Due to post about feds nocking on their door and asking about Hexbear, which was posted outside of fake news and could be seen as serious.
Should've been done a long time ago. Melina's "ironic" shit was never funny to begin with, and they were really pushing it. I once called them out on something being inappropriate, and then they kept spamming "I'm not reading that" to reasonable criticism, and ended up stalking me in my DMs and calling me a fake communist. At that point I fail to see what's ironic about all of it, because it's behavior that's virtually indistinguishable from a typical wrecker.
melina was a massive troll who complained about everything in live.hexbear and argued with everyone, do we really need this kind of person around? please do not unban mods
Melina harassed me in DMs and that's how they got banned from Hexbear Live
Yeah, it’s not even good contrarianism. No one needs to deal with that kind of shit after a work week
Tbh I just didn't get why the bit was funny. Like, posting things specifically to deceive ppl and give them bad vibes (that Parenti post is the first that comes to mind) just seems shitty. The "oh you're triggered" bit strikes me as bad no matter what "side" it comes from 🤷
The whole "we're the cool kids and you losers just can't deal" vibe Melina/Melina's little fanclub gives off is annoying as fuck.
the thing that made me block them was banning ppl from fakenews for being 'crybabies' when they got upset about the parenti post
honestly since SecondThought mentioned the FBI has 750 pages on him and he could only manage to FOIA 5 of them without having to wait up to 5 years, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a lot of fed browsing of hexbear.
Yeah, which means they're most likely not knocking at anyone's door since they didn't shut down or disrupt his successful YouTube channel.
Well the whole reason he FOIA'd himself was because DHS knocked on his door and tried to question him about his video titled "The CIA is a terrorist organization." And for a few weeks after it came out users said they had to log in and click through 5 age warnings to watch it even though it didn't really have any adult content.
Yeah none of us are getting our doors knocked on (yet) because we don't have huge audiences, I'm just saying; they are collecting info about anyone who speaks against American hegemony, even in relatively obscure corners like this.
They know that open censorship will make people curious. They also know that most people don't want to bother with mild inconveniences. So they censor via inconvenience so they can pretend they aren't "technically" censoring something while also knowing that a huge chunk of the potential audience just won't bother.
My mistake, that's pretty wack. Still doubt anyone is coming for you for posing on hexbear
i am almost 1000% confident nobody official is ever gonna bother us for just posting here
hence why i let the "death to [specific person]" posts fly freely
I would compare Hexbear to Backpage. Backpage was loved by some Feds as a resource to catch human traffickers as they were incredibly cooperative. Later other Feds, took it down since it was a pretty easy target. Hexbear is probably like by some Feds since it keeps us posting in our own little fenced off area. Other Feds in the future might see us as an easy place to get some quick arrests in the style of Emanuel Lutchman.
If when Death Wish 3 The Crackdown comes and the best charges the feds can lay against you is posting on hexbear, you should be ashamed.
fine, i'll try to burn down a police station or kill a governor or something too
Yeah yeah, if that’s it took to get rid of that person I’m not afraid of the hot this provides.
It’s all on MAM, check it out
Remember to tip your
minder with generous amounts of high quality p0rn links so they can destress late night at the office.They were just studying
their subject for "research".
Do you remember where he mentioned that? I'd like to check it out
one of the early deprograme episodes, afraid i don't know which one specifically
Scholars far in the future will be perplexed on the FBI's Hexbear archive. It will be a hallmark of the collapse of the American espionage.
They flew too close to the sun. Crossing Hillary and Nintendo in the same week? They must have had a death wish
Melina was found dead at the bottom of the Mariana Trench after shooting themselves twice in the back of the head before putting their corpse into a trash bag and tying themselves to cinder blocks and throwing themselves overboard 😤
Wait is this fake news or is this real. I'm going to crack up if it's real. They taught me so much, like "how to block a community" and "how to block an individual poster."
Anyway if it's real RIP to a real one, thanks for teaching me the value of learning how to block people.
Also I don't think their pronouns were she/her so probably edit this so you don't get banned too. No reason to misgender someone no matter how shit they were. Unless the process of me blocking them also somehow means I can't see that they updated their pronouns, in which case sorry my bad but also weird bug plz fix?
It looks like they're banned: https://hexbear.net/u/Melina
If I had to guess, it's from the post about federal agents asking them about Hexbear which seems like a really bad joke.
Last I saw was they/them fae but I have no idea if that's accurate.
Yeah I just blocked Melina and the comm a while back and hadn’t even thought about them till today.
Melina was someone who was too unhinged for me to take seriously but not unhinged enough for me to find funny. They reside in a unhinged uncanny valley.
please refrain from using the language that describes the mentally less well, such as myself, to describe assholes like Melina
Not the same person but I've been trying to be better about that as well and I always appreciate the reminder, even though you shouldn't have to give it.
i typed a buncha stuff, but I'm really high and it made no sense.
Summary: That is an appreciated sentiment. You have never posted ableist stuff and I have a good memory for that usually, so cut the apologies. You rock as a comrade. Just ask if a descriptor is innate or earned before using it and all else falls into place. This of course runs into issues if anyone starts getting philosophical
Edit: why do we have nerd emotes? aren't leftists supposed to value learning? Is it a self-aware thing to prevent left coms invading?
Incorrect, women can be muscular jocks :whyistherenomuscularwomanemote:
I was wrong and short sighted. This is correct. The appropriate disclaimers I should have added are many.
My urge to shit on naturally muscular people was great and overwhelmed my good sense. Because I’m jealous tbh.
We've got nerd emotes to keep the debatebroism at a minimum. It's also a good way to add further insult to calling someone a redditor
I think the nerd emote is supposed to represent "um aktually debate bros" so I do think it has a place
I saw Melina at a grocery store in Liberal, Kansas yesterday. I told faer how cool it was to meet faer in person, but I didn’t want to be a douche and bother faer and ask faer for photos or anything. Fae said, "Oh, like you’re doing now?" I was taken aback, and all I could say was "Huh?" but fae kept cutting me off and going "huh? huh? huh?" and closing their hand shut in front of my face. I walked away and continued with my shopping, and I heard faer chuckle as I walked off. When I came to pay for my stuff up front I saw faer trying to walk out the doors with like fifteen Milky Ways in their hands without paying.
The girl at the counter was very nice about it and professional, and was like "You need to pay for those first." At first fae kept pretending to be tired and not hear her, but eventually turned back around and brought them to the counter.
When she took one of the bars and started scanning it multiple times, fae stopped her and told her to scan them each individually "to prevent any electrical infetterence," and then turned around and winked at me. I don’t even think that’s a word. After she scanned each bar and put them in a bag and started to say the price, fae kept interrupting her by yawning really loudly.
They were really annoying and negative on the movie nights channels. We don’t need to deal with this kind of behaviour after a shift ngl
That's one of the reasons why they were banned on that channel
Every day that passes I feel more vindicated in believing they were a fed. It was just such obvious wrecker shit. "Tee-hee it's funny when I'm hostile and I make up fake stories and wouldn't it be funny if we make a bunch of new Comms whose entire bit is to either lie or be purposefully bad or chuddy?"
That shit is just playbook wrecking and I'm disappointed so many bought into it.The wrecker-jacketing rule has really made this site less aware. Used to be shit like that got pointed out and rightfully so.
They weren't a fed though. You can't accuse every dumbass of working for the government.
You don't have to be employed by the feds to be a fed. You're a fed if you behave like a fed and do the feds work for them. I've also not accused every dumbass of being a fed, there's plenty of dumbasses who are just dumbasses.
Fed is a state of mimd
"You're either the people or you're the pig. The pig is never with the people, and the people is never with the pig." -- Fred Hampton (hopefully correct, it's from memory)
not every person who is funny in a way that you don't get is part of the grand conspiracy against you to annoy you online.
Can anyone explain to me what's so funny about Melina's posts? I genuinely can't tell.
They're funny at a post-ironic level, where the humor is derived from the juxtaposition of people not finding them funny or pretending to find them funny, and the hijinx that ensues therein. See Baudrillard's "Melina's Posts are Not Funny".
pretending to find them funny
This is the only explanation that makes sense to me.
Is that how you spell that guy's name or is this a dril refference?
They were just "heh" occasionally at first but they became funnier and funnier the more they drew absurd reactions from others. The more ridiculously melodramatic things were about the inconvenience of someone telling a mild lie on the internet the funnier I found it. The anticipation of reaction then became itself funny also.
so the entire joke was the reaction? wow, that is exactly the same thing as trolling. BRB making an alt and posting rule breaking shit to fit the tradition... jk
Yea the joke was that they said things that libs and chuds would say because they liked upsetting people here.
Which to my eye is indistinguishable from just being a chud.
I mean, yeah it IS trolling. That's sorta what fakenews is to begin with.
We find it very funny when people troll the media or libs or reactionaries. But turn hexbear's own humour on itself and people couldn't handle it. This to me was very very funny, partly because it's a "come on, if you dish this out you should be able to take it too". Maybe it's because so much the humour in this country is often self-deprecating though.
We find it very funny when people troll the media or libs or reactionaries.
Yes, because they are chuds and they deserve it? We shouldn't do that kind of thing to our friends, this is just reactionary "GROW A SPINE" boomer thinking
i've said this in some other comments, but there was a article that was like "Micheal Parenti Dead at 76" what's funny about that? how is that 'le epic troll makes fun of hexbear?' that just made a lot of people sad. and people saying that got banned for being 'crybabies'. i fail to see the irony or funny humour being turned on ourselves
If Melina was a brit that would explain a lot.
Personally I find the imitation bits done by other fakenews users to usually be amusing. They are not mean-spirited, which is a consistent vibe I feel Melina put off. Taking the piss is one thing, but self-deprecation is aimed inwards. Melina always aimed at a post somebody else made.
Melina was clearly a good poster, I just hope that talent is used in a less antagonistic way if/when the return occurs.
edit: actually, this changes if my hunch that gaycuckertarlson is an obvious alt
If Melina was a brit that would explain a lot.
i believe that actually is the case yeah
actually, this changes if my hunch that gaycuckertarlson is an obvious alt
they're not, they are def two separate people. they are friends though, as are all the fakenews crew (until the recent additions anyway, idk about them)
If I said I trust you to be speaking truth you would not feel guilt regarding the alt discussion? You are a person I choose to trust…
You are correct though, the evil Anglo has shit taste and cannot make good jokes except to this with similar damage such as “less dams hard Americans” and “more damaged zealanders”
naw i'm being dead honest here. i know for a fact that they're separate people.
the evil Anglo has shit taste
this, too, i know for a fact
Cool beans, the trust chip is slotted into the brain pan. Thank you for being honest with me. The way my head works I have a hard time figuring such things out.
This is part of why that stupid post pissed me off so much. Preying on users' trust by explicitly breaking the rule put in place to help foster trust to begin with (no fake news outside the fake news comm) was not acceptable as a bit and they always seemed to be trying to exactly that necessitating the creation of the comm in the first place. As someone that has had guns pulled on me before and a visit from the feds myself once many many years ago (not for anything I did mind you) I found that last post totally unacceptable and, frankly I find people like @Awoo@hexbear.net, whom I otherwise respect and like taking enjoyment from severely anxiety inducing posts like Melina constantly made quite disappointing.
First things first, I am both sorry that you had to deal with that and glad it did not turn into a big thing.
I've been fed agency involved after somebody tried to seriously hurt me once. I didn't call them or anything, it just happened because of how it went down and both of us being from different states.
I did not see that post until it was removed, but if I had seen straight I might have had a bad time. So yeah, I totally agree that shit was bad vibes.
help foster trust to begin with
edit: this is a good point. comrades should == trust
? I do get it with the issue of it being outside the comm though? I haven't defended that anywhere. I've defended the fakenews posting overall.
Yeah that is fine it was just that nothing about anything Melina ever posted was funny to me and that one went way over the line. But that wasn't the only one. Your posts have otherwise been fine.
That’s the vibe I got. Your version fake news posting was appropriately labeled and funny as a result (as opposed to not being labeled and potentially misleading).
Oh I'm not saying Melina was but that I am, and maybe that's why I have only cackled harder as this escalates. .
Ah, so you feel/have analyzed that there is a good critique of our/hexbear's sensibilities in there?
full disclosure: I would be absolutely fascinated by hearing more about the context necessary to understand the humor behind the posts.
I hope that is not too weird, but I get it if inquiring about site social history is viewed as such.
I wouldn't say good.
It's funny to me though. I don't know, I think one of the things about this shitty island that's a positive aspect of the culture is the fact everyone gets roasted by friends fairly regularly for the most mundane shit. And if you don't learn to self-roast and go along with it? You get roasted even harder until you do.
That's sort of what I saw here. Hexbear reacting and the response being to double and triple down to wind it up.
I bought some of them early on. I even got caught out re-sharing something to a friend that I had to retract because it caught me out. That shit's GOOD to happen to me, it reminded me to check shit before I go sharing and not to believe literally everything I see on the internet. I've been laughing at myself for it ever since. But I think the negative reaction of others comes from an inability to laugh at themselves for getting got.
This is probably partially incoherent or disjointed as a thought, I'm just about to have a nap and half asleep already.
That's literally just a self-perpetuating culture of bullying.
And if you don't learn to self-roast and go along with it? You get roasted even harder until you do.
And what about our ND userbase, who will never quite "get" your islands toxic social dynamics? Death to the first world.
the whole "hahaha aren't you triggered by me" thing is lame, i never thought it was funny but also wasn't upset by it...
except i have to be honest, they did get me with the switch post, it did genuinely annoy me to see the most prolific prankster on hexbear post something so blatently fake and see a bunch of people responding as if it was serious. so i guess it was good work exposing how strangely credulous some of hexbear is.
the sad thing is that was probably the only melina post that could have been funny, the writing and the idea was actually good. only i had soured on the bit already.
rip to a real one, maybe you can be funny with your next account if you simply enjoy your trolls without also doing the "lol triggered much" thing.
I dunno I think the Nintendo post, and really most of Melina's posts, exhibited how hexbears ND usersegment is perceived and treated by a large part of the userbase.
Many ND people have trouble parsing irony and sarcasm. They can also probably relate to struggling socially, doing something silly like buying a switch because of a misunderstanding and then getting irrationally angry about it. The people responding genuinely to that post mainly seemed to be people who sympathised with the experience and who offered coping methods and strategies for future use.
The amount of people that mocked users for engaging genuinely and kindly with someone, was honestly very disappointing to me, though not surprising.except i have to be honest, they did get me with the switch post, it did genuinely annoy me to see the most prolific prankster on hexbear post something so blatently fake and see a bunch of people responding as if it was serious. so i guess it was good work exposing how strangely credulous some of hexbear is.
There has always been a strain in HexBear that has pushed for more sincere posting and to not be terminally online posters.
we lost that fight to the federation return to
bloc but yes, a part of this site's culture that i think really started to come together in the god forsaken discord pre chapo dot chat was the genuine comradely care and concern for others in a very small pool. we've certainly made the pool much bigger but something has been lost in our zeal for dunking and participating in the marketplace of ideas and while we've always had shitfits the vibes are just so much more hostile because of it.
That makes two high profile posters banned after being blocked by me. Watch yourselves
Respect to Melina for having a King Gizz pfp tho.
So I need to annoy you to escape from this prison and be thrown out into nature? So be it
I don't wanna rain on your high profile poster block parade but Ulysses was never banned - he literally just decided to go off grid and even made a post announcing this.
Do you think your power may work in reverse - i.e. can you block me so I become a 'high-profile poster'?? I would like to be the top dog around here next...
Oh did they finally get banned? Good. They were a decent poster but they would go way way too fucking hard on people like way disproportionate for the interactions a lot, I was like yo relax more than once
Ulysses left on his own to go touch grass and also he was based 99% of the time anyway
They just got banned? Wow. I didn’t know that. You are telling me now for the first time. They made some amazing posts. What else can you say. Whether you agreed or not, they were an amazing poster who led an amazing posting career. I am actually sad to hear that. I am sad to hear that.
It's incredibly funny and weird that these people keep getting banned and coming back. Melina has had so many different accounts since the Chapo chat days. There's also a couple of other users that have done the same thing. Ongoing war between the mods, these users and regular users.
bmf is actually a net gain though, one could almsot compare them to the sun if privatized
Wait who was Melina during the Chapo Chat days? Were they BMF? BasedBall?
got her
happy to help, friend
