If you have any useful resource links please tag me in a comment with the link.

Examples of racism/euro-centrism during the Russia-Ukraine conflict

Please add to this if you can.

Links

Time/Map: https://time.is/Ukraine

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Ukraine/@49.1162725,31.7993839,7z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x40d1d9c154700e8f:0x1068488f64010!8m2!3d48.379433!4d31.1655799?hl=en

Leftist discussion threads:

https://hexbear.net/post/177324

https://old.reddit.com/r/GenZedong/comments/t03foy/genzedong_russiaukraine_master_discussion_thread/

https://lemmygrad.ml/

Twitter military updaters:

https://nitter.net/ASBMilitary

https://nitter.net/Militarylandnet

https://nitter.net/MihajlovicMike

https://nitter.net/KofmanMichael

https://nitter.net/TadeuszGiczan/status/1498673348183744518

Global South Perspective: https://nitter.net/kiranopal_/status/1498723206496145413

Better war/propaganda analysis:

https://www.understandingwar.org

https://www.moonofalabama.org/

News updates:

https://www.cgtn.com/special/UkraineCrisis.html

Live: https://www.cgtn.com/special/Live-update-Ukraine-Russia-border-crisis.html

YT/Video in Ukraine:

https://www.youtube.com/c/PatrickLancasterNewsToday/videos

https://www.youtube.com/c/RussellBentleyTe

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  • AntipastoAktion [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    I am consistently surprised at how bad libs are at noticing and peeking past the blatant contradictions involved in this war. Ukraine has supposedly killed almost 10,000 Russian troops and knocked out over a thousand vehicles, but is desperately begging for troops. Its airforce has apparently been unmatched in the air, but they're demanding either a no-fly zone or more planes. They have a supposed mystery ace pilot who can take out 6 planes in a single outing, but hasn't been seen since. The Russians have a 40 mile long convoy that's supposedly stuck outside Kyiv with no supplies so they can't move and the Ukranians supposedly have air superiority, but haven't damaged a single vehicle in the convoy.

    They're blatant contradictions that clearly point to Ukraine being in trouble, and yet every lib I know is able to hold both contradictory thoughts at once. This must have been what George Orwell sincerely meant by doublethink.

    • TheGhostOfTomJoad [he/him,they/them]
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      3 years ago

      Libs have been living with cognitive dissonance their whole lives just by supporting capitalism-its full of contradictions. These people are the masters of cognitive dissonance. This is not surprising at all.

      • AntipastoAktion [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        I think it's just that these contradictions are so blatant. Like capitalism is inherently contradictory, but usually with just enough cover you can kinda ignore it. This though is a whole new level.

    • penguin_von_doom [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      I think most libs know about the contradictions but more refuse to acknowledge them, cause it hurts the narrative. And also most people do hold some contradictory views themselves, that they are either unaware of, or refuse to confront and just accept the contradiction

      • PorkrollPosadist [he/him, they/them]
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        3 years ago

        I think most libs know about the contradictions but more refuse to acknowledge them, cause it hurts the narrative.

        When you believe that ideas are the driving force of history, and it looks like history is heading towards a dark place, you start lashing out at the idea of history taking a dark turn, rather than the material forces driving that turn.

    • Mardoniush [she/her]
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      3 years ago

      The things they believe are just true enough for them to ignore other evidence.

      Ukraine didn't immediately collapse as the Russians hoped. Some of their new anti-air has been effective. Russians currently have woeful road logistics, and are overreliant on taking railheads which Ukraine effectively destroyed.

      Doesn't change the fact that Ukrainian forces, with a larger army on the front lines and broadly similar equipment, are retreating on all fronts (Except Kiev, where they're throwing a counterattack against an entrenched Russian position rn with no effect.)

      Doesn't change the fact that within a few days the Russians will have encircled the majority of Ukrainian positions east of the Dnieper, cutting off half their army from the western equipment reinforcements.

      • AntipastoAktion [they/them]
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        3 years ago

        Go for it. I'm no savant, anyone should be able to make these connections.

        You'll likely get banned though, lol, but who hasn't at this point? I'm on my third.

    • FloridaBoi [he/him]
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      3 years ago

      Have you considered that orange man bad but stonk portfolio high?

  • anoncpc [comrade/them]
    ·
    3 years ago

    BREAKING: A Canadian nuclear expert has accused Ukraine of "misleading people" about the situation at the nuclear plant and commends other experts on twitter for speaking up.

    Not the only thing that they lie during this war

  • Nakoichi [they/them]
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    3 years ago

    I've talked a bit on here about my surprisingly based landlord and tonight as I was walking to my apartment I saw him in the parking lot so we smoked a cigarette and he asked me about Ukraine. I did my best to explain things going back to pre-2014 and US support for far right groups up until now, trying to give my best "Putin sucks absolutely and I don't trust the stated goal of denazification (though I support the idea fully) but here's how this is the US fault" etc. Putting together the most nuanced cliffs notes of the situation I could based on the discussions I've had on here and the takes I've heard from Ukrainian and Russian comrades.

    After about 15 minutes of just listening in relative silence, he goes "Thank you, you know I feel smarter having listened to you, and I hate to say this but, fuck the west".

    This man doesn't even swear often so it was extremely funny to me.

    :sicko-wholesome:

  • FidelCastro [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Good comment from @AcidSmiley in another post:

    if anybody wants additional sources, amnesty international already had reported in 2018 that the ukrainian government wasn't able to contain s14 and azov anymore since they were armed in 2014 to fight the seperatists in the east of the country. according to amnesty, the fascists regularly attacked roma encampments and the LGBTI scene, frequently without any legal repercussions. the number of hate crimes has increased continuously in recent years.

    here's a summary of the situation (in German) from 2019:

    https://www.amnesty.de/informieren/amnesty-journal/ukraine-regierung-hat-rechtsextreme-nicht-unter-kontrolle

    ukrainian fascists are also systematically recruiting German fascists for the war, reaching out to some of the worst neonazi groups in Germany like III. Weg. Here's a recent article about this (again in German): https://www.zeit.de/politik/deutschland/2022-03/rechtsextremismus-neonazis-rekrutierung-russland-ukraine-krieg/komplettansicht

    and a twitter thread from one of the authors, including screenshots from telegram chats were they talked with the organizers in ukraine: https://twitter.com/christianfuchs_/status/1499431993511227401

    Note that actual organic support for fascism isn't significant in Ukraine, with nazi parties not being able to gain any seats in the parliament in the last elections. that's a remarkable difference to almost any other european country.

    this isn't a movement of the ukrainian people, it is obviously propped up from outside, it has already become a significant threat for marginalized groups in ukraine and now with the war it poses the danger that fascists from all over the continent go there, receive combat training, gain experience in urban warfare and export terrorism back to the rest of europe.

  • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    CHINA: “After verifying with Kharkiv state academy of culture, Chinese Embassy in Ukraine told GT that 2 Chinese students reportedly named Jin Tianhao, Li Zhi do not exist, after foreign media reported 2 Chinese students were killed as Russian army attacked a university.”

  • anoncpc [comrade/them]
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    3 years ago

    U.S. official says no evidence Russians attacked nuclear reactors in Ukraine, 🇬🇧 Reuters reported citing 🇺🇸 MSNBC interview

  • FidelCastro [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    "NATO exists to manage the risks created by its existence."

    - Someone on twitter claimed that was a Chomsky quote, but all I can find is an attribution to a professor of European politics named Richard Sakwa. Still a good quote.

  • eXAt [he/him]
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    3 years ago

    Apparently the Canadian Government is encouraging people to volunteer. The globe and mail posted a fawning article of a person STILL IN HIGH SCHOOL going to volunteer. All the comments were people encouraging this 'bravery'. How as an adult could you possibly support this? The Canadian mind is truly perverse.

  • pocket_tofu [she/her,fae/faer]
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    3 years ago

    Tara Reade's podcast has been removed from Spotify along with other pods associated with RT

    https://twitter.com/ReadeAlexandra/status/1499531110274846724?t=dTcnYSKSK2LOTso81tHjEQ&s=19

  • MelaniaTrump [undecided]
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    3 years ago

    If China tries to help Russia evade sanctions in the wake of Moscow’s invasion of Ukraine, it will face countermeasures, a senior US State Department official said on Thursday, without providing details.

    lol, the US still thinks it runs the world

  • viva_la_juche [they/them, any]
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    3 years ago

    If it hasn’t happened already I expect well have wapo publishing an article titled something like “Opinion: Why nuclear war wouldn’t be as bad as you think.” By the end of the month