Western media have finally change course. They are now admitting that the much promoted Ukrainian counter-offensive has failed. In fact, the acknowledge that it never had a chance to win in the first place.
The Hill, the Washington Post and CNN now agree that the Ukrainian army will never achieve its aims.
western MSM has a rare encounter with reality!
That makes it difficult for the Biden administration to get Congress approval for $24 billion in additional 'aid' to Ukraine. It does not make sense to pay for a cause that is evidently lost.
b seems overly hopeful regarding the rationality of US congress, but i think hes right- why would we throw more money at them, US politicians have made it clear they do not support bringing Ukraine into NATO if they do not win this conflict. of course, US politicians are prone to lying and misleading
Nothing has come from the 'peace conference' which Saudi Arabia arranged on Ukraine's behalf
lol. lmao even. props to big dog MBS for trying
Despite the onslaught of bad news the Ukrainian army is still trying to take Russian positions in the south and east of Ukraine. But it simply does not have enough in men and material to break through the lines.
Even if they would manage to get a local breakthrough there are not enough reserves to push for the necessary follow up. Just one of the NATO trained brigades has still been held back. All others have been mauled in their various deployment zones.
nothing has changed it seems
In the northeast around Kupyansk the Russians have started their own offensive which has the Ukrainians on the run. Ukraine has ordered the evacuation of the area
But Kupyansk is a Russian city and people refuse to leave.
show this to the libs claiming Russians are committing genocide in the regions they capture. curious that these civilians are content with Russian occupation when you believe what western media claims
The Russian campaign is slowly speeding up. As the Ukrainian Strana.news reports (machine translation):
Also in Ukraine, it is recorded that from Kupyansk to Bakhmut, Russia has increased the number of attacks.
"Over the past month, the total number of attacks in the Kupyansk, Limansky and Bakhmut directions has grown significantly. In July, during the week there were 6-6.5 thousand attacks, during the last week-9 thousand attacks, " - said the representative of the National Guard Ruslan Muzychuk.
According to him, the Russian Federation does not experience "shell hunger".
Aviation is also actively used, and over the past few weeks, more than 50 air attacks have been taking place every day, and sometimes more than 80.
That is bad news for the Ukrainian side which lacks the reserves to counter the Russian onslaught. There are also less weapons coming in from the West. F-16 fighter jets will be delayed for another nine months due to training issues. Tanks and other material are in short supply.
these supply issues sure bode well for the west’s performance in WW3 
Strana also report of an interview with a knowledgeable Ukrainian soldier (machine translation):
Continuing the topic of the situation at the front, an interesting interview was given by a Ukrainian sniper fighting near Bakhmut with the call sign "Grandfather". On the air of political scientist Yuri Romanenko, he was introduced as Konstantin Proshinsky (this is a pseudonym).
The fighter spoke in detail about his vision of the situation of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Russian army.
- Mobilization. In his opinion, it is conducted incorrectly. Recruits are sent to the front who have never been trained, and they are often over 50 years old and with a whole bunch of diseases.
- No rotation. The soldier says that "the same brigades" are fighting at the front, and people are not taken out of the front line for six months or more. Whereas by Western standards, they can be kept in a war zone for no more than three months.
- Behavior of mid-and high-level commanders. According to Proshinsky, many of them are trying to arrange a "mini-Stalingrad" on the positions, forcing them to go into frontal assaults on well-fortified Russian positions.
- The Russian Army began to fight better.
- Proshinsky believes that Russia has not yet used much of what it has against Ukraine.
The soldier thinks that the Russians will not move from their positions and that a stalemate peace like in Korea would be the end result.
UAF in real dire times— recruiting the elderly, poor logistics, engaging the enemy at inopportune times, and Russia has yet to waver
I believe that to be wrong. Russia's aim is to liberate at least the four regions that it has claimed for itself. For political reasons it can not stop before that is done.
Should the Ukraine continue to fight after that, Russia is likely to set new aims and take more land.
more editorializing, but it doesnt seem unreasonable. i thought Russia would stick to its original goal of Donetsk and Luhansk, but if Zaporizhzhia and Kherson are receptive to Russian governance, it would be foolish for Russia to give them up
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I keep thinking "damn that's a really good bit" and then I see the username and remember that we're federated and it's not a bit. Damn, that really sucks someone really thinks this.
This. Is. A. Pig. That. Has. Pooped. On. Its. Own. Balls.
But it's hilarious that people like that can't whine to the mods to suppress posts they disagree with. Federation is going to be fun!
The only thing I've ever given to one is a ban lift with the caveat that is they don't start lurking and keep posting bad takes, it'll be permanent.
When they say bots do they literally mean that they think the comments are AI generated or something? Do they really think that highly of AI like as someone who has worked with it if someone had a script hooked up to gpt replying to all these comments it would be incredibly obvious
On the other hand, perhaps they mean that we’re brainless automatons repeating le outlet propaganda mindlessly without nuance? That has to be the most quintessential example of projection on earth. Literally replying to links and sources with suck. It. Bitches lmfao
I assume they're pretty young and using it in the same way it's used in games as an insult. Kind of like how "boomer" used to mean a specific generational cohort and now it just means "person I don't like"
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^ This. Is. Your. Brain. On. Liberalism.
Hard to engage with a liberal when they’re operating on an entirely separate version of reality
I thought it was a bit. I'm not entirely convinced it isnt.
Edit: 3 day old account. Definitely a bit
It's a pretty funny bit
Too good
Read that and could have sworn it was Neera
Idealism will do that. 👀
Did you coup their democratically elected leader in 2014 for democracy too?
Is that why you sent them weapons to persecute an ethnic cleansing in their borders for eight years? For democracy?
Americans are the most propagandized people in the entire history of the world.
Americans got the right to vote to select the Ukrainian government in 2014 so yes it is a democracy.
And by “Americans” you mean Victoria Nuland.
''DAE le ebic investment??? le line goes le up, amirite???''
drop a brick on your toes
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Converting the libs with walls of text
finally, the one true leftist
The true tankie prefers converting the libs with seas of tanks
GOOD post
There was a reason Zelensky won about 90% of the 2nd round vote in Donetsk and Luhansk, while his majorities got slimmer and slimmer the further you went West, until you get to Lviv (reactionary capital of Ukraine), the only oblast he didn't win.
The whole thing is such a tragedy. There were so many opportunities to not do this, but DC and Blackrock wanted their meal of flesh.
Re: the same Banderites
I think it's important to note that the UON-B (B for Bandera) never had more than I think 20,000 members in Ukraine, and the fascist Ukrainian insurgent army, UPA I think? Never numbered more than 100,000 fighters before the Soviets crushed their insurrection. It's utterly bizarre the degree to which a genocidal traitor with a tiny following has been elevated to a national hero with a broad following.
Also worth mentioning for anyone who doesn't know - Stingers, a Man Portable Air Defense System (MANPADS) and other anti-aircraft weapons are some of the most tightly controlled, important, and fraught weapons systems in the world short of weapons of mass destruction. The ability to reliably kill enemy aircraft is simply a necessity in modern combat. To give a state or non-state group additional air-defense assets is an enormous escalation of hostility. MANPADS are especially important because they're a man-portable system. I think a Stinger team can be as small as two people. So a MANPADS team can pop up just about anywhere and kill a military or civilian aircraft. Non-state militants acquiring MANPADS is a constant security concern around the world. It's a big deal.
Lmao you think the West is a democracy.
Investing in Democracy by immediately banning opposition parties in Ukraine and the current government being the result of a manufactured coup against an elected government.
Actually, it's a result of dissatisfaction with that Government. Zelensky got popular for his reformist Plattform after all, promising among other things improved relations with Russia.
He didn't deliver, and before the war as I understand it, the popularity of "Servant of the People" was declining, as I understand it.
Hard to improve relations with Russia when you're breaking agreements with them and shelling the separatist republics for like 7 years, lollll
Well yeah, that's part of the problem. Also the utter failure to reign Azov's influence in, Among other things.
in zelensky's defense, it does seem like he originally told the nazis to stop shelling civilians but they told him to fuck off and ramped it up
That’s when he should have sent the rest of the army to take them out.
maybe if wanted to get maidaned again by the CIA
I don't think he ever had that much control. There aren't a lot of Fascist party members in the Rada, but there are always a lot of fascists around the members of the Rada. I guess you could call it soft-power control of the country. They don't directly occupy many of the positions, but they have enough influence to be very influential, if not the dominant force.
The Wikipedia chart for polling on what was supposed to be 2023 parliamentary election (unclear when it will actually happen but it's definitely not as originally scheduled because of martial law):
There's at least rumors that the Banderites running the front told him to fuck off and remember his place when he tried to start negotiations to end the conflict.
democracy is when you ban all the opposition parties
It's the Taiwan method of democracy. Step one is genocide.
I'm amazed how you libs always manage to write off anything that even moves slightly from the narrative provided by NATO mouthpieces as 'bots' or 'shills'. It's dehumanizing and only proves you're so propagandized engaging with you is almost futile. Some comrades have taken the time to respond to your brainless comment with a wall of text giving a much broader view of the events that led to the war in Ukraine. I know you NAFO idiots don't like reading, but please try. If you do, great. But I'm assuming you won't, here is a pig. With. Poop. On. Its. Balls.
Liberals don't be misogynist challenge (impossible)
Also I upvoted this at first because I was absolutely sure it was a bit. I guess I'm still getting used to Hexbear being federated.
Wow democracy defenders sure are bloodthirsty, how about we stop "investing" in the pile of bodies you've created in the name of a coup government that you call democracy?
Ukraine? The west? Democracy? Were you born yesterday? Since when has the west ever cared for democracy outside of propaganda value?
Just going to post an excerpt of Samir Amin's thoughts on this from the 2014 coup in Ukraine.
What is in any way democratic about the above? What is democratic about the imperial triad ruling the world by force and instigating a coup in Ukraine to serve their own interests? Seems very authoritarian and the opposite of democracy to me.
You can find the full summary here
If this is a bit,
If this is not a bit,
It's not a hexbear or grad account. It's legit
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Democracy means a western puppet regime, authoritarianism is when you don’t obey American marching orders to send half your country to certain death
I blame Vice and Netflix. People saw Euromaiden through Vice's reporting and the documentary that was on Netflix and just assumed it was leftists in favor of democracy kicking out a Russian backed dictator.
The wiki page on the coup even lays it out plainly. Straight up Nazis like the Misanthrope Division kicked out elected officials.
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Yep. A lot of the discourse around nazis in Ukraine focuses only on Azov battalion but i think that's limiting discourse since it ignores Svoboda, C14, Misanthropic division, Kraken, right sector, patriot of ukraine, social national assembly, and countless others, many of which predate A.B. and go back to the 1990s or even earlier, like OUN-B, which goes back to nazi collaborators Yaroslav Stetsko and Stepan Bandera in WW2 and never stopped existing
oh yeah, keep going
No thoughts, head empty, rattling off every good country the NYT has ordered me to support like the obedient repeater that I am
always the same map
I would say you have an infantile conception of geopolitics, but I would wager that most infants are more knowledgeable by way of ignorance.
Let’s see, we have murderous dictator’s exile island, murderous dictator’s exile peninsula, Nazi shithole, etc etc etc
Pick up a gun and fight, coward
One of these things is not like the other. South Korea and Taiwan are both areas that should be re-unified with the countries that
cut them off of, if there is a Formosan population to return it to that may be a solution with Taiwan as well. What's your beef with Poland?
South Koreans famously love capitalism, which is why all of their most heartfelt media is about how nightmarish capitalism is.
This is just like squid game omg
Anti capitalism is basically illegal there too, with immediate suspicions of being DPRK intelligence operations and the like
Poland's Sabre-rattling a lot, I suppose. There's a Wagner on the border hysteria in Both far-right State media and lib private media, As well as a detailed reporting on basically all battles in Ukraine, etc.
Like ai mentioned in a recent megathread, the government (Morawiecki, I think) announced the movement of 10k troops to the Belarus border.
Oh yeah, election season just started yesterday in Poland
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Jingoist death cultist liberal to Fascist death squaddie squawking for nuclear Armageddon speedrun hardness level: One scratch away easy
Bomb Iraq for democracy!
Why aren't you at the front then, coward? You believe in the cause, yet you're sitting here posting while people are being forced to fight and die on your behalf.
This has to be a bit
It's not, we're federated now, people really think like this outside our instance lmao
"people"
the bourgeois are not human
The bourgeois don't use lemmy. This is just some brainwashed dumbass who never thought anything outside what is permitted by the state.
Please don't do that. Let's leave the othering to the fascists.
As revolutionaries, we don't have the right to say that we're tired of explaining. We must never stop explaining. We know that when the people understand, they cannot help but follow us.
—Thomas Sankara
Read a book besides Harry Potter
it amazes me that there exist dumbasses on your level lmao
If anyone's going to attack Poland (which they won't.) it's gonna be from it's own sabre rattling. There's nothing more that pleases people from PO to PiS and anything inbetween than it's neighbors getting losses, be it Germany, Russia, Belarus and any country that's not in its own sphere of influence like the rest of the Reddit Belt
Honestly the USSR and the US both sitting on Europeans and forcing them to not slaughter each other for consecutive decades is probably the best thing that has ever happened to that barbaric, benighted continent.
Well...
Okay Lambec is also pretty cool.
You genuinely think the USA, a country that repeatedly hands power to the person with less votes, really cares about all that 'will of the people' stuff?
They sure didn't care about democracy when they were supporting military dictatorships in Taiwan, South Korea, and numerous other places.
Chile, Bolivia, Argentina, Brazil, Nicaragua, Venezuela, Cuba, Greece, Japan, Niger, Somalia, Australia (not military, but royal), Cambodia, Vietnam, Yugoslavia, Jakarta/Indonesia (this one ended in genocide), and thats still just scratching the surface.
It amazes me the amount of people who don't realize they could defend democracy better themselves by going to Ukraine and putting themselves on the front line.
If you think the Battle For Democracy is so important, and that it's going to be won at the cost of hundreds of thousands of dead Ukranians, go put your money where your mouth is. Stop shoving them into the meat grinder so callously and claiming that they're heroes for Defending Democracy, whatever the fuck that even means. Go jump in with them and make a real impact. If it's a cause you care about go participate
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Surplus Democracy for Me
War and Death for You
Many of you will die [for democracy in Ukraine, SLAVA UKRAINI], but that is a sacrifice I am willing to make
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Thanks for the psychic damage
hahah oh my god are you fucking ignorant, jesus christ
Is this a bit?
Democracy is when you vote once every 2 years to pick which of the people (who don't represent your interests) you want to represent your interests :)
Oh and then 9 people you didn't elect will tell you what you can and can't do
THAT'S what's at stake
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I don't get it, is this comment supposed to be a joke?
it definitely scans like one, hits all the high notes, and it's a 3 day old account. so my bet is on "bit"
Russia is more democratic than
see: Euromaidan, a coup instigated by the CIA to overthrow the elected government of Ukraine
edit: and the PRC is leaps and bounds more democratic than Taiwan
https://nitter.net/taiwanplusnews/status/1688897858391732225
Hey just wondering do you think that 1930s-1940s Japan was a democracy?
That's a hopeful sentiment. If communism would win in Russia, they could retreat
Why would they retreat when the USA has to Narcan Ukraine with the entirety of the USA’s elementary school budget every other week.
Even if communists took power today, why the fuck would they? Crimea is still of utmost geopolitical importance, and Ukraine will go back to genociding Russians in the southeast if they "retreat"
Did you know the US doesnt recognize Taiwan as a real country?
I wish someone would remind Brandon. The 21th century is going to be a nightmare unthinkable in human history no matter what, but it would be nice if we didn't include a global thermonuclear war.
I'm convinced they will
When the crumbling of the empire becomes too obvious, they will
we got a live one!
Did their democracy start before or after their native genocide, dissident concentration camps and forty years of martial law?
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"This. Is. An. Investment. In. Democracy."
Imagine typing like this and not being wildly embarassed lmao like you are pretending to do a speech or something
Double your democracy in just 3 years with this investment grindset tip
Billions must die for glorious
US unipolar hegemonydemocracy. More blood for the blood God. More skulls for the skull throne.Was it democratic when Zelensky banned every socialist party in the country? Was it democratic when an unelected coup government in Ukraine banned the Russian language from official use, prompting the Russian majority regions to demand autonomy? Was it democratic when Zelensky was voted in on the promise of enforcing Minsk II which would have given autonomy to the Donbass and ended the civil war, but then he immediately reneged on that promise and continued to bomb his own country?
The Russian Federation is by no means a force for good, but if you look at the US it has never "invested in democracy" because it doesn't care about democracy. It cares about client states getting in line. Pakistan is only the most recent coup they've encouraged.
Question for ya, a legitimate one.
If Russia is so weak as to be apparently held in check and or clowned on by Ukraine, an army a fifth of its size, logically Poland or any other Russian border state would have nothing to worry about, right? They all have larger and better equipped militaries.
If that's the case, why do you think Russia can possibly be a threat to the west?
:Umberto-told-you-bro:
Democracy is when rich capitalist nations fight each other to the death of innocent civilians
name LITERALLY ONE TIME when the United states fought for and achieved gains for common people of a foreign land
WWII, by accident? it's the only feasible example and even there I think you can argue that their actions after the war color the war itself in a less than positive light.
Ww2 is interesting because yes that was the one war where the US was justified but they did it in a way that only benefited American interests. And also only after they were attacked first.
yeah, that's what I meant by "by accident". they didn't intend to do anything but further American interests, but stopping the Axis benefited everyone.
Not only that but the Nazis modeled their treatment of what they thought of as "lesser races" on the US' treatment of indigenous people and black slaves.
I've heard that the US cutting off oil to Japan was intended to provoke a war. They didn't know about the Pearl Harbor attack in advance, but they were expecting Japan to take some kind of action because Japan needed access to more oil to maintain their empire.
Even then it was the USSR not the US who 'saved democracy' by destroying the Nazis
kinda sorta yeah, but also it was a sort of greek gift or trojan horse in that US's participation seemed to largely set them up to be a world superpower after the end of the war. so fighting to protect investments, further other investments, lay the groundwork for modern imperialism as the new capital order. although I know saying "the US was acting in self-interest" isn't saying much that we don't already know lol
edit: and y'all already talked about this further down the comment chain lmao, i shoulda read ahead first
your democracy is a sham and here's why
that dude's videos rock. he's underrated
Those are bad examples of democracies, since Poland is captured by the right wing and Taiwan and Korea only swing left when there's a popular uprising. These countries have elected bodies, but they don't reflect the will of the people.
I'd encourage you to take a look into the foundation of Taiwan and the Republic of Korea.
As far as defending democracy, call me when New Zealand or Bolivia are under attack.
If you think Russia is about to invade Poland you are absolutely out of your mind. Russia has neither any reason nor the means to do so
You are aware that both Taiwan and South Korea were both US backed dictatorships that only embraced "democracy" relatively recent and after intense and sustained public pressure, right? And that the US/NATO had secretly worked to rig elections in Italy and Greece (at least this is what the CIA has actually admitted to)? The idea that the US or NATO cares about protecting democracy is a complete joke to anyone with even a basic knowledge of Cold War history. You really should do some serious research and educate yourself on the topic.
South Korean "democracy" is about as sketchy as it gets, given the influence of cults on the government and the government's general use of crackdowns to control the labor force. It's still a very heavy handed government, even if the faces change once in a while.
Didn't it take untill Moon Jae-in for South Korea to have a president actually finish their term and not go to prison? Seems like a hell of a democracy if almost every leader goes to jail for massive corruption and being a puppet for Samsung / Hanwha corporations.
Remove the edit and This. Is. A. Legendary. Bit.
I legitimately thought it was bit until I read the edit. "This. Is. An. Investment. In. Democracy." could be a site tagline.
Mods make this a site tagline please
Ty nic nie wiesz o świecie na którym żyjesz poza tym że ci mówią które kraje są dobre a które złe
post-1991 Ukraine is a proxy of NATO. I feel bad for the people there, but not the government, or the US-backed reactionaries. The truth is, after the USSR was destroyed, former soviet countries like Russia and Ukraine became ruled by reactionary capitalists who bent the knee to the west, and the west did nothing in return but continue to expand NATO, and now pits former soviet countries against each other, getting thousands of people killed just to destabilize and privatize and loot the region even further. I hope one day you'll be able to see through the veneer of "democracy" rhetoric and see this.
'Everyone who disagrees with me is a bot'
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Yeah! Soldiers should be going into non-white countries to rape and kill women, as God and NATO intended.
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Its worse than that. They're OK with soldiers coming into their country to rape and kill women. Well, they're OK with Azov going into the Donbas Republics to rape and kill Dontest and Luhansk women anyway.
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