yes, it's real.
He said queers are so lefty now that gay men are considered "cis". His writers are so shit no one bothered googling a fucking word and just spewed hate for the entire segment.
So fucked man, his entire show is just "I'm old, the kids are weird", who is he even pandering to at this point?
Genx who are young enough to sort of know what the kids are into it and barely use the PCs/internet because their PMC job demanded it back in 2000 but are old enough to wish for the mythical golden age of 1985 to return when gay = AIDS and women knew their place was in the kitchen?
You can tell how old an incel or MRA is by if they use Brad Pitt or George Clooney, or if they use Chris Evans, Chris Hemsworth, or Henry Caville, as the only kind of man women want.
Basically anyone who's a reactionary but not mask off enough for Fox News.
be LGBTbe oppressed for most of history>become *slightly* more accepted and represented, but not really enough>come out of closet>you start to show up in statistics more:smurf-cursed: this means they're replacing us
Technically speaking it is true,
future generations will replace us.But the utopia that Maher promises is just utopian thinking.
im just talking about how cishets like maher think they're being "replaced" by LGBT people who have always existed because they confuse statistical representation and capitalist commodification of marginalized identity for reality. They do the same thing for ethnic and religious minorities too.
Children of Men but no babies because everyone is gay. :sicko-wholesome:
It's true, just like this completely real chart of left-handedness. The sinister agenda is taking over!
I think the bars don't represent total population, but the generation born at that time. So the 40% in 2020 is a (stupid) extrapolation about the generation after Gen Z, which there's no data on because that generation is a bunch of whiny babies (literally).
Its like that time Fox News turned a bar graph upside down. That was how they remedied the problem of having to cite a real source. It's all a huge heap of bullshit.
It might as well be true, as we've learned our perception of reality trumps reality...
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Bill this shit is how you confirm every single fucking fear that fascists have and create violent reactionaries. You fuckhead.
Yeah and now that he started he can never stop or he’ll be torn asunder by a swarm of rabid werewolves in red hats.
Looking forward to the day he stops and is torn asunder by a swarm of rabid werewolves in red hats
I wish Maher a very pleasant fall down the stairs soon, please. Absolutely reprehensible piece of shit whose ongoing popularity shows how thin and performative a lot of liberal support for minorities is.
If Bill fucking Maher ever comes to a good conclusion, it's for the wrong reasons
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Setting aside his obviously BS stats... when I started high school in the late 90s, no one in my class of ~400 identified as LGBTQA. By the time I graduated, maybe 2 guys were openly gay and I know one girl who said she was bi. So like 3 out of 400. That was just 20 years ago. We know that way more than 3:400 are LGBTQA. People aren't fundamentally different, but the nature of identification, information on LGBTQA, and openness to being different is just so far ahead of where we were as a society not long ago. Of course any curve starting off with a base near zero is gonna look like a rocket taking off.
This tracks with my experience, but quite a few years earlier. Not a soul in our class identified as anything other than 100% straight. Decades later, a bunch of them have had egg cracking moments in their 30's and 40's.
Remind me some day to talk about our "self-removed music teacher", who was probably one of the kindest men I've had the honour of studying under.
It's a word that rhymes with "maggot".
It wasn't removed by any bot or mod, I did it voluntarily because I'm not a weenie, and I know that sort of language can make people hurt.
Ooooooooh self-removed, I thought that only the part after the hyphen was removed lmao. Made it really confusing trying to think of what slur could possibly fit there.
My bad
All good, sister. :penguin-love:
I'm in a constant struggle between CHUD Thordros who existed in the past, and Decent Human Thordros who's trying to be at least okay in the present.
I'm pretty sure the good guy is comin' out on top, though. :Care-Comrade:
when I started high school in the late 90s, no one in my class of ~400 identified as LGBTQA. By the time I graduated, maybe 2 guys were openly gay and I know one girl who said she was bi. So like 3 out of 400. That was just 20 years ago.
Almost the exact same thing at my school too. Eerie.
This graph makes no sense. Why does it stop at 100% instead of following the trend to 164.4%? The trend has to continue, so some people will just become double-gay.
we gotta pump those numbers up. fluid people can probably reach triple or quadruple gay.
I knew "straight" men who would start to hit on me after a few beers once they found out I was bi. The whole dog and ponyshow is a bunch of performative bullshit. After that happened more than once I started to realize how many dudes weren't really "in the closet" but the gender-as-a-spectrum argument started to hold a lot more water.
I always thought it was 6-10%.
As one of my high school teachers would say to the class, "Three of you are gay, that's just the way it is".
how many cis-hets are some kind of demi or agender or a little bit bi and just never think about it? never have to think about it?🤔
If you called a man at birth and aren't disphoric about it, there's pretty compelling reasons to never even think about questioning it. Same is true if you're mainly attracted to the opposite sex, just never really question the outliers, not worth the hassle.
Or if you think a famous person is hot who is not the opposite, but not actually CARE about that fact, as you probably will never meet them, or attraction to someone who is non-binary.
I think as more non-traditional hot people gain greater visibility, the masses will also move along the kinsey scale.
I don't think I know how feelings for non-binary people goes. Like, if someone looks traditionally feminine and I find them attractive but they don't identify as a woman I don't really see that as not being straight.
Yeah it’s kind of the flip side of how straight guys will get fragile about being “gay” because they’re attracted to a trans woman. Their initial attraction is to the correct gender and then they put the wrong label on it because of whatever insecurities they have. Being attracted to an enby who identifies more masculine, but having that attraction be to perceived femininity is the opposite. Wrong gender, correct label.
And also gender is more complicated than a single spectrum. The more I dig the more gender seems like a series of islands with convoluted trade agreements.
Yeah that's a good point. Like there's a whole range of combination of non-binary identifications and presentations and sex traits I might find individually attractive(like a trans masc person with discernable breasts. I might like their chest but not be attracted to them) on a sliding scale, but it's ultimately body types that would be considered female and more feminine gender identities I consider attractive, so if I dated someone non-binary but trans fem with a feminine body type I'd probably just count that as spicy straight. IDK for sure though burn thag bridge if and when I get to it.
Yeah I think the point the important thing is you’re both on the same page about both the gendered attraction and the label. And ideally that’s something you can just kinda discuss and work out. I find that just knowing how someone identifies changes how I perceive them and am potentially attracted to them. But I also only experienced sexual attraction once before transitioning, so the whole attraction to individual body parts thing is a little foreign to me and a lot of this is more about romantic attraction. So idk
But they aren’t a woman. But they are hot. So what are the features that are hot?
Then there is also the “I’d fuck X but would not romance/ltr that gender.”
Basically it’s a messy spectrum and always has been but awareness is increasing.
Same is true if you’re mainly attracted to the opposite sex, just never really question the outliers
IME, this is incredibly true. Most of the people I had crushes on when I was young were girls, but then I'd be reading a book and there'd be a very erotic scene between two men and I'd be very intrigued and then the next day at school I'd be daydreaming about some girl, and to me this just felt like normal straight boy before. A decade+ later it's obvious to me that primarily attracted to the opposite sex is in fact different from only attracted to the opposite sex. If I were a youth today would I recognize that already? I think maybe, some of it is introspection but a lot is a increased level of dialogue and understanding about these topics.
right, we're not primed to examine ourselves like that and if you fit in there's no pressure to do so either. Doesn't mean I experienced gender before I realized that I don't experience gender. So I wonder about other peoples' unexamined internal being.
I've always kinda occupied a space between genders or at least blurred the line in several ways, and I've been forced by peers to think about it. I don't identify as LGBT or think of myself as queer though; I feel like there are people who need and fit that term far more than I do.
Is demisexuality really in the same category as the rest? I thought it was either a style/mode of attraction, or something like being an "empath" where most people have it to some extent.
i was referring to demigender, but I figure demisexuality would be like the rest of the ace spectrum where a bunch of people are but never have the introspection or vocabulary, and could comfortably live their entire life fitting in well enough to avoid external pressure on their identity.
Interestingly, my attraction to women was very different from how my guy friends described theirs, so I thought I was demisexual for a while.
Only after coming out as a trans lesbian do I now realize I was never demi lol
uh I dunno people have little a
salamigender, as a treat.There's no Académie Française for gender labels so there's gonna be overlap from people who feel gender consistently but mildly, gender fluid who move between none and some, and some other folks i'm forgetting about.
I personally do not experience sexual attraction at all until I know someone very well and have a pretty intense bond with them. I didn’t experience sexual attraction until I was about 23 and was really freaked out when it happened.
I think asexuality is pretty firmly under the umbrella of “queer” for me, and the dual attraction model helped me understand my sexuality for the first time in my life well after most people have had their sexual awakening. But I’m not sure how long that language has existed in its modern form. Not long, I don’t think. So the shared history is thinner.
A ton. The amount of times I’ve explained asexuality and had it met with, “I guess I’m a little asexual” is surprisingly high. That’s not even counting the people who are like, “well everyone’s like that”
I definitely would’ve considered myself cis indefinitely if not for the intense boost in trans visibility over the past couple decades
