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I'm the same as I was 4 years ago except less optimistic about the world and future since I learned of the reality of how fucked capitalism is. But I just discovered chapo chat today so that's something positive I guess :)
How did you come across it? I've been wondering how new people would find this place after the first waves of reddit->discord->chapo.chat refugees.
Imagine being completely oblivious to the discord drama; just completely at peace and pure😇
I head about moving to discord, but discord makes no sense to me, so I never joined. It sounds like I didn't miss much.
It was fun for like the first week, but I didn't use it except for the little notification of this place opening up. There were 10000 users and like 80 channels which were either dead or looked like twitch chat (gross). I'm surprised some people actually stayed behind.
Here's a sloppy retelling, someone else might jump in, but even this is giving far more attention than it's worth.
Kinda had to be there, but the whole transition from the sub to the discord wasn't great, cause some mods were just picked up cause they volunteered. One of them went full libertarian and explicitly stated that they'd let loli porn slide since it was just cartoons (insta banned, but they probably shouldn't have been a mod in the first place).
A week or two before this place was gonna get launched, a nb user (who you may have known if you browsed the sub a lot) felt that they had some transphobia directed at them from another user, and the mods kinda flubbed the handling of it. Other users who had had tiffs with the mods rallied around them, and started a campaign against the mods for "being transphobic (or tolerating it)" even though many of the mods are trans/nb.
Same goes for sectarian stuff ("you're anti-ML", even though most mods are ML). Everyone got banned for constantly starting shit and we're basically told "come back once the forum is up and it'll be a clean slate, we don't have time to deal with this". The mods reached out to the group (numbering like 20-80 users I think) a couple of times and couldn't get much of anywhere with them. Then once this place finally got online, some of them spammed and did what they could to tear it down, even though most users weren't really involved in their shit.
Anyway, it sucks that some people with legit grievances were good folks, but they kinda flubbed the way they confronted the mods (some demands were fine, some were unclear, some were too strict, some accusations were exaggerated, making constructive conversation difficult), so not much ended up happening all said and done.
All in all, I consider it the growing pains of a small online community.
Some people think so, but I think the group denied it. They were spamming some other stuff too.
I came across it on reddit lol I don’t use reddit much so I was late seeing an announcement post about this site
Yeah, it had to be a very quick turnaround. Didn't really get much warning. Glad you found your way here.
My elderly father, whom I can't stand as a person but who also did nothing wrong as a citizen, moved in with me because he's too sick with cancer to care for himself but not sick enough for hospice care.
Want to get radicalized? Try changing out piss and shit pans while also maintaining a job, raising a 5 year old, and attempting to be a good partner - all while being told nothing can be done.
Long story short: fuck Trump and fuck fuck O'Biden. Fuck this system.
I’m sorry you’re going through that. Solidarity, friend. It’s good to let it out.
Cushvlogs aren't a personality cult bro, you're taking it out of context bro, you just have to listen to >5 hours of grillstreams to understand the grillpill psychodialectic :matt: :grillman:
Edit: I want to be clear that I enjoy the Cushvlogs and am only making fun of my own personal tendency to feel a parasocial attachment to our Large Adult Son Matt . So go ahead and pin a big "/s" on the tail of this post. Irony is cancelled
you won't be laughing any more after we set up a compound in the middle of nowhere to worship matt
i won't be laughing because i'll be there. middle of wisconsin probably
can't wait to bring our king his treaty treats after the daily 1 hour ramblings
it feels more like a heavily one-sided conversation with my weird uncle who is vaguely well-read than a cult tbh
I like the cushvlogs, don't agree with a lot of Matt's reads on things, but think there's definitely something worthwhile to be gleaned from thinking about our political behavior in terms of trying to fill a void of meaning or spiritual fulfillment left by living an incredibly alienated, atomized life while conditions worsen around you.
Man is not a damn prophet who will lead us all by the hand into getting shit done or singlehandedly synthesizing faith and communism though. I think most people recognize that.
Are there any particular episodes that are quite good, required listening?
He's had a few solo Chapo that I quite liked, like his ones on Upton Sinclair, The Weather Underground and the 18th Brumaire. Am I missing any good Matt analysis by skipping the Cushvlogs?
I'd probably just pick a recent one, honestly. The bits that I found interesting are all kind of strewn here and there.
I really like when Matt different the History is a Weapon series with the dude from Antifada. Probably some of the best left wing podcast episodes out there.
They're paywalled on Antifada's patreon but maybe you can find free links
When he first started them, he said he always thought of being an AM radio personality. I think of our local radio chud and hope one day Matt aspires to greater things than all these talk show psychos. The theories of parasocial attached stuff seems a little sus. If you live in a big city and spend time in the public eye, strangers will get to know you and wanna chat you up at a bar. Noam Chomsky answers random emails for christ sakes.
I googled this prepared for the worst and somehow it outdid my expectations...
sooooooo i just met a new hiking buddy and they are a chapo, i told them about the site
What topic did you choose for their in-person struggle session evaluation?
The pandemic really has people getting (back) into some old hobbies and interests huh. Shoutout to the person who is binge favoriting and reviewing the fanfiction I wrote in middle school. Won't read the reviews because I'm pushing 30 and I'll die of cringe if I even think about any of it, but damn I'm glad someone's getting some enjoyment out of it.
Read the reviews it’ll make you half cringe and half feel a warm glow.
You’re not the person you were in the past, but you can still take credit for her work.
Just knowing that the writing I was really proud of in middle school is still enjoyed and appreciated is plenty of serotonin for me, I'm just gonna imagine the praise and wire that confidence boost back through time to me as a 12 year old who needed it lol
th the tt... we have a responsibility, we take an oath, to protect and defend our california burritos.
freedom fries intesify
Comrades, it’s a sad day for me. I broke my hand yesterday and now my posting powers are diminished.
Thanks for the idea OK that’s good job please stop thanks enough
If Karl Marx was alive today, he'd have a patreon for writing medium essays and his podcast.
Really makes you think huh
https://www.vice.com/en/article/pky7am/bidens-twitch-channel-banned-the-word-frack-and-mentions-of-war-crimes
Twitch user “elitepeanutbag” asked “what’s everyone’s fav obama era war crime? Mine is when we refueled Saui Bombers that were leveling Yemen.”
Okay, which one of you was this
"It's important to bring up the issues of our military involvement in the [Middle East] because American imperialism is a matter that both parties fail to curtail or address,” they told Motherboard in a Twitter DM. “In this election the Democratic Party sees it as a referendum on Trump, however the Democratic Party's priorities and platform are often inline with American imperialism...my reaction to the ban is that it was expected and evidence that the Biden campaign is interested more in discussing abstract ideas like ‘Battling for the soul of the nation’ than it is in addressing material changes in our nation's international policy.”
“I believe it’s incredibly important to address the blatant human rights abuses that happen and continue to happen inside the Middle East,” justin4763 said. “By banning people who brought up U.S war crimes, it shows how willing they are to cover up their own administration's misdoings, no matter ethical concerns.”
based twitch users
After months of pleas I have been unbanned from many comms on this site. Thank you to admins.
I’m healthier, more radical and happier than I was four years ago! Thanks hellworld!