I don't follow the American national anthem lyrics, I just googled them for the tag line and wtf.

Edit: oh its about some battle according to my bf

  • miz [any, any]
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    11 days ago

    because killing everyone you disagree with will fix your life?

    guarantee you this person advocated for glassing the middle east in the early 2000s

    • Verenata
      hexagon
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      11 days ago

      I'd put money on it. Like a decent amount. 100% this guy was a "muslamists aren't compatible with our values" ghoul and still probably is. It's cos the ceo was white he's blates mad.

          • Bureaucrat [pup/pup's, null/void]
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            11 days ago

            Okay but now imagine if everyone in England nuked eachother when they got drunk, instead of beating each other with glass

              • Bureaucrat [pup/pup's, null/void]
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                11 days ago

                I don't really mean anything, I was just amused by the idea of the english meaning of "glassing" being the same as the military meaning, but nothing else being changed. There's no depth to it, I just found myself chuckling at the image of some old geezer going "oi mate!" and then just... explosion over a disagreement about when tottenham was most shit

                • TheWolfOfSouthEnd@lemmygrad.ml
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                  11 days ago

                  Actually that has me giggling. I’ve never seen anyone get glassed, though. I’ve heard numerous stories though, probably mostly bollocks, cause that’s what people do. Bet they’re all based on this scene.

      • Sodium_nitride@lemmygrad.ml
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        11 days ago

        Nuking a place, especially a desert will create lots of glass from the heat. So "glassing" a place is slang for nuking it, or just bombing it so hard nothing remains.

      • miz [any, any]
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        11 days ago

        in this context it means a bunch of nuclear strikes, which in the American imagination would turn all of the sand there to glass

  • cosecantphi [he/him, they/them]
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    11 days ago

    Phrasing this as some kind of trivial disagreement is an extension of politics in the US being totally disconnected from the material conditions and lives of most everyday people. They literally can't comprehend the idea that executives should be held accountable for the death and destruction their companies leave behind

    • RoabeArt [he/him]
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      11 days ago

      Motherfuckers saying "diagreements" like this guy got killed over his pizza topping or ice cream preferences or something.

    • Verenata
      hexagon
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      11 days ago

      I wonder if there's Americans who have seen the response to this guys death and been like "wait maybe I'm wrong here?"

        • Verenata
          hexagon
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          11 days ago

          Keep going Shirley!!!

          (Who's Shirley?)

            • Verenata
              hexagon
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              11 days ago

              oooaaaaaaauhhh

              I didn't lurk hard enough!!

              • MalarchoBidenism [he/him]
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                11 days ago

                It's a joke from the movie Airplane.

                "Surely you can't be serious?"

                "I am serious. And don't call me Shirley"

                • Verenata
                  hexagon
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                  11 days ago

                  Omg okay no I remember the scene now 😭 😳 😫 😩

      • DragonBallZinn [he/him]
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        11 days ago

        That’s always absurd because they never shut up about how they want anyone to disagrees with them to die. Hell, some of their “disagreements with me” is that I disagree with the notion white men should decide who gets to live or die based on whether or not they find someone’s existence annoying.

        Come to think of it, why are they claiming to be ok with having friendships with people they also claim they want nothing to do with?

    • Barabas [he/him]
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      11 days ago

      It is a systemic problem to be sure, but that doesn't mean that enriching yourself through the extreme imisseration of others is somehow morally neutral. Like that american who went to Palestine, stole land and defended himself with "If I didn't steal it someone else would".

      When your entire economic system is based on extreme inequality it makes sense that this is a line of thinking that would be both spread and adapted. I don't have to question why child workers are manufacturing my goods under extremely poor and dangerous conditions, it is just how the world is.

    • CthulhusIntern [he/him]
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      11 days ago

      They're always vague like that, because if they said "Kill people just because they think they should be allowed to choose to withhold life-saving treatments just to line their own pockets", then it would sound absolutely justified.

    • Verenata
      hexagon
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      11 days ago

      We nearly had musk v Elon in mma. It's so unfair. I despise them both but I'd love watching the lizard man beat the crap out of him in the ring.

        • Verenata
          hexagon
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          11 days ago

          Moma's boy v lizard bot

      • SorosFootSoldier [he/him, they/them]
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        11 days ago

        Old school proper duel with flintlock pistols and it's a total tie with both landing lucky shots on each other, 2 shitbirds 1 stone.

        • Verenata
          hexagon
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          11 days ago

          Nooo staaahhppp I don't want to dream!!!

          What if zuck won the duel but was injured and as he walked to like go get treatment and his trophy someone just goes "sorry Mr zuck but your skibidi" and the film ends as the bullet takes out zuck and we get cringe 2010 dude action movie expendebles style ending credits with nu-metal kicking in and explosions bskslfkekeldleldlelr that's an explosion sound

          • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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            11 days ago

            I know in my heart that Zuck would have won that fight and it wouldn't have been close. If you look at his competition footage and his stuff with Lex Friedman you'll see him kind of fumbling around, but he's within the 1 standard deviation of a white belt. (Looking back on them with my last year of progress, I see the INSANE foot sweeps he could have hit if he knew they were there). He doesn't get flustered when the rubber meets the road and he is able to execute a game plan. He can do SOMETHING which is more than enough to stop Dr. Eggman.

            I think he low diffs if not no diffs

            • Verenata
              hexagon
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              11 days ago

              I have no idea what any of this means I'm so sorry 😭

                • Verenata
                  hexagon
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                  11 days ago

                  Nooo so did I fr but from "I wanted it to happen" vs a "i actually know what I'm talking about" place lmao.

                  So like translate for me, you think zuck would of won?

                  • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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                    11 days ago

                    So Zuck practices/practiced BJJ. I have a brown belt in BJJ and with experience coaching competitors and classes, so I feel qualified to analyze white belts. You can see some competition footage of him as well as a roll with Lex Friedman who, say what you will about him, is a BJJ black belt[1][2]. In his no gi competition he gets some real resistance even in the stand up right at the very beginning. Then you see him defend submission attempts and, though sloppy, he manages to figure out how to pass the guard. If you combine that with his footage with Lex Friedman, you can see him doing honest to god BJJ. This is significant because there are celebrities who will train BJJ who don't get "real" looking BJJ - which is to say that it looks as if their practice does not include resistance[3]. Distilling its history as distinct from Judo, BJJ, the collection of martial techniques, prides itself on the effectiveness of its techniques against resisting opponents, so "unreal" BJJ is the subject of ire. Celebrities will often times get private lessons (with prestigious coaches) so they don't risk getting injured by the general public and putting some movie shoot, and all the employees working on it, on delay. So it's cool when Lex Friedman puts Zuck in real dilemmas and you see Zuck think through it with techniques that make you go leo-point .

                    Musk, on the other hand, name drops a bunch of different martial arts he tried as a child[4]. It arouses my ire even before you give them the 9999 billionaire hate-coefficient. It's like your uncle who used to bench 4 plates. It's the kind of thing I grin and walk away from IRL. This man would have pointed to his competition experience if he had any. He is 51 years old and wears it. Not like it's a problem until he's walking around telling people you'd beat a practicing martial artist in martial arts. Steven Hawking's oil paintings wouldn't be subject to harsh critique unless he goes around bashing the cis teens who painted the chapel.

                    To round it all out: Zuck wouldn't have had to take an asprin after taking melon-musk off balance and climbing on top of him on the floor. There's always a market for "the striker vs the grappler" fights. But in those kinds of fights the data bares out that the grappler has the edge. In the UFC, the most prestigious league, a base of wrestling makes more champions than any other base (they, however, must be great in every dimension to be the best anymore). So even given Musk has an equivalent amount of experience in kyokushin, the most MMA relevant art he listed, and comparable athleticism then he's still at a disadvantage. But in every way he's not a real rival for Zuck's white belt BJJ. It's smoke and mirrors. Zuck might as well bring a dog collar into the ring and try and put it around Musk's neck. He should bring a book in case he gets bored fighting Musk.

                    [1] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qV6GC3p4jH0

                    [2] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Wy-6z17up4

                    [3] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFeaa8nIOgY

                    [4] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPRah0RJTs8

                    • Verenata
                      hexagon
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                      11 days ago

                      Im pretty good at BJs myself as well actuallly 💅 lmao

                      Okay so I think I followed 🥰

                      So Zuck is actually really good at grappling and it's not just for show to the point people trained and well read can be like holy shit leo-point

                      Musk is a lying hack who lists a load of stuff he did as a middle age crisis or as a kid and thinks being tall, big and pretending he can throw a bunch will somehow rival actual skill and technique someone seriously nurtured.

                      That it?

                      • WhatDoYouMeanPodcast [comrade/them]
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                        11 days ago

                        I wouldn't go so far as to say he's good. When it comes to white belts, you don't exactly bring your A-game against them. You have to play around with them, try your silliest moves, and control the pace. If you watch Lex fight him, you might see that Zuck can only work techniques because Lex gives him some space to try. The thing is that Zuck is showing the kind of competency you can expect of a white belt in general. He's not fighting like a celebrity, he's part of the crew, part of the ship. And I think you can expect a BJJ practitioner, in general, to beat the divorced as a state of mind Elon Musk in a 1 on 1.

                        Besides that, yeah, you're exactly right. At the end of the day, grappling, while being very human and ubiquitous with every culture ever, is very funny. If you want to watch a really funny fight (or at least the theatrics around it), might I suggest Craig Jones vs Gabi Garcia (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HID-Xi8hOUw). It's only kind of problematic because Craig's whole mission was to get women athletes paid.

            • Verenata
              hexagon
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              10 days ago

              Only if there is enough special effects and jingoistic plot points in the movie.

                • Verenata
                  hexagon
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                  10 days ago

                  Isn't there a scene in the marky mark dinosaur transforms where this dude over 18 has a minor gf and whips out some card that says its legally okay for them to date or something nuts like that? Not a serious and healthy folk franchise. catgirl-disgust

                    • Verenata
                      hexagon
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                      10 days ago

                      https://scifi.stackexchange.com/questions/236102/why-is-there-a-scene-about-the-age-of-consent-in-transformers-age-of-extinctio#236105

                      Aaaaaaaaaaa I can't believe it's as bad as I was told omfg 💀💀💀💀💀💀💀💀

                      Lmao how do you know they are even real then? I could be gaslighting you right now catgirl-smug

                        • Verenata
                          hexagon
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                          10 days ago

                          Mirrors are sexist and they will be required to self crit under my new regime and only present flattering and fair reflections back. This will make up some of their crimes.

    • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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      11 days ago

      If I recall correctly, the Hamilton-Burr rivalry started with a disagreement over federal banking and how currency should be minted.

  • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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    11 days ago

    Craven apologist boot-people always boil down life and death exploitation to "a disagreement". To quote from someone here: "Fuck you, I wish your entire ideological cohort had been more thoroughly disagreed with in World Disagreement II"

    • Verenata
      hexagon
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      11 days ago

      Lmao it took me a second to follow that 🤣

  • LaughingLion [any, any]
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    11 days ago

    wreck people with one simple response when they chastise you for violent rhetoric:

    "im not a pacifist and neither are you"

    • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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      10 days ago

      And if they insist they are a pacifist, you can just slap 'em around a bunch and if they defend themselves you can call them a hypocrite.

      • LaughingLion [any, any]
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        9 days ago

        i always respond with "oh so you support abolishing the military and police, too?"

        if they dont i tell them its not pacifism to demand others do violence on your behalf, it's cowardice

        • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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          8 days ago

          Yeah, that's a good one. They're only "pacifists" because they are personally unaffected by the violence of the system.

    • Verenata
      hexagon
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      11 days ago

      It's such a fucking silly comeback, like my dude did you think this was deep or well thought out? This is Ben shapiro levels of rebuttal. 0/10 lmao bad lib.

    • Verenata
      hexagon
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      11 days ago

      Bring back trial by combat for CEOs but it's against a real life polar bear.

    • ShimmeringKoi [comrade/them]
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      11 days ago

      I was literally saying this to someone yesterday, that even though this technically doesn't improve my life in any way, living in a world where this can happen feels like cracking the window after fifteen hours in a boiling car. It makes the moment-to-moment experience of living a little more comfortable, and that's something that really does improve my life.

      Live like a vulture, die like a dog.

      • Bureaucrat [pup/pup's, null/void]
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        11 days ago

        Misery loves company and if I knew the person responsible for my misery was miserable too, then my misery would be less miserable

    • Verenata
      hexagon
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      11 days ago

      Disagreement noted insurance man gunpoint

  • Belly_Beanis [he/him]
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    11 days ago

    because killing everyone you disagree with will fix your life?

    [x] yes chad.jpeg

  • ClimateChangeAnxiety [he/him, they/them]
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    11 days ago

    Depends on where you draw the line on level of disagreement really. Which issues do we disagree on? If it’s “The poor should die” yes actually killing everyone who disagrees with me would improve things dramatically

    • Verenata
      hexagon
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      11 days ago

      Errmmm yes I think anyone who thinks "the poor should die" is vigilante bait 💪

    • Verenata
      hexagon
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      11 days ago

      Okay so I get this reference now I think, my bf said apparently the anthem references a battle for some fort and it was the first warfare to ever use rockets as a weapon and the British General who used them got them after seeing them used by the Chinese?

    • Bureaucrat [pup/pup's, null/void]
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      11 days ago

      Funny to reduce "denies healthcare" to just being a disagreement. The CEO just disagreed with the killer about how much air he should be breathing, I don't get why the NYCP are so set on finding him. Do these people just want to lock away everyone who disagrees with them?

    • Verenata
      hexagon
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      11 days ago

      stabby-crab anyone who doesn't validate me all the time gets the crab stab

    • DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml
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      10 days ago

      Those guys are funded by an oil heiress. They aren't there to protest climate change, they are there to make climate change protestors look bad so people don't support them.