What a stupid fucking electoral system. Least actually-democratic system in the western world by far.

trump-anguish

  • CleverOleg [he/him]
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    22 days ago

    Americans get sooo mad when I say Cuba objectively has a more democratic system than us.

      • SevenSkalls [he/him]
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        22 days ago

        "Bu-bu-but, it's a one-party state! That automatically makes it less democratic!"

        • sweatersocialist [comrade/them]
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          22 days ago

          and then you point out that the US is a 1 party state too, masquerading as a two party state which isnt any better and literally only exists as an illusion to trick these dummies into not seeing the one party state lol. these people are at each others throats hating each other when “both sides” of them largely believe the same stupid racist capitalist bullshit

    • HamManBad [he/him]
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      22 days ago

      But I can't even buy campaign ads in Cuba? How can you call that democracy?

  • joaomarrom [he/him, comrade/them]
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    22 days ago

    So according to the 538 nerds, this is gonna be 2016 all over again lmao even down to the birthday tweet. Time really is a flat circle.

    rust-darkness

    • infuziSporg [e/em/eir]
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      22 days ago

      A girlboss is pre-selected by the party apparatus to be the first woman president, she picks a straight-laced dad and blue-leaning state governor named Tim as veep to run against Trump who's running with a very socially backwards Midwesterner...

  • invo_rt [he/him]
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    22 days ago

    A year and a half of spectacle and entrail-reading just to end up with a coin flip.

  • dustbunnies [she/her, comrade/them]
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    22 days ago

    omg, it really is gonna be 269 to 269, isn't it 😂

    this is going to be so fucking funny, except for the risk of violence

    do we think the libs will Rise Up if the tiebreaker goes to Trump, or will the MIC prevent his winning a tiebreak, or will they just work with him again because he was tolerable before, or what

      • GeorgeZBush [he/him]
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        22 days ago

        They WILL join Dumbledore's Army

        They WILL watch shows with the correct lib politics

        They WILL write articles

        And they WILL #RESIST

      • dustbunnies [she/her, comrade/them]
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        22 days ago

        I used to be very confident in this too, but every now and then, I look at /r/Ohio, and there have been a few threads of libs saying they've gotten guns and been training with them since Jan 6 because they're worried about "what the trumpers will do when he loses again"

        and probably most of them are full of shit, but idk how confident I am that all of them are

      • REgon [they/them]
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        22 days ago

        They are ready to vote right FUCKING now if they could though

    • D61 [any]
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      22 days ago

      omg, it really is gonna be 269 to 269, isn't it 😂

      I hate living in a perpetual state of "seeing history happen".

    • SkingradGuard [he/him, comrade/them]
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      22 days ago

      do we think the libs will Rise Up

      Lol no definitely not. Despite all the fear mongering by the fascists in the republican media sphere, the democrats are not leftists, they love the system as much as the republicans do (who also claim to hate the system).

    • HamManBad [he/him]
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      22 days ago

      Unfortunately not, because that one district in Nebraska would have to go red for that to work and it's been moving into solid blue territory for a while. Harris might win by exactly one electoral vote though, which would be less funny "ha ha" and more "acceleration into the cool zone"

  • ItalianMessiah [he/him]
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    22 days ago

    It was a system never intended to be a Democracy.

    It was designed to balance the needs of a bunch of oligarchical states so they could act as a cohesive unit. They are the bourgeoisie version of the HRE or Greek City states. Instead of the nobility, it was white, wealthy, landowners.

  • thethirdgracchi [he/him, they/them]
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    22 days ago

    Based on this map he only needs to win Pennsylvania or Michigan or Wisconsin, all of which are effectively tied. Lots of pathways to win. Kamala's got to win all three, or lose Pennsylvania and pick up like North Carolina.

    • Nakoichi [they/them]
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      22 days ago

      I called it months ago. I bet trump carries all three and maybe more. It's going to be a slaughter lol

  • StalinStan [none/use name]
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    22 days ago

    Say what you want about democratic centeralism but votes should have like 90% approval. I never really thought about it but there should bea threshold way above 50%. if 1in 2 people are unhappy with a vote it doesn't really represent the will of the people even though it is technically democracy

    • HamManBad [he/him]
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      22 days ago

      You're assuming this is designed to represent the will of the people. No, it's designed to give the ruling class a veneer of legitimacy

  • EllenKelly [comrade/them]
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    22 days ago

    Why are the calling americas Democracy Colon a snake? Its foundational to the shit system! No respect for tradition I tell ya

    • Krem [he/him, they/them]
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      22 days ago

      lady liberty's diet is so devoid of fiber and nutrients that she has a pennsylvania lodged in her colon. will she please stop this carnivore diet bullshit?

  • Parzivus [any]
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    22 days ago

    It's crazy to me that the margins are still so thin right now. Six states have a less than 2% difference between the candidates, any random event could swing the election right now. Trump is lucky Puerto Ricans can't vote lol

  • D61 [any]
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    22 days ago

    matt-jokerfied

    Four years before a presidential election, each state gets to make its case to be "The One!"

    Its kind of like America's Got Talent or one of those shows where people sing at a panel of celebrities.

    After 4 years of making their individual cases, slowly having the number of competitors winnowed down by viewer votes, the final state gets to be "The One!". The only state that matters during the presidential election. Think about it? All the wasted resources trying to campaign in states where a candidate KNOWS they aren't going to win, knows that the Electoral College invalidates the votes FOR all of the candidates that didn't get the majority. All the plane trips, all the Secret Service and local cops having to fuck up traffic in every city or town during a political event, all the campaign ads spread out inefficiently across the entire 50 states and US territories, all the handwringing about voting for the lesser of two monstrous evils... can just be focused at the state that gets to be "The One!" this year.

    partiotism

    • Adkml [he/him]
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      22 days ago

      Seriously how much did that fucking rally in fucking TEXAS cost.

      For a state that has been "about to go vlue" for my entire life

      • miz [any, any]
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        22 days ago

        tell me more, I'm not caught up on this Texas rally. wait, a Texas rally? Kamala went to TEXAS in the last week of the campaign? [rolls eyes] only makes sense as theater and it's not even believable enough to make the Trump campaign flinch

        • HamManBad [he/him]
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          22 days ago

          It might have been more about getting turnout for the guy running against Ted Cruz, who's really underperforming in the polls rn. And even though the other guy is definitely a neoliberal ghoul, I hope he wins. Because fuck Ted Cruz

  • TomBombadil [he/him, she/her]
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    22 days ago

    When I saw Trump speak months ago I was sure he was cooked. Should never have doubted Dems ability to lose from a position of strength

    • merthyr1831@lemmy.ml
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      22 days ago

      I'm a McDonald's truther. whatever they put in those fries he made has given him the strength and vigor to come back

  • Chump [he/him]
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    22 days ago

    If the number of Trump billboards in and around Philly are any indication, yeah

  • grandepequeno [he/him]
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    22 days ago

    Is that true, he only needs to win PA? And what about the dems do they need to win PA and more?

    • sexywheat [none/use name]
      hexagon
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      22 days ago

      From what I can tell, yeah. At least according to the lanyard-dorks at 538: the blue genociders need to win every single swing state, but the red genociders just need to win PA. That's assuming the red genociders win Arizona, Georgia and North Carolina.

      The only poll that matters is election day of course, but it seems IMO more likely for the wet boy to take it.

  • Eris235 [undecided]
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    22 days ago

    More or less.

    Current odds I've seen is that Pa is 'the state' that decides the election about 1/3 of the time, with the other 6 'battleground' state making up most of the rest of the 2/3s