Never had a twitter account either. Also not an anarchist. But holy fuck, I want to find these people and just [redacted] their dumb asses, and [parody]
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It's "little a" you fu...
...oh, you did it right. That never happens.
https://twitter.com/disclosetv/status/1352062780975755266?s=20 the symbol theyre waving was used by the social democrats when they turned on the left. This is just performative shit no better tme reductionism
do libs always run away and start their own cope thread where they show how bad they are at reading when you own them in replies or am i just experiencing an outlier on one of my rare forays onto twitter
Again, I don't use twitter, but I'd imagine that is standard procedure, yes.
Yeah holy shit, the replies to that tweet gave me an aneurism. Including someone saying "anarchists are left wing? GTFO"
How do we know it ain’t maga in disguise?
These are the same Portland anarchists who trashed Seattle in 1999 during the WTO meeting. This is a problem that predates Trump.
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Fuck it. This is good. I don't care what people say. Anything that helps people see that leftists aren't pro-Biden is good.
I think this is actually the main thing leftists are going to need to do the next couple of years. Ensure that people know that we are NOT fucking neoliberals, we are NOT democrats, and we ARE different.
And we WILL. TAKE. ACTION.
In minecraft.
Wish it were 200 million. Hell, I'd even take 200 thousand.
Those are not “left wing” people
Pinned Tweet of this Person?
A quote tweet of :warren-snake: Warren about Mueller Trump's Impeachable Offenses: (Thread):
let me guess "hur dur violent anarchists aren't the real left durrr"
You're a psychic!
Edit: You got any lottery numbers for me while you're astral projecting over there?
I dunno I think it was a pretty easy guess lol
I'll try anyway. Your lottery numbers are: 69
Nothing like a little bit of militancy to brighten up your day
Putting money down that someone in the replies is going to call those protesters Russian Troll Farms
-7DeadlyFetishes
was listening the NPR in the car earlier today during their live coverage of the inauguration, and it really frustrated and honestly kind of demoralized me
this news and footage have reinvigorated me
thanks for sharing
You see a lot of succdems smashing out the Democratic party office windows?
that's how it was originally created but now it's used as a general antifascist symbol
sometimes its good to read more than the first sentence on a wikipedia article
The Three Arrows were thought to represent the struggle of the social democratic movement against reaction (referring to monarchism), capitalism and fascism.
originally no
On a widely used and publicized SPD election poster for the 6 November 1932 Reichstag elections, the Three Arrows were used to represent opposition to the Communist Party, the monarchist wing of the Centre Party, and the Nazi Party, accompanied by the slogan "Against Papen, Hitler, Thälmann."
Thälmann being the major force that shifted the KPD from Leninism to Stalinism. Yes it's factional, not it's not against communism as a concept.
The three arrows also represented the three agents of working class strength: political (represented by the SPD), economic (represented by the trade unions) and physical (represented by the Reichsbanner Schwarz-Rot-Gold).[9][10]
The symbol had been modified to include a circle, and the symbolism changed to represent the unity of industrial workers, farm workers and intellectuals.
^ which is the version that is most commonly used now
So first off, they're largely correct about the symbol with the circle around it being different. I won't get into origins of that or how distasteful I find it that they use something the vile SPD traitors and Rosa killers made. It has a history and tbh I don't care enough to dig into it and try and sus out what came from where and whether this has its origins in the synthetic left the CIA cultivated in Europe and which then perhaps jumped the Atlantic. I don't know. Seems plausible to me but I'm not going to waste effort on it as it doesn't seem particularly useful as tbh even if I could strongly show this, those who use and defend it would deny it ever more strongly.
Thälmann being the major force that shifted the KPD from Leninism to Stalinism. Yes it’s factional, not it’s not against communism as a concept.
This is absurd. Anti-communism by any other name. There is no "Stalinism" other than as an ignorant slur used by anti-communist fools. Anyways the symbol they used (the one without a circle around it with the arrows pointed at a crown for monarchy, a swastika for fascism, and a red star with a white hammer and sickle for the soviet union and communism more broadly) was clearly against the only communist power in existence at the time which was the USSR.
These people were social democrats in every way that mattered and well Stalin and many others including Rosa had very potent words against them, far better than any condemnation I can give. They were the very grandfathers of "left anti-communism" which Parenti correctly describes as the unkindest cut.
Anyways, look how that worked out for those pieces of shit at the SPD. Not well at all, not for them, although quite well for the Nazis.
Stalin did nothing more than synthesize what Lenin wrote and advocated for into practice and adapt to the conditions as they unfurled I think I can speak for nearly all Marxist-Leninists here when I say we categorically reject as ignorant, disgusting, divisive, anti-communist BULLSHIT, attempts to separate Lenin and Stalin in the way the snitch Orwell and every piece of shit anti-communist with more than two braincells has been doing in the west for the past 70 years and more. I am serious here folks, look at decent history books that try and passingly engage with it in the US. To a one they all portray Trotsky as a sympathetic victim and many give the impression of Lenin as a good guy who inevitably (because muh human nature) was replaced by this caricature creature, this evil monster drawing of Stalin they have who ruined everything with his brutality. Stalin's greatest crime to the authors of this narrative, many of whom were likely Nazis themselves the US helped escape and gave power in NATO and elsewhere was Stalin's defeat of Hitler and keeping the USSR together afterwards. Anyone who rejects Stalin but upholds Lenin has a head full of propaganda where critical thought should be.
Probably because it's a more broad antifascist symbol nowadays.
Even back in the day, there were multiple interpretations (all by the socdems tho), they designed the symbol, because it's easy to "destroy" a swastika with it by spraying over it.
Probably because it’s a more broad antifascist symbol nowadays.
The American Iron Front is an anti-fascist & pro-democracy activist coalition. We are a big-tent community for patriotic folks working to undermine the encroachment of right-wing authoritarianism in this country, even if they don't necessarily identify with the more radical and/or revolutionary aspects of other 'Antifa' groups. We wish to reclaim the value of 'patriotism' from the ultranationalist right, and to encourage the American People to strive for a country where all are free and liberated.
None of that is overtly anti-communist, but (as other respondents have pointed out) the symbol has at various times been used in part as opposition to communism (among other things).
On a scale of 1 to sus, it's a little sus, but you can count on people using the symbol to reliably oppose the flavor of fascism currently being peddled by the GOP. Whether that extends to broader anti-police sentiments or awareness of America's historical fascist tendencies varies from person to person.
The three arrows were the symbol of the Eiserne Front - the militant wing of the Weimar Republic's SDP. Originally it represented opposition to monarchism, capitalism, and fascism but the capitalism got replaced with communism when they did the heel turn in 1932.
is the ussr flag anti-communist for taking part in dismantling anarchist communist tendencies?
not really no
and i was talking about spain
and that wasnt the question
tfw you totally know that every imperialist nation invaded Russia to assist the White Army, but they totally could have just not had a centrally organized army to stop counterrevolutionaries.
tfw central organization magically makes guns shoot harder or something
also monarchism was often considered to represent reactionaryism - i.e. there was still a commitment to socialism and it was an explicitly counter reactionary symbology throughout its time. even though it became somewhat factional
Most people still interested in the class struggle here are tankies or maoists lol
you think there are people on this website that arent interested in class struggle?
Not their primary focus anymore, and im not even talking about people who complain about "class reductionism"
some MLs get mad about it because much like their political theory, their interpretation of symbols have not evolved in nearly a century
The ML understander has logged on (this is meant to be a playful rift please dont start a struggle session lmfao)
much like their political theory, their interpretation of symbols have not evolved in nearly a century.
100 years of winning baby
eat shit (this is meant to be a playful rift please dont start a struggle session lmfao)
This isnt about evolving, it's the fact that most blac bloc posers copied european activists from the 70s and 80s, many of whom were coopted by the cia
"If the police aren’t reacting I’m guessing they’re not really liberals"
Really think they should have went with 'Justice' over 'Revenge' on that banner but good shit nontheless.
man why can't my city be this cool :(
