You've been punching criminals for decades now it's clearly not solving the problem.

You suck at stopping crime, Batman.

    • Wojackhorseman2 [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      My favorite thing about Harley is when Ivy is like “yea I guess if you consider trying to save the planet evil....”

  • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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    4 years ago

    Imagine using department of defense technology to stop a guy from robbing a liquor store to pay for his kid's insulin lmao

    • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      imagine using department of defense technology to stop help a guy from robbing a liquor store to pay for obtain his kids insulin by [parody in minecraft] tho

      capeshit could be so much cooler if "heroes" werent objectively villains

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        I would like capeshit a lot more if there was a proletarian superhero. The story could be about an Amazon worker who is forced by Jeff Bezos to be a test subject in his project to genetically engineer the perfect warehouse worker. But the experiment goes wrong, instead of subjecting the worker to union busting propaganda, he gets exposed to an extensive library of revolutionary theory and becomes The Red Star, who uses his superhuman speed and strength to fight capitalism.

        • crispyhexagon [none/use name]
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          4 years ago

          tony stark, but instead of a war criminal arms dealer that develops super weapons for the u.s to subjugate brown people with, he does a [satire] against washington after inheriting his fathers blood money :meow-popcorn:

          • GreenTeaRedFlag [any]
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            4 years ago

            He acknowledges that he didn't earn his money, and his family got it through evil means. He also is very charitable in a way that doesn't just benefit him. Yeah, it's not real, but it's entertaining.

    • StellarTabi [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Imagine a Batman story from the "bad guys" perspective where all the "bad guys" were only trying to do things like feed their children/steal insulin for their family members because of a capitalist hellscape.

  • threshold [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    it's leftist hack to say, but if Batman redistributed his wealth into the community, villains like the Penguin and Falcones wouldn't have a quarter of their control, and if Batman made public healthcare possible, perhaps even the more maniacal villains like Joker and Riddler wouldn't exist.

    • Huldra [they/them, it/its]
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      4 years ago

      Why is the riddler even a villain and not just like the worlds greatest creator of puzzles, crosswords and riddles?

      • AcidSmiley [she/her]
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        4 years ago

        He wanted to become a game designer, but a lack of ethics in game journalism made him cynical and bitter and drove him to a life of crime (radical feminist SJWs destroyed his lifelyhood just for making a puzzle-based lolicon dating simulator).

        • BezosDied [any]
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          4 years ago

          Hi, I’m with DC Films. Do you mind if I private message you with a business proposal?

      • threshold [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        riddle me this Batman, what percentage of the planet is water? Be careful Batman, it's not as simple as you'd think....

      • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        We forget but batman is elon musk. He is known to be the smartest man alive in his world. The greatest detective. So apart from being handsome, rich and strong he is modest about that.

        Riddler is usually just also elon musk but he wants to beat batman to prove he is smarter.

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    • threshold [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      very funny/shitty that the idea crime ridden cities are just inherently shitty has been disproven. Particularly with NY- maybe the closest real world analogue city to Gotham- now being the most peaceful it's been in decades.

      • SoyViking [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Isn't the fall in crime in New York mostly due to gentrification having displaced poor residents? Tax lawyers and hedge fund managers doesn't do blue collar crime like mugging tourists in the streets.

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        • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          While the Dark Knight was filmed in Chicago, it wasn't supposed to be based on any one particular real world city.

          • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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            4 years ago

            Huh, interesting. I always just assumed Gotham was Chicago (gothic, art Deco architecture, old times gangsters, windy) and Metropolis was New York

        • FidelCashflow [he/him]
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          4 years ago

          They used to call NYC Gotham. Batman anever felt very new york to me, but I wouldn't know really

  • Pezevenk [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    Batman is a billionaire who gets off of punching poor people.

    • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      That's the story I'd much rather see, but writers are too cowardly to tell it. The comics never show the hard life that poor people who have medical bills to pay (their own or their loved ones') have to go through, the struggle to never cross the line from being poor to being poor and homeless, the vast difference between a guy with enough money to revolutionize Earth's technology and the poor people who have the never ending day-to-day struggles that only briefly gets worse when a supervillain shows up but then only improves up to 'bad' again.

      But then they'd call the writer an SJW and accuse the comics of being cultural communism or whatever other buzzwords they're floating around at the time.

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    • MolotovHalfEmpty [he/him]
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      4 years ago

      Yeah. I seem to remember my comic book nerd roommate years and years ago once talking about how one writer basically used Batman as an allegory for police militarization, basically framing it as an arms race and Batman as the reason Gotham went from petty and some organised crime to endless supervillains doing crazy terrorism.

      • SerLava [he/him]
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        4 years ago

        Hell yes. It can't be a coincidence that the city sucks. And Batman himself is probably the largest employer, and probably responsible for the problems on both ends - how many criminals are current or former Wayne Industries employees who lost their fucking healthcare?

        I just posted this comment the other day about how to make an off-brand movie that destroys the Batman IP :joker-dancing:

      • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        There are like a million Batman comics written by enough people to populate a city. There's gonna be different takes.

  • cilantrofellow [any]
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    4 years ago

    Batman is an op by the wealthy to demonize and humiliate the poor

    • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      Possibly daredevil too (the comics that is). I remember reading a daredevil comic a decade or two ago where daredevil stops a robber/mugger and then takes him to a rooftop to have a chat with him in the hopes of getting him to better his ways. The robber's takeaway was instead that maybe he could be a better robber, that that's what daredevil was trying to teach him, and daredevil just leaves and sighs in frustration.

    • GalaxyBrain [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Batman wasn't invented by rich dudes. It's just a nearly hundred year old property and the character has been just about everything. Batman actually predates the CIA.

  • StLangoustine [any]
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    4 years ago

    Childhood is when you idolize Batman. Adulthood is when you realize the Joker makes more sense.

  • SerLava [he/him]
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    4 years ago

    ARKHAM ASYLUM IS ACTUALLY A WAYNE INDUSTRIES POLITICAL PRISON, AND VERY FEW OF THE OCCUPANTS ARE ACTUALLY INSANE.

  • UncleJoe [comrade/them]
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    4 years ago

    Childhood is when you idolize Spiderman. Adulthood is when you realize Big Wheel makes more sense

    • Sen_Jen [they/them]
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      4 years ago

      Adulthood is when you realise you should make a goblin costume that makes you look like a power ranger and fly around on a hoverboard shrieking at some kid

  • Wmill [they/them]
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    4 years ago

    I remember reading this philosophy book on batman. Big mistake, would not recommend. Even a sciencey book on the physiology was mired in fanboyism and cop apologia. I forget where I'm going with this but wanna say while Batman suck his fanboys suck harder.

    • Evilsandwichman [none/use name]
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      4 years ago

      His detractors aren't always much better, they usually don't like him because they say Batman should kill his foes.

      • Wmill [they/them]
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        4 years ago

        Both of them libs still. Killing one villain or another won't really fix anything unless they super rich I think. Batman's greatest threat has always been the status quo. He can never really bring about actual change so busy just running around plugging holes.

    • KobaCumTribute [she/her]
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      4 years ago

      "Batman is a Fascist" is, I think, an obvious but flawed reading of the character, because a lot of the plots that I remember have him played against overt Fascists as foils to him: he flirts with their ideology and is generally sympathetic towards their goals, but rejects their methods. That's right: he's a liberal. He supports violently keeping the downtrodden in their place and maintaining law and order with an iron fist, but also believes they should be kept alive and get idk non-refundable tax-credits for enrollment at Wayne Enterprises owned for-profit colleges if they have more than twenty thousand dollars of unpaid medical debt or some shit, and then the funds he gets from that will be split 50/50 between some charity vanity project and putting new wheels on his private super-car-tank, which he will then run over poor people with while joyriding around town. His ideology is more insidious than Fascism because it drops the warrior death cult shit for violence in the name of preserving the status quo and some half-assed social welfare to reduce proletarian tensions.