How dare you cite your actual personal experience to me. Repent and accept Obamacare into your heart, or face a barrage of lecturing/accusations of being a Russian bot.

  • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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    3 months ago

    A stepping stone towards what? I remember. Universal healthcare. By forcing everyone to buy private health care plans. death-to-the-poor

    • BodyBySisyphus [he/him]
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      3 months ago

      Don't worry, the current Democratic presidential campaign is continuing its strides toward universal healthcare by...
      *drumroll*
      ...dropping it from their campaign platform.

      • JoeByeThen [he/him, they/them]
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        3 months ago

        Lol, did they? Must've gotten overshadowed for me by them dropping opposition to the death penalty. Fuck em.

        • BodyBySisyphus [he/him]
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          3 months ago

          Here's what it says on her campaign website (ctrl+f "universal" = "no results found"):

          pablum

          As Attorney General of California, Kamala Harris took on insurance companies and Big Pharma and got them to lower prices. As a Senator, she fought Donald Trump’s attempts to repeal the Affordable Care Act.

          Vice President Harris will make affordable health care a right, not a privilege by expanding and strengthening the Affordable Care Act and making permanent the Biden-Harris tax credit enhancements that are lowering health care premiums by an average of about $800 a year for millions of Americans. She’ll build on the Biden-Harris Administration’s successes in bringing down the cost of lifesaving prescription drugs for Medicare beneficiaries by extending the $35 cap on insulin and $2,000 cap on out-of-pocket spending for seniors to all Americans. Her tie-breaking vote on the Inflation Reduction Act gave Medicare the power to go toe to toe with Big Pharma and negotiate lower drug prices. As President, she’ll accelerate the negotiations to cover more drugs and lower prices for Americans. As Vice President, she also announced that medical debt will be removed from credit reports, and helped cancel $7 billion of medical debt for 3 million Americans. As President, she’ll work with states to cancel medical debt for even more Americans.

          And Vice President Harris has led the Administration’s efforts to combat maternal mortality. Women nationwide are dying from childbirth at higher rates than in any other developed nation. The Vice President called on states to extend Medicaid postpartum coverage from two months to twelve: today, 46 states do so — up from just three near the Administration’s start.

          • InevitableSwing [none/use name]
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            3 months ago

            pablum

            AI could write this shit. In fact - maybe it does.

            • took on
            • fought
            • expanding and strengthening the Affordable Care Act
            • build on
            • the power to go toe to toe
            • accelerate the negotiations
            • called on

            My favorite is "expanding and strengthening Obamacare" which has been meanless lib filler for years.

  • DrCrustacean [any]
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    3 months ago

    "It was supposed to be the beginning, something to build up on."

    Neat! Biden's been president for four years. What's he built upon it?

  • Infamousblt [any]
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    3 months ago

    It was supposed to be something to build on?

    Okay so build on it then? It's been like 10 years hurry up

  • BodyBySisyphus [he/him]
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    3 months ago

    manhattan
    "It's 2008 and the latest marquee piece of Democratic legislation is flawed and stuffed with handouts to a useless and predatory industry, but it will be a stepping stone to something greater."

    manhattan
    "It's 2021 and the latest marquee piece of Democratic legislation is flawed and stuffed with handouts to a useless and predatory industry, but it will be a stepping stone to something greater."

    manhattan
    "It's 2028 and the latest marquee piece of Democratic legislation..."

  • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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    3 months ago

    Obamacare was literally a Republican idea, and how uniquely American: threatening everyone with the threat of the law to buy luxury goods they can’t afford.

    How is this the hill they’re going to die on? Just join us and commiserate the fact that this country is way too pig-headed to even see universal healthcare on a state level.

    • anarcho_blinkenist [none/use name]
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      3 months ago

      I have called it Romneycare for years; fuck this advertising-ass country trying to repackage its shit to feed the peons. It's like how the "bald eagle screech" they always use is just a dubbed-in red-tail hawk. bald eagles squawk like gulls. the US is truly the empire of lies, just with a high-paid marketing department. but that only goes so far.

    • Lovely_sombrero [he/him]
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      3 months ago

      Obamacare was a great stepping stone towards universal healthcare, that is why we must all oppose any kind of effort to achieve universal healthcare today.

  • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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    3 months ago

    It's fucking true though

    Putting shit in the hands of private insurance is fucking awful

    I have what's supposed to be bulletproof insurance, best you can get, nearly everything is covered 100%

    I'm still waiting for my insurance to approve a CT scan for an issue with my kidneys

    My doctor submitted it herself over two months ago after my post-surgical ultrasound (had my gallbladder removed and they were making sure everything was fine) showed what could be scarring or a cyst in my right kidney

    I tried calling and they told me that their investigators still had to review the case

    WHY DO YOU HAVE TO DOUBLE-CHECK AGAINST MY DOCTOR‽ SHE SAID I NEEDED IT, FUCKING LET ME GET IN THE SCARY DONUT ALREADY

    • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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      3 months ago

      I could benefit from getting a pain killer cocktail injected into my spine once a month, but insurance won't cover it because it's not FDA approved. Well it is, just not for my condition....but for my condition, so long as it was caused by diabetes and not physical trauma. They're $2,000 a dose, which I can't afford, so I just don't get them. Also I need dental work done, but I'm maxed out this year so I'll have to fork up $400.

      At least if the ACA wasn't in place, I'd have to pay money....or something idk I'm not a lib so I don't know what the excuse is.

      • FlakesBongler [they/them]
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        3 months ago

        Like, the fact that dental insurance is separate and somehow more fucked up than regular medical insurance is enough evidence for me to want to go nuclear

        • DefinitelyNotAPhone [he/him]
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          3 months ago

          Dentist: "Hey, you grind your teeth in your sleep. If you keep doing that, we'll have to root canal half your mouth."

          Me: "Well, that sounds shit. What can I do about it?"

          Dentist: "We can 3D-print you a mouthguard to wear at night. All it takes is scanning your top row of teeth and then producing it, which we can do in-house."

          Me: "Sweet. How much?"

          Dentist: "Well, you're insured, so that comes out to... $1,000."

          Me, fucking around and about to find out: "But I have insurance? This is preventative and the alternative is literally tens of thousands of dollars in expensive, painful surgery. Surely they must cover it."

          Dentist, laughing hard enough to have an aneurysm that their insurance won't cover: "lol. lmao, even"

          fedposting is the only summary of what I'd do to insurance executives if ever given even a modicum of political power.

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    2 months ago

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  • sweatersocialist [comrade/them]
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    3 months ago

    it was supposed to be a stepping stone to build upon, that's why ever since it's been enacted it's only gotten somehow even shittier

    there are a couple things in the aca that are useful, like the pre-existing conditions shit, but none of the 'useful' things in the aca would even be relevant in a singlepayer system

  • FnordPrefect [comrade/them, he/him]
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    3 months ago

    It was supposed to be something to build on

    lol, so is a basement, but if you never actually build anything it's always going to be just a hole

  • hypercracker
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    3 months ago

    no no it's great, I get to choose between 15 indistinguishable health plans that all cost $500/month and when I try to comparison-shop by clicking on plan documents I get a big fat 404 file not found error

  • edge [he/him]
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    3 months ago

    When was it ever presented as “something to build upon”?

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      2 months ago

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