I don't follow the American national anthem lyrics, I just googled them for the tag line and wtf.

Edit: oh its about some battle according to my bf

  • miz [any, any]
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    2 months ago

    because killing everyone you disagree with will fix your life?

    guarantee you this person advocated for glassing the middle east in the early 2000s

    • Verenata
      hexagon
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      2 months ago

      I'd put money on it. Like a decent amount. 100% this guy was a "muslamists aren't compatible with our values" ghoul and still probably is. It's cos the ceo was white he's blates mad.

          • Bureaucrat
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            2 months ago

            Okay but now imagine if everyone in England nuked eachother when they got drunk, instead of beating each other with glass

              • Bureaucrat
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                2 months ago

                I don't really mean anything, I was just amused by the idea of the english meaning of "glassing" being the same as the military meaning, but nothing else being changed. There's no depth to it, I just found myself chuckling at the image of some old geezer going "oi mate!" and then just... explosion over a disagreement about when tottenham was most shit

                • TheWolfOfSouthEnd@lemmygrad.ml
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                  2 months ago

                  Actually that has me giggling. I’ve never seen anyone get glassed, though. I’ve heard numerous stories though, probably mostly bollocks, cause that’s what people do. Bet they’re all based on this scene.

      • Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml
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        2 months ago

        Nuking a place, especially a desert will create lots of glass from the heat. So "glassing" a place is slang for nuking it, or just bombing it so hard nothing remains.

      • miz [any, any]
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        2 months ago

        in this context it means a bunch of nuclear strikes, which in the American imagination would turn all of the sand there to glass

  • cosecantphi [he/him, they/them]
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    2 months ago

    Phrasing this as some kind of trivial disagreement is an extension of politics in the US being totally disconnected from the material conditions and lives of most everyday people. They literally can't comprehend the idea that executives should be held accountable for the death and destruction their companies leave behind

    • RoabeArt [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      Motherfuckers saying "diagreements" like this guy got killed over his pizza topping or ice cream preferences or something.

    • Verenata
      hexagon
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      2 months ago

      I wonder if there's Americans who have seen the response to this guys death and been like "wait maybe I'm wrong here?"

        • Verenata
          hexagon
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          2 months ago

          Keep going Shirley!!!

          (Who's Shirley?)

            • Verenata
              hexagon
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              2 months ago

              oooaaaaaaauhhh

              I didn't lurk hard enough!!

              • MalarchoBidenism [he/him]
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                2 months ago

                It's a joke from the movie Airplane.

                "Surely you can't be serious?"

                "I am serious. And don't call me Shirley"

                • Verenata
                  hexagon
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                  2 months ago

                  Omg okay no I remember the scene now 😭 😳 😫 😩

      • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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        2 months ago

        That’s always absurd because they never shut up about how they want anyone to disagrees with them to die. Hell, some of their “disagreements with me” is that I disagree with the notion white men should decide who gets to live or die based on whether or not they find someone’s existence annoying.

        Come to think of it, why are they claiming to be ok with having friendships with people they also claim they want nothing to do with?

    • Barabas [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      It is a systemic problem to be sure, but that doesn't mean that enriching yourself through the extreme imisseration of others is somehow morally neutral. Like that american who went to Palestine, stole land and defended himself with "If I didn't steal it someone else would".

      When your entire economic system is based on extreme inequality it makes sense that this is a line of thinking that would be both spread and adapted. I don't have to question why child workers are manufacturing my goods under extremely poor and dangerous conditions, it is just how the world is.

    • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      They're always vague like that, because if they said "Kill people just because they think they should be allowed to choose to withhold life-saving treatments just to line their own pockets", then it would sound absolutely justified.

    • Verenata
      hexagon
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      2 months ago

      We nearly had musk v Elon in mma. It's so unfair. I despise them both but I'd love watching the lizard man beat the crap out of him in the ring.

        • Verenata
          hexagon
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          2 months ago

          Moma's boy v lizard bot

      • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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        2 months ago

        Old school proper duel with flintlock pistols and it's a total tie with both landing lucky shots on each other, 2 shitbirds 1 stone.

        • Verenata
          hexagon
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          2 months ago

          Nooo staaahhppp I don't want to dream!!!

          What if zuck won the duel but was injured and as he walked to like go get treatment and his trophy someone just goes "sorry Mr zuck but your skibidi" and the film ends as the bullet takes out zuck and we get cringe 2010 dude action movie expendebles style ending credits with nu-metal kicking in and explosions bskslfkekeldleldlelr that's an explosion sound

          • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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            2 months ago

            I know in my heart that Zuck would have won that fight and it wouldn't have been close. If you look at his competition footage and his stuff with Lex Friedman you'll see him kind of fumbling around, but he's within the 1 standard deviation of a white belt. (Looking back on them with my last year of progress, I see the INSANE foot sweeps he could have hit if he knew they were there). He doesn't get flustered when the rubber meets the road and he is able to execute a game plan. He can do SOMETHING which is more than enough to stop Dr. Eggman.

            I think he low diffs if not no diffs

            • Verenata
              hexagon
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              2 months ago

              I have no idea what any of this means I'm so sorry 😭

                • Verenata
                  hexagon
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                  2 months ago

                  Nooo so did I fr but from "I wanted it to happen" vs a "i actually know what I'm talking about" place lmao.

                  So like translate for me, you think zuck would of won?

          • Bureaucrat
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            2 months ago

            Nah it has to end with that Linking Park song

            • Verenata
              hexagon
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              2 months ago

              Only if there is enough special effects and jingoistic plot points in the movie.

              • Bureaucrat
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                2 months ago

                Optimus Prime is a colonizer and Michael Bay did that on purpose I won't believe anything else

                • Verenata
                  hexagon
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                  2 months ago

                  Isn't there a scene in the marky mark dinosaur transforms where this dude over 18 has a minor gf and whips out some card that says its legally okay for them to date or something nuts like that? Not a serious and healthy folk franchise. catgirl-disgust

    • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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      2 months ago

      If I recall correctly, the Hamilton-Burr rivalry started with a disagreement over federal banking and how currency should be minted.

  • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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    2 months ago

    Craven apologist boot-people always boil down life and death exploitation to "a disagreement". To quote from someone here: "Fuck you, I wish your entire ideological cohort had been more thoroughly disagreed with in World Disagreement II"

    • Verenata
      hexagon
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      2 months ago

      Lmao it took me a second to follow that 🤣

  • LaughingLion [any, any]
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    2 months ago

    wreck people with one simple response when they chastise you for violent rhetoric:

    "im not a pacifist and neither are you"

    • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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      1 month ago

      And if they insist they are a pacifist, you can just slap 'em around a bunch and if they defend themselves you can call them a hypocrite.

      • LaughingLion [any, any]
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        1 month ago

        i always respond with "oh so you support abolishing the military and police, too?"

        if they dont i tell them its not pacifism to demand others do violence on your behalf, it's cowardice

        • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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          1 month ago

          Yeah, that's a good one. They're only "pacifists" because they are personally unaffected by the violence of the system.

    • Verenata
      hexagon
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      2 months ago

      Bring back trial by combat for CEOs but it's against a real life polar bear.

    • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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      2 months ago

      I was literally saying this to someone yesterday, that even though this technically doesn't improve my life in any way, living in a world where this can happen feels like cracking the window after fifteen hours in a boiling car. It makes the moment-to-moment experience of living a little more comfortable, and that's something that really does improve my life.

      Live like a vulture, die like a dog.

      • Bureaucrat
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        2 months ago

        Misery loves company and if I knew the person responsible for my misery was miserable too, then my misery would be less miserable

    • Verenata
      hexagon
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      2 months ago

      It's such a fucking silly comeback, like my dude did you think this was deep or well thought out? This is Ben shapiro levels of rebuttal. 0/10 lmao bad lib.

    • Verenata
      hexagon
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      2 months ago

      Disagreement noted insurance man gunpoint

  • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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    2 months ago

    because killing everyone you disagree with will fix your life?

    [x] yes chad.jpeg

  • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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    2 months ago

    Depends on where you draw the line on level of disagreement really. Which issues do we disagree on? If it’s “The poor should die” yes actually killing everyone who disagrees with me would improve things dramatically

    • Verenata
      hexagon
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      2 months ago

      Errmmm yes I think anyone who thinks "the poor should die" is vigilante bait 💪

    • Verenata
      hexagon
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      2 months ago

      Okay so I get this reference now I think, my bf said apparently the anthem references a battle for some fort and it was the first warfare to ever use rockets as a weapon and the British General who used them got them after seeing them used by the Chinese?

    • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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      1 month ago

      Those guys are funded by an oil heiress. They aren't there to protest climate change, they are there to make climate change protestors look bad so people don't support them.

  • Bureaucrat
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    2 months ago

    because killing everyone you disagree with will fix your life?

    i mean

    • Bureaucrat
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      2 months ago

      Funny to reduce "denies healthcare" to just being a disagreement. The CEO just disagreed with the killer about how much air he should be breathing, I don't get why the NYCP are so set on finding him. Do these people just want to lock away everyone who disagrees with them?

    • Verenata
      hexagon
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      2 months ago

      stabby-crab anyone who doesn't validate me all the time gets the crab stab