I'm mainly concerned with this recent development on the shark instance between friend of the show and soulist, mindtraveller and hexbear-hater linkopenschest realizing why an instance that is anti-tankie will eventually purge all serious leftists.
realizing why an instance that is anti-tankie will eventually purge all serious leftists.
Anti-"tankie" rhetoric is just salami tactics in action, and so many dupes go along with it not realizing they're the next bit to be sliced off.
I have never heard the term salami tactics before but I absolutely love it.
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
don't watch the youtube clip the internet archive version is better
A myth in the sense you can't actually boil a frog alive by slowly upping the water temp? I never thought it was meant to be taken literally like that lol
Lol, yeah apparently there's quite a few believers. Glenn Beck did a demonstration on his foxnews show way back in the day and iirc the frog jumped out and he never acknowledged it.
A "w-well i can't just ban politics uwu" Da
but yeah, this is exactly why i'm here. once the admin took an active role in shit-talking* hexbear instead of, y'know, doing their job, i figured i've probably been lied to a lot about the nature of this instance.
i'd like to take this opportunity to thank everyone, for fostering a community where it's easy to breathe.
*well tbf they had to lock yet another thread when it became clear their nothingburger responses wouldn't be enough.
The lies about this instance being some right wing plot where everyone is just pretending to be leftist and so committed that we're indistinguishable from actual leftists are the funniest part of hexbear lore.
Accusations of being secretly right wing authoritarians really feels like
coming from the people that are taking "soulists" seriouslyEh, I don't think they are necessarily intentionally right-wingers, just huge subscribers to lost-in-the-sauce-ism, ya know?
There's no coherence, it's all vibes. If you ask me, the vibes are very much not okay over there
I agree, also yes the vibes are fucked, I can't even enjoy gawking at these people
Sorry for necroposting, but I just connected the dots in my head that it's remarkably like how people treat anything observed in the DPRK as a Potemkin village. Everything is a conspiracy, you can't trust your eyes, all counter-evidence is an elaborate ploy.
When liberals dislike something about reality they very often invent cartoon explanations for it so they don't have to adjust their worldview instead of using intellectual curiosity to investigate and adjust.
*click link*
"Huh. This looks really, really, online. I don't think I'm going to pay attention to this."
*close tab without scrolling down*
Ada is absolutely hostile to leftists she refused to say if she would ban fascists
“dronerights was banned from blåhaj but wants to come back as mindtraveler to continue wrecking the instance, that ok?”
“a 5 subscriber vaguely leftist comm is getting harassed by these dronerights alts being allowed to ban evade, can something be done about this?”
I think dronerights is grail and mindtraveler is a separate (albeit also annoying) person
ziq strategy, if there isn’t enough desired engagement create alts to have conversations with
I won't deny the possibility (they could both be ziq actually) but to me mindtraveller has a much more standard aggro debatebro style
oh fuck it would be so funny/tragic if it were ziq like i'm fairly new to lemmy but i know about ziq from raddle
you don't understand those 5 people could have been the difference between Biden winning or losing. Look at my harassment comm that Ada believes isn't one - - mind attacking comm last month for being transphobic because pointing out Biden flaws
Hate to break it to you guys but if you go off doing weird anti-reality stuff you just end up at fascism. It's like falling into a black hole. It doesn't particularly matter which direction you go because all directions lead to fascism.
also wtf is soulism and why is there an asshole trying to get me to capitalise their pronouns like they’re my fucking dom? and how do they have any claim to be an anarchist acting like that? you is not a gendered pronoun. i don’t capitalise my own name, i’m not about to start. i’m sorry. not happening.
also wtf is soulism
Hyper-idealism, it asserts that reality is only perception and therefore perception is reality, therefore transhumanism should be pursued so that everyone can live in their own utopia.
It's very made-up, I'm fairly certain most Soulists are just wreckers.
eye roll at soulism, not u can't u just believe urself into being transhuman in that case? no need to act at all it sounds like a self defeating ideology at its core
Today I found out what "soulism" is. What cursed horseshit. Not surprised at all that the soulists have unparsable server drama.
Having never been exposed to this until this thread I'm confident in saying that soulism is the most deeply unserious ideology.
It gets worse, MindTraveller insists that Marx wasn't a Materialist, but a Determinist, and therefore Materialism is anti-science.
Fairly certain they are a wrecker.
>shark.fascism.zone going down in flames
>the same week, the hexbear trans mega has just hit 3100 comments
stay losing, shark instance.oh hi (i made that post and then left. surprised i haven't been banned yet)
Anyone wanting to refed with blahaj should self crit
I felt like we should at one point under specific conditions but yeah Ada refused to answer whether she'd ban fascists so I think we should go demolition mode so she doesn't get the chance to hurt any queer people
tbh i think we'd be better off going in and gently directing people here (perhaps through DMs) on alts while maintaining a strict public stance of "fuck any instance that's not safe for trans people"
the ones we pull in will appreciate the safety and the lack of active drama i think, whereas refeding even temporarily guarantees stormy seas
just imo, though admittedly i haven't given it as much thought as you probably have at this point
Daily reminder Droneright's original account was PM_ME_FAT_ENBIES.
I gotta say I truly hate this redditism. No harsh to PM_ME_YOUR_FOCAULTS but damn.
Thank fuck, honestly
the annoying leddit circlejerk of "username checks out" "thanks for your kind insight, GROTESQUE_MISOGYNIST_BULLSHIT" or whatever is the worst. Redditbrain must die.ironically, Shark Instance is full of this kinda shit anyway.
It seems like most lemmy instances that aren't the big three (bear, grad, ml) are moderately to severely redditbrained tbh. The eyerolling marvel-esque insincerity is hateful.
what a coincidence that it is those three that also get the most flak
Thats because these three instances had time to develop an existence beyond reddit for years. Even with the massive liberal presense that exists now on .ml its still less reddit brained then the new "general" instances who are explicitly trying to be reddit and will likely never grow beyond it.
Has anyone ever sent you a PM with a unique picture of Foucault?
https://youtu.be/fkL4MrNFQ0o
From @ElGosso@hexbear.net
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:
It’s really disheartening to see the handful of well-meaning and not Soulist people scattered in this thread wanting better communities and unable to have them. I wish I could reel them in here lol.
Ah well.
Soulism is apparently “anarcho-antirealityism”, taking the idea of perception and consciousness not being fully objective, and expanding that to the idea of saying the idea of an objective shared reality isn’t real. It’s a hierarchy, of some people forcing their views on others normatively! So then obviously, this needs to be abolished by having everyone person their own true rules and perception of their “private” reality.
Aka it’s big solipsism ego-based stuff weaponizing leftist and inclusive rhetoric. A joke of an ideology.
ty i literally hadn’t heard of it before and im not exactly new to leftism. tho from what ive seen it doesnt seem to be leftist at all.
I learned today too lol. I’ve been exploring the secret and forbidden lore.
If studying leftist tendencies is like being a mycologist, then soulism is like being baffled by a new species of mold discovered under some guy's couch.
Also uh, regarding the pronoun thing, They made a post in the thread answering that question lol.
https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/9762716
It is an interesting square to circle being both a goddess and an anarchist.
this was pointed out, yes, which MindTraveller then, without missing a beat, branded transphobia.
at the risk of sounding a lil too invested, i super can't be sure MT & Grail aren't the same person.
Would explain why grail only popped up there after minds rants to ads
They're even doing the whole narcissism bit. Also lots of medium posts. Looks like they struck gold on who to fuck with though, lots of interaction
i attempted to read a medium post by grail on "anarcho-narcissism" and literally couldn't finish it. was obliged to swear and close my laptop.
Just a transphobic troll that stuck around for a couple weeks a long time ago. They were somewhat clever and tried their best to skirt the rules repeatedly and stay in a gray area. Despite this, they did enough racist and transphobic shit that we banned them
that doesnt really answer my questions tbh. not that i think there is a legitimate way to justify it. i dont have a problem with the goddess gender part. im not gonna tell anyone they arent their gender. but the pronoun thing goes way beyond gender and is literally just trying to impose hierarchy
love how i was gonna post an autistic wall of text about why it bothers me, but here you are, once again, to ground my silly ass
ah u know i wouldn't have said shit about any of it if not for u
Is soulism just anti natalism with extra steps because that's what it feels like
soulism sounds like self aware Hyper-liberalism to me. "Rejection of the tyranny of reality" I don't think its inherently anti-natalist. It isn't inherently anything but it is diametrically opposed to materialism.
Someone told me this is a cheese strat but honestly at this point I'll take what I can get.
I thought it was the Elden Ring of egoism, because they definitely need to touch grace
I fucking hate how much drama mind traveler brought up just to harass a single leftist instance. Then once one of those mods left because of the harassment they close their harrasing comm after doing victory lap.
Then Ada just removes or locks any thread bringing it up. What a wonderful show of admin leadership there
"I AM A GOLDEN GOD" vibes
