I found Kin-dza-dza more unsettling than any horror movie I've ever watched.

    • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Koo

      Capitalism in space is the worst possible outcome so they got to give it to you uncut.

      • neebay [any,undecided]
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        3 years ago

        it barely even had to be set in space lol, basically just watching a couple soviet tourists getting hassled in a capitalist country

  • MichoganGayFrog [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    Soviet Team got: Arrow Pattern Baldness, Die Antwood, Slinky Neck, Mom, Useful Headgear, Normal Person, Kraftwerk Pinhead, Outfit Made of Pokemon Cards, Lion Uncle and First Grade School Photo

    Murica got: Barracuda Man, Puss Grandpa, Shiny Joker, Batboy, The Principal from Ferris Bueller's Day Off, Ark of the Covenant Observer, Werms, Sandy Joker, Swirly