There is a spector haunting Lemmy, the spector of trans people that disagree with you.
Liberals on Lemmy are ridiculously fast to let fly all sorts of conspiracy theories if it means discrediting any trans people to the left of them. Worse still, is that this behaviour is reinforced by Lemmy mods, look at this ban Cowbee copped for the crime of being allegedly uncivil to this transphobe:
Every day, I'm glad for you fuckers building at least this tiny queer safespace on the internet. Death to the cis, etc.
ledditeur's Ol' Reliable:
why aren't they slobbing my knob once I've simply declared myself an ally? They must all be fake trans
But seriously, Cowbee you have the patience of a saint
It helps when they make me look cooler when they talk about me, haha, though I'm overdue for a break from Lemmy.ml.
This just in: Commenter on Hexbear community /c/slop claims to be Rowling herself, world-renowned TERF, and doesn't get her comment removed, thus showing that rule 4 is just for show
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Just read the libs’ reaction to this interaction on sh.itjust.works (TW: lots of transphobia) and sh.it’s just absolutely awful. Just and endless stream of victim-blaming and doubling down on their transphobic crap.
It’s pretty much just the top comment that’s somewhat decent (except the last paragraph). The rest of the users (including the fucking admin) have no shame at all handwaving all the bigotry away, some even saying stuff that’s way more transphobic than Yerbouti’s.
Fuck this is depressing!
Abbreviate shitjustworks and you immediately realise why there is absolutely no reason engaging with anyone on that particular lemmy. The abbreviation is not an accident.
On the brightside, this absolute gem came out of it (no CW needed):
"Cowbee isn’t just another tankie. He knows his theory and will use it to dazzle you with bullshit."
I’ve heard the phrase “baffle with bullshit” before but never “dazzle with bullshit”
This has to be the greatest compliment a lib can give. "Do not trust this trickster spirit, they will use a vast knowledge ancient magicks to trick you into disagreeing with the US State Department"
I know, I kinda want to put it in my bio but I'm not that self-interested. Wanted to share it because others might find it funny like I did lol
Um, is that a quote from you? or did someone else say it?
Truth be told I kinda hate that I'm getting some degree of enioyment out of the absolute terror I seem to strike in the hearts of the MWoG weirdos, when at the same time these people are genuinely defending and fighting for their rights to not only be transphobic, but enforce that.
Yeah, I had to chuckle at that one as well. That’s just such a weird thing to say, even when you have
."Enemy is weak yet strong" shenanigans. I somehow have a multifaceted reputation as being "contradictory," yet "knowing theory." Some other banger responses to my ban:
"Alright thanks good to know. Thank you for taking such action. I have rarely seen someone acting so innocent yet at the same time being so disingenuous."
Which part was disingenuous? I spent the majority of that thread calling out transphobia, do they think I did that for personal gain?
"That guy is so annoying with his faux-neutrality/naivety. What a phony, good riddance."
From the same person that went on a Sephiroth rant about how Hexbear is bigoted, then ran to MWoG to
CW: Transphobia
Complain about a conspiracy theory of Russia and China "transing the youths" to create radicals against the United States.
Incredibly, deeply unserious people.
Then at least let me, for a bit of a change, tell you that I’m glad that you’re a part of this community. You’re awesome!
(also, who the fuck says “biological men” in the transgender context, its called transgender women)
Conservatives and other right wing that’s who. That’s why you hear tankie leadership saying it.
They really love just making shit up and expect no one to check, don't they?
The same people: "what do you mean blue maga, definition? Debatemedebatemedebatemedebateme"
Same admin who was butthurt over people hating on
in a different threadI’ve never seen liberals be that much of a debate pervert, except on r/destiny. Caught me completely off-guard.
Now this is the stuff that should be on dbos power tripping bastards comm, not people spamming they got banned from ml for being a shit head.
I know. I probably will, just don't know if I'm ready for the they're on ml they should know mod abuse responses
Definitely don't if you don't want a war in the comments, but you should know that by doing it in a space where Leftists can see it you'll have a ton of support by your side. Again, though, I don't blame you one bit if you'd rather not deal with it.
Glad to hear that. I'm 50/50 only because I'm already in a grenade throwing mood so probably need to wait until cooled off haha
Up to you! Nobody will think less of you for not wanting to deal with that.
I'm finding that a lot of irl liberal spaces have been weird about transphobia this past year. I'm connecting the dots with his thread, civility is just "I'm transphobic but I'm not gonna say it".
they always have been. i've been out as nonbinary since 2017 and i've had just as many weird libs be transphobic to me as conservatives. they just go about it differently.
It's truly depressing seeing the continuous right-wing slide of Lemmy.world. It isn't surprising, of course, but they'd rather ban people calling out transphobia for being "aggressive" than address the transphobes, and that says a lot about their moderators actual stances.
Your comment wasn't even that aggressive. It is fully within the bounds of civil discourse by their standards. You've clearly pinned them as transphobic in a way they can't even reconcile, so instead of dealing with this contradiction you've presented, they bury you. It's everything they claim places like Russia or China are about. The federation model of decentralizing services really does lead to little fiefdoms run by petty lords.
Edit: But we love our petty lords here, don't we folks!?
100%. They side with transphobes when it's Leftists calling them out, because it helps obscure the nature of their particular method of censorship. Now, censorship can be a good thing when combatting misinformation and bigotry, of course, but that's the opposite of .world's methods here.
Defederation is the most you can do to censor an entire group of people. It looks less obvious because you don't see removed comments, but it shuts out speech. Leftists are generally more up front and honest about what they censor and why, while .world and sh.itjust.works try to pretend that they don't censor at all.
Yet, they recently made that announcement about the site requiring "Civil Disagreement" in all communities. It leaves one to wonder how much of their actions are intentional, or if they truly believe they're acting in a civil and just manner.
Look, if we can have civil war, I don't see why we can't have civil disagreement that includes cannons is all I'm saying
Pretty sure they are "true believers." When their hypocricy is pointed out, they double down.
odd that they also accused me of being "aggressive" as well when i rarely comment there; sounds coordinated.
My investment on being anti federation keeps paying dividends
@gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com and @Leate_Wonceslace@lemmy.dbzer0.com are making transphobic comments in that post, yet no action on divionsbyzer0?
Not surprising given that one of the admins of that instance made anti-GSM comments
Congrats, Cowbee, you've won a week's vacation from AskLemmy on .world!
Honestly, better for my mental health to not see constant unaddressed bigotry.
The meanwhile on grad thread about this is even worse, CW transphobia:
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Wasn't iamaqtpie the one who was complaining about anti-american bias earlier this week?
That guy is just an up-front chud
These people would say water is dry if Russian and/or Chinese people said water is wet. They are out of their mind.
Peaked back into that thread, a gem: (no CW needed)
"Cowbee isn’t just another tankie. He knows his theory and will use it to dazzle you with bullshit."
Lmao
On the bright side, some comrades are calling out how horrible that post is, though minimal.
Would be especially funny if we could have it detect your username and pronouns and do it that way, but I don't know how hard that is to accomplish.
·10 hours agoThe username part isn't very hard, there are already taglines that do that, but the pronouns is a bit more difficult. I think the current taglines just use "they/them".
Hm. I've seen some users explain why they (collective) don't like to be referred to by they/them pronouns, so that might be a different discussion.
Oh yea, I'm kinda in that group.
I'm aware, haha. Knew some others were in that group too, I probably could have worded that better.
The rival nation state's devious, psychological warfare tactics of... helping people realize who they really are? Makes it sound like your rivals are the good guys.
I think everyone forgots the secret program of Russia and China to forcetrans people. I had tens of people in my city growing up report Putin AND Xi Jinping coming over and injecting them will a new set of hormones. That is what happened to me too. I was talking to a friend online about the US political system being deeply transphobic and bigoted, and I heard the door being slammed on. I walked over because I thought it was the humble US police accidentally coming in to shoot me, then the door caved in. From the dust I see the silloettes of Xi Jinping, and Putin. They rush in, with Putin tackling me, and Xi injecting me. I scream in agony. I am injected with 2.5 mg of Estradiol cypionate in oil. Xi activates my now biological codephrase to be a communist agent, and tells me to repeat this injection weekly. Since then, every week on the dot, I have received 2.5 mg to inject myself with. They even find me when I'm traveling. I took a day off and visited my now girlfriend's house (she's also the leader of my local CCP chapter in my area (power dynamics)), and forgot to take my weekly injection. As I arrived to the entrance to the apartment building, who else was standing there, but Xi Jinping. I tried to run away, but it felt as if time had been frozen, and I couldn't move. He spoke some words in Mandarin I couldn't understand, and injected me with my hormones from 20 feet away. Suddently, he's gone. Time starts flowing as normal. Did I hallucinate all that? I do not know. I just continue on to meet my girlfriend.
I got about 4 sentences in and realized I was just writing fan fiction at this point but its funny to me so I had to commit
Yep, imaqtpie tried to tell me Hexbear is "more bigoted" yet is peddling alt-right conspiracy theories that
cw: transphobia
Foreign nations are "transing" the youth.
Unsurprising from the instance that maintains MWoG and NCD.
It would be worn into dust if you peaked into MWoG for any length of time.
Sometimes I get morbid curiosity, that Frisish user apparently has me listed as "tankie influencer" which is kinda cute. The biggest thing though is that it's overwhelmingly clear that any vague notions of being "left, just anti-tankie" is immediately overrun with defense of transphobia, anti-leftism, anti-DEI, anti-"wokeness" alt-right talking points, and it's abundantly clear that no user there actually has read Marx.
As an example, one visitor had recently read Anti-Dühring from Engels and was confused as to why a MWoG post was titled something along the lines of "banned for knowing Marxsim better than an ML," yet the body of the post showing the supposed knowledgable user's takes contradicted what they had read with Engels. The mod on MWoG proceded to talk down to them and claim the Bolsheviks were anti-Marxist for the NEP and that it was the SRs and Mensheviks who knew better, and that the Nazi led Hungarian revolt was a "real worker movement."
Very silly place indeed.
Tankie influencer is so based honestly.
Gotta sell tanks on XiaoHongShu now.
Didn't think people genuinely gave that much of a shit about me, it's kinda flattering. In a similar manner, the longer my Lemmy.ml mod log seems to get, the better it seems to prove my points about censorship.
Oh I'm aware, they got really mad when I suggested that defederation is censorship. Here's a "fun" thread to read where they spell it out. Even accuses HB of being more bigoted than sh.itjust.works and had an edgy monologue like they were Sephiroth.
For clarity, censorship can be a good thing. Removing bigotry and misinformation is good. Suggesting that you aren't doing so is manipulative and dishonest, though, and clearly sh.itjust.works has bigoted admins.
Sephiroth
although he's being an edgy bigot, i really hate this trend of calling anything with passion in it 'sephiroth posting' like come on
Fair, who do you suggest? I mostly used it because I saw others using it. It was impassioned but purely because they were getting flustered from getting called out.
Genuinely asking, I have no attachment to the phrasing whatsoever.
Did you post about your ban/removal on !yepowertrippinbastards@lemmy.dbzer0.com ?
Going off what cowbee already said, I'm not sure the post would even go over well there. Yes it's world doing something terrible but it also involves an ml account and the last week has been nothing but look how bad ml is for removing me after I was being awful
Nah, I'd rather not do that as the weirdos on MWoG are already relatively obsessed with me and I'd rather not give them ammo for me being "drama obsessed" or something. I could have done it earlier when they perma-banned me from Political Memes for calling out the moderators on removing comments explaining how the Democrats are complicit in Palestinian genocide, but didn't for similar reasons.
I'm 100% fine if someone else wants to make a post, though, I'd just rather not do it myself.
"If we treat you like a human being, the Russians win somehow."
Also, we need to turn Eastern Europe into a nuclear wasteland because... [checks notes]... Putin hates the LGBTs
"how can there be 50% trans people that's so unrealistic"
- user who has never been to a gay bar
That part was especially baffling. Like, you're getting accused of transphobia and are defending it, and you wonder why trans people flock to explicitly trans-positive instances? Do they not see the connection there, that perhaps the queer side may indeed have a point?
"How dare those trans people cause their own transphobia instead of just sucking it up so we can maintain decorum with people who violently fantasize about hurting them!"
If it's such a small, niche issue, then why the fuck can't you just tell reactionaries to fuck off?
huge thanks to Xi Jinping for personally coming to every trans girl's computer, installing Fallout New Vegas or Victoria 3, and watching the dominos fall in place. We owe him a massive debt for pushing Western civilization forward, we wouldn't have 100 Gecs or the People's Joker without him.
Uncritical support to President Xi here, now where are my Xi bucks?
this goes beyond This is full on brain scramblies
How do you think this and not realize you're only a degree or two away from quoting Nazi shit about how "The Jews are causing Social Decay"
They're centrists, they've got nuanced opinions, neither capitalism nor communism but rather a third position somewhere in the middle.
This is just straight up rightwing transphobic conspiracy theory. If there is political dialogue in US hyperfocusing on a "hyper-niche" issue it is because of conservatives who revolve their life around bodies of trans people, yet somehow the "rival psyops" isn't existence of said conservatives who make legislation in entire states that affect 1 or 2 trans people but existence of trans people who "suddenly realized they are trans".
non-cishets are a microscopic niche issue, we need to go back to only discuss cishet people and their issues 99.5% of the time
They need to read the Gender Accelerationist Manifesto. Or maybe they did but got the exact wrong takeaway point
this is so off the wall, what can you even say? you can really feel the political culture of mainstream-ish liberal spaces regressing the last 10, especially 5 years. academically i know why it happens but it's still kinda mind boggling to witness first hand
Didn't .world admins make a new rule to enforce flat-earthism? Maybe they are also enforcing transphobia now...
And in the same thread they accuse us of banning everyone who disagrees with us.
