look I don't have enough wifi to look up electoral results and french people won't talk to me, but some of the meals I've had in alpine refuges this week have been the best meals I may have ever had

I am also so wine-drunk and so exhausted from being the fastest hiker I have encountered on the TMB. These may influence my opinions

    • MeowZedong@lemmygrad.ml
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      3 days ago

      I have yet to find German food that fits my tastes, but I guess I'll give it another shot. Gotta say Thai, Indian, and Mexican are probably my favorites. And sushi. I could eat only sushi for the rest of my life and be happy with it.

      • radiofreeval [any]
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        2 days ago

        Skyr and Plokkfiskur are both good. It doesn't have many move redeemable dishes though.

        • Dolores [love/loves]
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          2 days ago

          we can't expect much from a people that didn't figure out how to put their parliament indoors until the 1940s

      • radiofreeval [any]
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        2 days ago

        Fish and chips and meat pies can be pretty good. I'm also a fan of Earl Grey and scones.

      • ProfessorOwl_PhD [any]
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        2 days ago

        Cornish pasties, fish and chips (especially in goth paradise Whitby), various stews, shepherds/cottage pie, pork pies, and rarebit all immediately come to mind. Then there's your desserts - apple pie, bakewell tart, rhubarb and gooseberry fools, victoria sponge cake, loads of stuff that tastes great if made properly.

        Only problem is most british can't cook.

      • TreadOnMe [none/use name]
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        edit-2
        2 days ago

        I really like well prepared cabbage. They absolutely get bland after a couple of days, but even just with salt, if it's fresh it's good.

        Death to Terf Island of course.

  • Tankiedesantski [he/him]
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    2 days ago

    French people have good food.

    Hard disagree.

    The French are not people.

    Their food is pretty good though.

  • Thordros [he/him, comrade/them]
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    3 days ago

    French cuisine is a very complicated way of chugging a whole carton of heavy cream. Sure, it tastes pretty good, but: why?

  • Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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    3 days ago

    Out of like classic western foods it’s pretty good, lots of focus on fresh bread, wine, and cream. Personally I think it’s pretty overrated but I think a lot of westerners with underdeveloped palates are happy to land on the sort of rich and creamy bases that a lot of French food has. I do think that it really has created a concept of high-class dining that seems to preclude the use of animal product (I love cooking and it wasn’t until I start cooking more Indian and Asian food that I realized that a lot of my ideas of incorporating meat and animal product into my diet was simply due to this).

    • Robert_Kennedy_Jr [xe/xem, xey/xem]
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      edit-2
      2 days ago

      I encountered some dipshit on social media years ago that claimed he could never stop eating animals or their products because they were required for authentic france-cool cuisine.

      • Omegamint [comrade/them, doe/deer]
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        2 days ago

        Yeah really I think it’s not good that this cuisine that’s so meat/diary focused is elevated to this status of being sort of revered. Like conceptually I think French food is all about taking these base flavors that were available in the west and figuring out how to dial them up to a 10, and you can still keep that spirit, but the sort of reverence for how is it has to be done “right” keeps people from experimenting.

        And yeah people also just suck. I did a French night at my house with my roommates and decided to do ratatouille in the style of the movie and I had one friend just fucking hate it and shit on it. And then he said he hated French food and I told him I could’ve easily just done meat in a wine sauce and you’d love it but you’re not even giving this a fair chance. Like try not to be pissy because we didn’t have some stereotypical meat centerpiece

        • Robert_Kennedy_Jr [xe/xem, xey/xem]
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          2 days ago

          I've noticed people who throw around "traditional" a lot when talking about recipes are just really obstinate about the notion of trying something different.

  • ButtBidet [he/him]
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    3 days ago

    I could be wrong, but the French people I've met have been the most resistant to going vegan than any race I've even met. It's like all the pigeon and frog and goose they're eating causes them to be unable to eat tofu.

    • Angel [any]
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      3 days ago

      Reminds me of this [cw: mention of f*sting]

      Show

    • LeylaLove [she/her, love/loves]
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      2 days ago

      There's fucking Ortolan that is so shameful it's traditional to put the napkin over your head to hide what the fuck you're actually doing

    • lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml
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      2 days ago

      Can confirm, vegans are an ultra minority here.

      One explanation that I find interesting is that all the people who have the right mindset to go vegan in the US do find animal products that are produced by actual farmers in France. In the US that's impossible from what I know. So basically if you hate cruelty you can buy chicken at the local farmer so you know they had an ok life before slaughter.

      I know that veganism has a definition of animal rights that go beyond "ethical farming" but veganism is also least present in the countries where people are actually confronted with animal death for consumption at an early age. The state of the USian food industry makes it so much more obvious to just cut animal products because they're all produced so horribly

      • Ossay [he/him]
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        2 days ago

        Americans worship the constitution, europeans worship their local cuisine. it's dumb but everytime i talk about veganism to someone here they act like i'm talking about bombing their hometown shrug-outta-hecks

        • lil_tank@lemmygrad.ml
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          2 days ago

          everytime i talk about veganism to someone here they act like i’m talking about bombing their hometown

          Yeah that's pretty insane. And, tbh, I have my personal philosophical disagreements with anti-speciest morality, but politically, big support to vegans against reactionary carnists and for trying to save humanity from climate disaster

  • Skeleton_Erisma [they/them, any]
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    3 days ago

    tbf outside of cajun or indigenous meals - most american food is ass and the quality of ingredients is even worse.

  • Diuretic_Materialism [he/him]
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    3 days ago

    Italian food is 10x better.

    Honestly in terms of everything I'd argue Italy is better than France. Prettier country, better food, better wine, more interesting history and culture. Idk why people jerk off France so much when Italy is right there, I'd travel to Italy over France any day.

    • Saeculum [he/him, comrade/them]
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      3 days ago

      I've never felt fear for my life like I have when driving in Italy, whereas France is only occasionally a little scary, so that's one thing.

      Saying Italy is prettier is something I would contest as well, they both have stunning sections of the Alps and rolling Mediterranean countryside, it's not easy to tell where Italy starts and France ends without the signposts.

      Italian food I think is a little nicer, but it's a close contest and French Vs Italian wine I would say goes the other way.

      • Gosplan14_the_Third [none/use name]
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        2 days ago

        I've never felt fear for my life like I have when driving in Italy

        It's rough, yes, but you get used to it. The death rate by traffic accident is actually quite similar to France's (and that also means half that of the USA - even though I just saw you're from TERF-Island lol).

    • SuperZutsuki [they/them, any]
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      3 days ago

      Italy is the first Euro country I'm going to when I get the chance. I will walk around Napoli for days and eat until I fucking explode.

    • 2Password2Remember [he/him]
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      2 days ago

      largely correct but the bread in france is better than in italy imo. overall italy kicks france's ass though

      Death to America

  • Owl [he/him]
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    3 days ago

    It really is amazing how much they managed to accomplish with flour, milk, and the occasional egg.

    It makes me wonder what could be accomplished if chefs spent 300 years making the fanciest food possible out of, like, some seed or nut or tuber.

  • Gorillatactics [none/use name]
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    2 days ago

    France tried making a metric system for food quality. This made french cuisine synonymous with quality and paved the way for an inevitable backlash.

    What is the TMB?

  • 2Password2Remember [he/him]
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    2 days ago

    how can thwre be a struggle about this, french food is delicious, especially the pastries and bread. i'm no francophile but this feels like a one-sided argument

    Death to America

    • emizeko [they/them]
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      edit-2
      2 days ago

      found out the other day that baguette means "wand/rod/stick" in fr*nch

  • GaveUp [she/her]
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    edit-2
    3 days ago

    French food slaps. Shame it's overly pretentious a lot of times

    Italian food is the most overrated shit ever. America needs to convert all its Italian restaurants into French ones tbh

  • Infamousblt [any]
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    3 days ago

    It's not hard to have good food when your definition of good is "I have covered this thing in a butter sauce"