Other than San Francisco, where can a weirdo or non-model-citizen live in relative safety?
If you have the funds to move I would suggest trying to get out of the U.S. it's only going to get worse from here on out imo.
I've considered Vietnam or maybe Mexico. My friend was recently telling me you can get condos near Cabo for 80k.
Both seem like solid inexpensive choices (relative to the US). Although I’ve also considered Mexico, but I’m not sure it’s if you want to escape the ills of capitalism and rising tide of fascism. I mean it’s hard to escape anywhere, but Mexico seems to be leaning in to neoliberalism while also continuing to being exploited by wealthier countries.
This is something I’ve been thinking about a lot and I don’t have a good answer
Inside a large city most anywhere in the US is roughly the same, but the chuds drive an hour to terrorize you regardless. Anywhere is much safer if you're white/straight/cis passing tho
I'd say pick a state whose politics are dominated by a big expensive progressive city like NYC, Minneapolis, Seattle, or San Fran, then find a smaller city in the same state, possibly a college town (of course not living near the actual campus where rent is fucked). That way you have some protection from day to day bigotry, because you live in a city and a college town, and you have some protection from organized state-enforced bigotry, because the state's politics have to answer to the larger city.
I don’t want to promise too much but I think Philly is a pretty cool place. We’re a swing state and we have an actual fascist running for governor this fall but cost of living is relatively low but Philly is overall very cool. Chased the proud boys out of town multiple times and i feel like the overall vibe is good. Humidity sucks though
I don’t know If this is a stereotypical thing to say about a city but Philly is a city of neighborhoods and a lot of them can make you feel at home.
Im an introvert and haven’t done much in the way of organizing (I’m also lazy) but If you make the move feel free to message me
Basically that's what I wanted to imply with my "other than San Francisco" line. I am broke as hell but I could do with a place that is relatively safe for the time being, as I do my best to save what I can to eventually leave, or at least live under the radar from the hogs.
Philadelphia, because there, they'll kick the teeth out of fascists if they try anything.
It's true. People in Philly are fighty. Plus you can have a gigantic man-eating senator if Fetterman beats the crank tv doctor.
I saw gritty beat a man to death with a hockey stick in broad daylight and people cheered him on the whole time.
It pains me to admit this but Minneapolis is relatively "Safe" right now. Big queer community, good antifa representation. The ridiculous and toxic passive aggressive culture of white Minnesotan's actually works in your favor because they'll just quietly shun you and never do anything directly confrontational. Good biking city, good food, plenty of culture for a smallish city.
Racism is pretty bad. Has some of the worst ethnic disparities in education. Cops are so racist that people burned down a cop station in protest. But I don't know that that makes it any worse than a lot of places in the US.
Good biking city,
Honest question: I keep hearing how Minnesotan winters are harsh and long... Do you keep biking through winter?
Some people do. There's a big culture of expensive fat bikes with enormous tires that can power through just about everything. Some people who bike commute all year long have heated handlebars and other gadgets to make biking when it's 0 degrees feasible. The streets are ice free probably 8-10 months of the year, though. January and February are the really bad months for cold and ice.
in chicago my biker friends do. they clear the snow from the streets
Knew a few people in upstate NY that biked to work year round, it was impressive
Honestly maybe consider leaving the US, if you can. Maybe get a job teaching English in China or Japan if you've got a college degree. I'm planning on going back to the Old Country myself as soon as I can get my citizenship issues sorted.
i'm somehow having trouble imagining japan of all places being more welcoming to (as op put it) "undesirables"
I dunno, my cousin lives there and I've visited a few times. It's definitely a reactionary country on the whole but it still felt safer. Like I saw a gay couple walking down the street hand-in-hand in a midsize town in broad daylight, which is not something I could ever think of doing in the bumfuck US exurb I live in.
Except when it's night time where literally all social rules change completely.
Also Japan is an incredibly conformist society. Think 1950s america.
I have friends who couldn’t even live together there before being married or else they would be shunned/looked down on by people. It’s a fucked up place.
Probably won't be legal in the US for much longer either.
What is legal/acceptable in the US is a pretty low bar for "undesirables"
Wasn’t there a thing recently where they might be about to pass legislation for civil unions soon
I've got an associates from a shutdown profit mill, but often consider going back to school for a bachelors just to do the teaching thing. I wonder how long that will be a viable option.
My cousin did the whole, "go for the teaching gig, stay for getting married" thing. Now even if he stops teaching they can't kick him out.
Major cities like LA, SF, San Diego, Seattle. NYC, Chicago, maybe Philadelphia. Stay away from the South, and California is a generally safe haven/least sociopathic state from the rest of the US.
The south has exceptions, like Knoxville, Carboro, Asheville, Greenville, Boone. Basically anywhere that's metropolitan or near the highway/parks.
Chicago is good because it's also relatively cheap. If you can get roommates you can find spots that end up being 600 a person a month. Even some 1 bed apartments are like 1200 dollars a month which Is pretty damn cheap
I don't live there actually, but I almost got a job there and a bunch of my friends live there. Still sad I don't live there, love that city
multicolor haired people who are nominally gay?
The fuck does this mean?
You got a fucking yard stick to measure how gay someone is?
By nominally gay I basically mean a cis person whose sexuality hasn't had significant consequences on their material conditions. Perhaps nominally wasn't the right word to use.
"Societally privileged gay people" or something like that would be better. "Nominal" in common usage means "in name only".
Using words incorrectly is a good way to learn their proper usage as long as you're not a stubborn ass when corrected. I do it all the time!
A little sense of humor goes a long way. I usually just mispronounce words
In a heteronormative society being anything except cis-straight will affect your material conditions. That includes cis gay people, even the ones who are still closeted and trying to pass as straight. For fuck's sake I know the world is getting more reactionary, but could we not retread half baked discourse from fucking 2002 please?
I'm gay and I don't think a cis white person whose sexuality is an understated part of their public identity faces the same repression as a trans/black person who has to cross the street every damn day. I'don't mean to say fuck cis gay people and their experiences don't matter.
Do you want to admit you made a caustic, reactionary comment or do you want to keep digging this hole?
I didn’t use proper wording but I’ve made clarifications to my comment, I’m not interested in your pearl clutching.
Clutch these pearls
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Nominally in common usage means "in name only", which excludes people who are identify as gay alongside presenting in a non-heteronormative manner. It's not the right term and there are some laborious mental gymnastics being made ITT to justify a poor choice of words
nominally gay
What is meant by this, cause it's hard for me to read it as anything other than "just pretending to be gay for appearances" which is uh
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Your point? I seriously have no idea what you mean.
You made a bad comment. I gently pointed that out to you. Your comment remains bad. You could think about editing it for clarity. Or not. Maybe you want to argue.
Except it is true. And the posts are still there. I can pull it up if you want.
Ok good because you're cool and I'd expect you to take these grievances seriously, were you able to read my comment with the links? It's genuinely fucking offensive all of these posts are being removed for being 'misinformation'.
Yeah and I think it's misrepresenting what happened, after following the mod log entries and reading the context for removed comments
So can you explain how it’s misrepresenting what happened? Also explain how all of my comments are being removed using questionable reasoning such as ‘misinformation’ and ‘inapporpriate’ for asking if you removed my comments.
You're ignoring the context of what led to purr's banned and general hostility as a user ("being annoying" isn't the same)
I'm not a mod here, so I can't weigh in on why you're comments are getting removed
Seattle is generally tolerant of white techbro flavors of weirdness but can get pretty hostile to people who deviate in other ways.
or dosed
Can happen anywhere. One time I got given a bong hit that was mostly salvia.
Took me over 10 years to finally try psychedelics afterward.
Do shrooms with friends folks, just dive on in as long as you know what you're getting into and the environment is safe.
