Capitalism when people dealing with medical conditions:
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My father told a story years back, in his field (chemistry) of someone stumbling across treatment for a disease using a common, widely available, and relatively inexpensive drug
The guy got blacklisted from working at universities and his paper buried
Years later (20 years?), it became discovered/commonly known
This is something the pharma industry does itself, it doesn't need any outside help
Why cure anything when you can milk insurance for treatments for whatever it is for the rest of someone's life?
This has permeated the medical/pharmaceutical industry so much that it affects the way we conceive of disease. It's most pronounced in mental health.
Pearl clutching about Americans being overweight.
Pearl clutching about Americans losing weight.spoiler
I hate this fucking country
I usually don't start political shit with people in real life but anytime anyone mentions poor people "spending all their money" and "not saving anything" I immediately bring up April 2020 and the fact that a single month of people staying home and not making frivolous purchases nearly collapsed the global Western economy.
Poor people literally can't save money or everything these people hold dear would come crashing down (which, sounds awesome but the fallout would be magically externalized to poor people like it always is).
Bit idea, being antivax about ozempic.
I will not take the jab. I will eat the turkey. I will live in the 4xl jeans.
They're going to ban Ozempic for purely capitalist reasons aren't they. I guess we're about to see who is more powerful, the pharma industry or the agriculture industry. The agriculture industry is going to have allies in the entire fast food industry as well here so I have to imagine they're going to be the winners
This would be really funny. I mean they let COVID spread rampantly for capitalist reasons so I don’t see why obesity curbs would be any different.
they'll do it as a moral panic type thing. play up the side effects and shame fat people for not being able to eat less.
Someone please explain what ozempic is. Are we going to cringe at it 10 years from now like all the other diet stuff in the past?
It's a hormone-like anti-diabetes drug that's gotten popular as an off-label weight loss drug due to advertising and celebrity endorsements. It's absurdly expensive and administered via injection.
These tricks will always be cringe because the science of weight loss already exists.
Weight control is all about calories, to lose weight you have to enter a calorie deficit (consume more than your intake) to gain weight you have to enter a calorie superavit (consume less than your intake). Your daily calorie baseline can be measure and it varies on current weight/activities/metabolism/etc... No drug will save you from that.
yes and no, something like a powerful appetite suppressant would make it much easier to adhere to calorie deficit
Committing to eating whole foods instead of trash helps adhering to a calorie deficit, too. All that fiber and protein fills you up a lot more than sugar.
Food deserts, junk food addiction, high calorie low fiber foods being cheap and easy to acquire compared to cooking your own meals, etc etc. if being thin and healthy was easy, there wouldn't be an obesity epidemic.
I don't get why people always get so defensive about this topic on hexbear. Literally no one called it easy, the people you're replying to simply said that the science is proven and that no drug is going to magically help you lose weight if you're eating more calories than you're burning
Those people miss the point
People don't eat out of some logical conclusion they reached that they need to eat a certain amount of calories
People eat because they're hungry, people eat too much because the food that is available to them and that is advertised to them isn't as filling (and a lot of the time due to bad habits that form, emotional eating, etc)
Someone being obese is not an issue of them knowing or not knowing that eating a surplus of calories is what increases weight, so this fact is irrelevant, everyone knows eating more makes you gain weight.
So, a drug that makes you eat less is something that magically helps you lose weights, because it solves something lower on the chain (being hungry), going even lower to the source would be eating better food, fixing bad habits and becoming healthier in other ways, but those are difficult non-magical solutions, taking a pill or an injection is much more of a magical solution.
Ozempic is the main reason Denmark isn't currently in a recession. it's made by Novo Nordisk, the biggest company in Denmark and also one of the biggest in Europe. It technically was developed as some type of diabetes medication and then was discovered to help people lose a LOT of weight very quickly.
Probably yeah. I am not super familiar but I think it’s just an appetite suppressant, big business bc obesity is a huge problem in amerikkka
It increases the risk of a few different types of cancer and may cause intestinal blockages.
My mom is diabetic (with a load of other issues) and it's the only medicine that helps her.
I don't know what Ozempic is but before that as someone who is not American I barely know what Thanksgiving is. Does it have a fixed date or is it one of those holidays that move around each year? Is there anything to it apart from eating turkey and mashed potatoes and fistfighting your uncle?
It’s the
thirdfourth Thursday of November every year. It’s an insanely fucked up holiday. The premise is that when the original English settlers got here, they didn’t know how to grow food or anything so a lot of them starved. Out of kindness the natives taught them how to grow the local crops, and when the pilgrims had their first successful harvest they invited the natives for a harvest feast to give thanks. Thus the first thanksgiving was a show of friendship and gratitude.Now thanksgiving is a holiday to supposedly celebrate being thankful, when a family comes together and shares a harvest feast, stuffing themselves like hogs on turkey, stuffing, mashed potatoes, yams etc. and drinking copious amounts of alcohol. Some watch American football all day. Others just spend time together.
Of course this lovely rosy glow is built on the back of millions of victims of Native American genocide, which this awful holiday conveniently papers over. Many Native Americans have a day of mourning on thanksgiving.
My family doesn’t celebrate it.
So fyi, the whole thing with the pilgrims and the native Americans was a myth tacked onto to the holiday at a later date. A "Day of Thanks" feast in autumn was a pretty common tradition in parts of England, and when English settlers came to New England they kept up the tradition. The feast between the pilgrims and the Wampanoag tribe did happen, but it wasn't really anything of note in the history of that community. The tribe had made an alliance with the Puritan community and they simply invited them to a feast they were having to celebrate their alliance. It was noted in their colony's history but wasn't considered a big deal until historians stumbled on the story later.
So you could just as easily call it a "harvest feast" or whatever and ignore all the stupid colonial shit tacked on. Personally I don't mind an excuse to chow down with my fam, but I get why other people find it stupid.
Yeah thanks for pointing that out. I was just about to correct my comment to point out that it’s bullshit, but my post is the elementary school lore.
We do have a harvest feast, we just do it on Saturday, to celebrate the arrival of our Christmas tree.
Ozempic is a medication for diabetes that helps control blood sugar and also has a moderate success at curbing appetites which overall helps people just not get as fucked by diabetes.
Sounds like a good thing that I will just guess is not affordable to the average American.
That's nice if it's a national holiday. Is it on a particular Thursday or do you fit it in whenever convenient during winter Thursdays?
It's the fourth Thursday in November. It's a national holiday with themes of gratitude that, in typical burgerland fashion, is also a celebration of genocidal settler colonizers.
Oh, that's this Thursday! Happy Thanksgiving to all the Americans! Even if it has problematic origins a national holiday that is always on a weekday is nothing to scoff at! May you defeat whatever uncles stand in your way.
lol, has this writer ever been to a 'Murican Thanksgiving? People are not eating because they feel hungry, they are eating because it's there. If anything I would guess the most common attitude is that the prescription would allow greater consumption, since it will be easier to deal with the Caloric excess down the road.
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